Evolution vs. Creation

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#81537 Mar 18, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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No one has attempted to unify all the branches of hard science and atheists like you get in the way of progression.
Wrong answer.

Unification of the sciences should not be necessary for a hypothesis of ID. And of course a hypothesis is the an early step in the formation of a theory.

But you probably do not know what either one is.

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#81538 Mar 18, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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That's why there is no progress in the first place, because you atheists are a threat.
Right.

I didn't do my homework and it is all Jimmy's fault!

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#81539 Mar 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
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you don't even know how to ask a proper question...
Either you don't understand the theory of evolution or you don't know how to respond well when confronted with a problem in the theory without personal attacks. What contribution do you have for being in the Darwinian cult? lol

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Minnesota's North Coast

#81540 Mar 18, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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That's why there is no progress in the first place, because you atheists are a threat.
when in fact, it is the religious cult members that continually block scientific study and teaching.

please give some specific examples of atheists blocking any scientific studies in any field...

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#81541 Mar 18, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Either you don't understand the theory of evolution or you don't know how to respond well when confronted with a problem in the theory without personal attacks. What contribution do you have for being in the Darwinian cult? lol
What problem was I confronted with? you asked a question with no frame of reference.

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#81542 Mar 18, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Wrong answer.
Unification of the sciences should not be necessary for a hypothesis of ID. And of course a hypothesis is the an early step in the formation of a theory.
But you probably do not know what either one is.
How would you hypothesize evidence for intelligence for everything that exists when intelligence are exhibited in different ways that we now identify as different branches of science?

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#81543 Mar 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>What problem was I confronted with? you asked a question with no frame of reference.
You are dodging my question. You have nothing to offer at this point.
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Bellevue, WA

#81544 Mar 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>then why is there not even a hypothesis of ID?
This thread would be a good place to present one. Oh wait, thare are how many regular readers here? ;)

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#81545 Mar 18, 2013
Cybele wrote:
Anyone knows why fish of different species evolve differently? Is this really evolution in action?
For example the Pacific leaping blenny has evolved into having complex social life out of water. Their way of finding a mate made them less dependent on water. Classic example of evolution.
But then I find another species, the electric fish mormyrids found in Africa that will only mate with those that produce the same electric signals and not with those that have different communication patterns. Researchers think that they are diverging into separate species. How so?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/06/...
did you miss this Woody?

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#81546 Mar 18, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Right.
I didn't do my homework and it is all Jimmy's fault!
No I know you're just doing your job and I am a threat to you. lol

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#81547 Mar 18, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>This thread would be a good place to present one. Oh wait, thare are how many regular readers here? ;)
First we have to define God.

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#81548 Mar 18, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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did you miss this Woody?
No.

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Minnesota's North Coast

#81549 Mar 18, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>This thread would be a good place to present one. Oh wait, thare are how many regular readers here? ;)
yes, it would be, wouldn't it? why has no proponent of ID ever put up even a hypothesis for ID? could it be that there isn't even enough evidence for it to even make hypothesis?

yes, that would be why.

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Minnesota's North Coast

#81550 Mar 18, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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First we have to define God.
Myth...there that part is done. where's the hypothesis?
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Bellevue, WA

#81551 Mar 18, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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First we have to define God.
Wouldn't we say God is the one that brought the universe into existence?

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Minnesota's North Coast

#81552 Mar 18, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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You are dodging my question. You have nothing to offer at this point.
No, i asked you to clarify the question. putting up some post where i asked "why not" gives me no frame of reference to the the question. if it had been on the same page or a recent post, it could be acceptable, but it wasn't.

as i said, you do not even know how to ask a proper question. no wonder you don't know shit about your own world.

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#81553 Mar 18, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>No.
So which fish are you? lol

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#81554 Mar 18, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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How would you hypothesize evidence for intelligence for everything that exists when intelligence are exhibited in different ways that we now identify as different branches of science?
Of course there are ways to try to find evidence. Unfortunately for the IDists they have been wrong every time they made a solid claim in the past.

For example the concept of "irreducible complexity" used to be the battle cry of the IDiots. Unfortunately for them they always chose problems that were on the cutting edge of research.

One guess as to what happens in research.

And of course it is not up to me to provide the ID people with a testable hypothesis. It is up to them.

The first step in science is observation. Evidence does not become evidence until people observe it and think about it. They need to observe nature and to think of what they observe. When evidence is observed enough the testing is very often suggested by the evidence itself.

The problem with this is that if you are wrong you may not ever find any evidence that supports your belief.

Hmm, and which side has a noticeable lack of evidence?

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#81555 Mar 18, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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No I know you're just doing your job and I am a threat to you. lol
Please, don't go the Jimbo route.

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#81556 Mar 18, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Wouldn't we say God is the one that brought the universe into existence?
Not without evidence. If you think that something as complex as the universe needs a creator then doesn't the even more complex creator need a creator and so on up the line? If you cut off the line at your god why not cut it off at the point that we have evidence of. Cut off creation at the universe. For all we know as long as time has existed the universe has existed.

And even if we say there is a god that still has nothing to do with evolution. Evolution works just fine in a universe with a god. It works just fine in a universe without a god.

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