Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 216714 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Mark

Salem, OR

#81962 Mar 20, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Darwin's books were banned by Hitler & Co. Fact.
Found a pretty cool article on this subject -

http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2010/0...

"In Ian Kershaw's biography of Hitler, Professor Kershaw (who has no axe to grind on this topic, so far as I know) repeatedly attributes a belief or world view which he terms 'Social Darwinism' to the National Socialist leader".

"I believe that this ban (mention of which, I now gather, is a stock-in-trade Darwinist response to the allegation that the Nazis were influenced and inspired by evolutionary theory) was not caused by any NSDAP objection to the theory of evolution, but may have more to do with Hitler's specific disagreement with Haeckel's supporters and disciples, the Monists, who were very far from being Nazis.

So far as I know, the Monist League, which was made up of Haeckel's disciples, was shut down in 1933 by the Nazis, so publications linked with it would have been banned at the same time. Richard Weikart, in his book exploring the links between Darwinism and National Socialist ideology ('From Darwin to Hitler' p.70) notes:’The Nazi suppression of the Monist League was not a function of a fundamental change in the Monist League's orientation during the Weimar period, as [Daniel] Gasman has argued, but rather reflected significant differences between Haeckel and Hitler. Haeckel and the Monist League promoted many social reforms that were anathema to Hitler, such as homosexual rights, feminism, and pacifism.’

So he was at odd's with Haeckel(the promoter of the false concept of fish to human evolution occuring during pregnancy)Not Darwin.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#81963 Mar 20, 2013
Mark wrote:
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I worked over Evo pretty hard with my comments on cell structure, internal code, language convention, data size, lack of any write heads, parallelism (see Denton, where it was found that completely unrelated genes control unrelated appendages but they are perfectly identical!) and Cricks (DNA's co-discoverer) ultimate answer to it all; it was flown here in space ships!(See his book "Panasperma"), kindda makes it all Science-fiction to me.
Look into it from a design standpoint - Intelligence operating on chemicals. You are asking me to "believe" that chemicals self-organized, created a mechanism and language convention, plus kept hopping along creating species and evolving and adapting to water, air, sun, light and dark, and have sex mates in a mindless and random self-directed manner? Life is beautiful! People are beautiful creatures! Windows 3 did not become W7 by operating 50 mil years. This works if one is ignorant of how the cell works, and mindlessly accepted the teachers lectures and pretty pictures in the textbooks. Evo's say time will do all of this, that's an exceptional faith!
this is what the evidence points to.

if you had any evidence of any other theory, you would have produced it by now.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#81964 Mar 20, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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So you ask people to provide scientific evidence...and then reject it because it's scientific evidence?...quite interesting.
No, she's pointing out your hypocrisy...again.

is n't that, like, the 20th person that has pointed it out to you? have you taken the hint yet?
Mark

Salem, OR

#81965 Mar 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes, your meaning was very clear. you stated this was apicture of the center of the universe. it is not.
You are right, that was what I was verbally told, when I asked for the doc, I saw that the story was wrong, my apologies. An honest error is not a lie however.

M

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#81966 Mar 20, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Your claim is that there is an effect without a cause.
You claim that things pop out of nothing...like pink elephants. Have you told this to your psychiatrist?
Now you are dishonestly making assertions for people again.

Answer the question if you dare, how does water turn into ice when launched into space?

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#81967 Mar 20, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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So you ask people to provide scientific evidence...and then reject it because it's scientific evidence?...quite interesting.
When you denounce the scientific evidence, you state that you disagree with it, thus it is lying to use that same evidence to support your assertions. if you would be honest, then you would not do that.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#81968 Mar 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>No, she's pointing out your hypocrisy...again.
is n't that, like, the 20th person that has pointed it out to you? have you taken the hint yet?
There 's really no hinting about it...your obvious the hypocrites.lol

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#81969 Mar 20, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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There 's really no hinting about it...your obvious the hypocrites.lol
in what way? You just tried to use a science you said is bunk to prove your point. that is being a hyupocrit, as well as stupid.

what have i said that is hypocritical at all?

now you add another lie to your list of transgressions. why are religious cult members so immoral?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#81970 Mar 20, 2013
Mark wrote:
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You are right, that was what I was verbally told, when I asked for the doc, I saw that the story was wrong, my apologies. An honest error is not a lie however.
M
the fact that you believed it at all shows you are really not up for this level of discussion.

what other things have you posted that you were told but are obvious falsehoods? the grand canyon story for one...

why should anyone listen to anything you say at all?

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#81971 Mar 20, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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When you denounce the scientific evidence, you state that you disagree with it, thus it is lying to use that same evidence to support your assertions. if you would be honest, then you would not do that.
I do not denounce scientific evidence...I question it...which is true science. You take it on authoritative faith, which is a bias to the very objectivity which you claim.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#81972 Mar 20, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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There 's really no hinting about it...your obvious the hypocrites.lol
... and there you go, projecting because you were exposed as a dishonest, lying, hypocrite. Backed into a corner, well, your kind are too predictable now.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#81973 Mar 20, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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I do not denounce scientific evidence...I question it...which is true science. You take it on authoritative faith, which is a bias to the very objectivity which you claim.
No, you denounced it.
Mark

Salem, OR

#81974 Mar 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>this is what the evidence points to.
if you had any evidence of any other theory, you would have produced it by now.
I will let Him speak for Himself;

"For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse".

Design speaks of a designer, when I look at a helicopter, I see function and beauty. But I know how hard that engineering group and chief pilot worked to create the machine I have, how many years they spent perfecting and redesigning to make is functional and safe, and the later models that came along to build a great company. The end result always brings good thoughts to me about them.

Thats the way I see God in creation. In Alaska, I toiled and strained against the hash elements and the toll it takes on people at times, it was all fate, human effort and physics to me.
When I learned that this was only an image of the "very good" earth that was in the beginning, I got it. We live in a post-flood world that was destroyed as a result of a society that had lost all morals and God reset the earth into it's final stage. The evidence is everywhere, when I changed my paradigm it all fit.

God is a good and just guy,- people are the problem.

M
Mark

Salem, OR

#81975 Mar 20, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>the fact that you believed it at all shows you are really not up for this level of discussion.
what other things have you posted that you were told but are obvious falsehoods? the grand canyon story for one...
why should anyone listen to anything you say at all?
I knew that was coming! Sorry, I am only human. Thats why I need Christ, to make up for my failures on that "Day". He paid it all!

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#81976 Mar 20, 2013
Mark wrote:
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I will let Him speak for Himself;
"For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse".
Design speaks of a designer, when I look at a helicopter, I see function and beauty. But I know how hard that engineering group and chief pilot worked to create the machine I have, how many years they spent perfecting and redesigning to make is functional and safe, and the later models that came along to build a great company. The end result always brings good thoughts to me about them.
Thats the way I see God in creation. In Alaska, I toiled and strained against the hash elements and the toll it takes on people at times, it was all fate, human effort and physics to me.
When I learned that this was only an image of the "very good" earth that was in the beginning, I got it. We live in a post-flood world that was destroyed as a result of a society that had lost all morals and God reset the earth into it's final stage. The evidence is everywhere, when I changed my paradigm it all fit.
God is a good and just guy,- people are the problem.
M
No, you let some human speak for a god, not very bright, are you?
Mark

Salem, OR

#81977 Mar 20, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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No, you let some human speak for a god, not very bright, are you?
Actually Jesus authorized this guy to say this. I wouldn't argue with a guy that could empty hospitals like Paul could to get folks attn.. He was directly ordained by God to speak and write to the non-Jews. Only one with authorizaion from God can heal like that.

This God is the one who is so crazy in love with us that he gave up the God-son to death to prove it. He made us so wonderful that when he got done he through away the mold! We are not star stuff in a mindless eternity, time is finite and has boundries - event horizons, a start and finish. We are all special and have a God given will to choose, He allowed us that freedom to show him so.
Mark

Salem, OR

#81978 Mar 20, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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No, you let some human speak for a god, not very bright, are you?
And your right, I am not that bright, but I know my God watches over me!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#81979 Mar 20, 2013
Mark wrote:
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I knew that was coming! Sorry, I am only human. Thats why I need Christ, to make up for my failures on that "Day". He paid it all!
some education, reason and rationality would serve you better.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#81980 Mar 20, 2013
Mark wrote:
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I will let Him speak for Himself;
"For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse".
Design speaks of a designer, when I look at a helicopter, I see function and beauty. But I know how hard that engineering group and chief pilot worked to create the machine I have, how many years they spent perfecting and redesigning to make is functional and safe, and the later models that came along to build a great company. The end result always brings good thoughts to me about them.
Thats the way I see God in creation. In Alaska, I toiled and strained against the hash elements and the toll it takes on people at times, it was all fate, human effort and physics to me.
When I learned that this was only an image of the "very good" earth that was in the beginning, I got it. We live in a post-flood world that was destroyed as a result of a society that had lost all morals and God reset the earth into it's final stage. The evidence is everywhere, when I changed my paradigm it all fit.
God is a good and just guy,- people are the problem.
M
thought you weren't going to thump your bible?

guess the lying never stopped, huh?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#81981 Mar 20, 2013
Mark wrote:
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And your right, I am not that bright, but I know my God watches over me!
the god of the bible your cult believes in has been proven to be a lie.

your cult lied to you.

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