Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 219597 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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anonymous

Barberton, OH

#80857 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>there is no evidence at all of your god. end of existensial discussion.
go back to your child porn sites, you pervert...
You're boring me. You behave like an overweight teenager who talks trash because all his fellow couch potato gamers do. When you experience real life, you may have something to say, but that won't happen as long as your reality is defined by bitmap trophies.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80858 Mar 14, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
You're boring me. You behave like an overweight teenager who talks trash because all his fellow couch potato gamers do. When you experience real life, you may have something to say, but that won't happen as long as your reality is defined by bitmap trophies.
if I'm boring you, i expect this will be the last time you address me.

goodbye child molesting pervert...
HOG_ Hand of God

Kingston, Jamaica

#80860 Mar 14, 2013
Spirituality is the first science:
Watch the point 6:20-7:50
HOG_ Hand of God

Kingston, Jamaica

#80861 Mar 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Technically speaking apes did become men. Humans *are* apes.
Now, why am I not surprised you would say something like that?

Do they trust you to cross the street by yourself?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80862 Mar 14, 2013
HOG_ Hand of God wrote:
Spirituality is the first science:
Watch the point 6:20-7:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =EeUrU-UA858XX
how can an unprovable concept be a science?
HOG_ Hand of God

Kingston, Jamaica

#80863 Mar 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't reject the science. You claimed science that doesn't support your claims actually does support your claims. Even though that the guys actually involved in the research disagree with you and you don't care about evidence because evidence doesn't matter to you as your alternative to reality is invisible Jewish magic.
The only thing you're good at is demonstrating your own ignorance and hypocrisy.
We all know that evidence proves nothing;evidence only supports.

Evidence is as good as what you can make of it. The same piece of evidence used to argue for a thing, is the same piece of evidence used to argue against that thing.

We dont have to understand something to control it; so our best descriptions may be nothing more than a 'working knowledge', and not the truth.

Its interesting that you speak of the hypocrisy and ignorance of others?

You, have effectively demonstrated your unwillingness or otherwise utter failure to apply your concepts consistently in times past; you and that IANS [email protected] I wonder if lightening has struck him yet.

You would readily accept that logic is a valid means of discovering aspects of the natural world; yet when logic leads people to believe in God or an Almighty, you got issues.

Its strange how reasoning and logic only seems to work 'your' way.
HOG_ Hand of God

Kingston, Jamaica

#80864 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>how can an unprovable concept be a science?
What concept is that?

Identify that unprovable concept.

The study of a concept in itself can be a science; proof of anything is always debatable and is hence another question.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80865 Mar 14, 2013
HOG_ Hand of God wrote:
<quoted text>
We all know that evidence proves nothing;evidence only supports.
Evidence is as good as what you can make of it. The same piece of evidence used to argue for a thing, is the same piece of evidence used to argue against that thing.
We dont have to understand something to control it; so our best descriptions may be nothing more than a 'working knowledge', and not the truth.
Its interesting that you speak of the hypocrisy and ignorance of others?
You, have effectively demonstrated your unwillingness or otherwise utter failure to apply your concepts consistently in times past; you and that IANS [email protected] I wonder if lightening has struck him yet.
You would readily accept that logic is a valid means of discovering aspects of the natural world; yet when logic leads people to believe in God or an Almighty, you got issues.
Its strange how reasoning and logic only seems to work 'your' way.
What logic would lead people to vbelieve in some god myth that has no evidence of being real, or in the case of most people, a god myth that has been proven false?

there is no such logic as that.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80866 Mar 14, 2013
HOG_ Hand of God wrote:
<quoted text>
What concept is that?
Identify that unprovable concept.
The study of a concept in itself can be a science; proof of anything is always debatable and is hence another question.
Spirituality. pure hokum.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#80867 Mar 14, 2013
HOG, first I would like to know what you believe and why. I believe that the theory of evolution is very accurate.

Yes, evidence can cut both ways. The problem for creationists is that it is very hard if not impossible to argue that the evidence supports creationism in any way at all.

My speciality is geology. Creationists have no explanation for the fossil record. Or perhaps I should say that any explanation they try to make has been easily debunked to date.

So once again, what do you believe and why? How old do you think the Earth is? Are you a YEC or an OEC?
bohart

White Pine, TN

#80868 Mar 14, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
HOG, first I would like to know what you believe and why. I believe that the theory of evolution is very accurate.
Yes, evidence can cut both ways. The problem for creationists is that it is very hard if not impossible to argue that the evidence supports creationism in any way at all.
My speciality is geology. Creationists have no explanation for the fossil record. Or perhaps I should say that any explanation they try to make has been easily debunked to date.
So once again, what do you believe and why? How old do you think the Earth is? Are you a YEC or an OEC?
"Fossils are the most obvious and serious objections which can be urged against the theory of evolution"

Charles Darwin, Origin of the species.

So according to the originator of your religion , the thing YOU hang your hat on is it's most serious objection.

what a joke you are.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80869 Mar 14, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
"Fossils are the most obvious and serious objections which can be urged against the theory of evolution"
Charles Darwin, Origin of the species.
So according to the originator of your religion , the thing YOU hang your hat on is it's most serious objection.
what a joke you are.
what's the problem with fossiles?

“Not afraid to stand alone.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 09

Flat Lick Ky.

#80870 Mar 14, 2013
I think this post explains fossils best.

Quote - Evolution is simply mild adaption over a large amount of time. ALL fossils are "transitional" fossils. It amazes me that you are able to post a thread such as this, online, while denying the very mentality that made the internet possible. Sir, the irony isn't lost on me.- End Quote.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/barbourville-...
Mark

United States

#80871 Mar 14, 2013
PROFESSOR X wrote:
Atheistic Scientists were Humiliated As Their Junk DNA Evolution Paradigm recently Collapsed
Anti-theistic scientists, Ken Miller, Ayala, Dawkins, Collins, Falk and other junk DNA proponents made failed observations about DNA, such that their Darwinian evolution paradigm has collapsed. Not that long ago, junk DNA was being defended as an important element of the Darwinian evolution paradigm ... The question now seems to be whether Ayala, Dawkins, Collins, Falk and other junk DNA proponents will continue to defend junk DNA, whatever they call it?- Rob Crowther,PhD
Evolutionary Biologist Richard Sternberg discusses modern genomics and the collapse of evolutionists junk DNA theory.
http://www.cross.tv/66770
Doubt Atheism & Question Darwinism
http://www.evolutionfacts.blogspot.com
.
We shouldn't diss on Ayala so badly, he advanced the concept of genetic "load" that due to mutations no species, especially humans, could survive more than 10,000 years... Hmmmm, he kinda stepped on his own belief's, or, was he hiding the truth in the data tables to get published? Seen that before. As all living organisms use the same triplicate code with a lauguage convention was an accident, created by accidents! Genetic paralellism put the the last nail in the evolutionaly coffin anyway. Thats where Denton showed that the right and left appendages is living things are comtrolled by unrelated genes. Their argument is they will find the answer someday, evolutionists always have "faith" in impossible discoveries or lots of time providing the answers or changes needed.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#80872 Mar 14, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
"Fossils are the most obvious and serious objections which can be urged against the theory of evolution"
Charles Darwin, Origin of the species.
So according to the originator of your religion , the thing YOU hang your hat on is it's most serious objection.
what a joke you are.
You are quote mining at best, that means you are lying.

Come on, even an idiot like you should be able to do better than that.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#80873 Mar 14, 2013
HOG_ Hand of God wrote:
<quoted text>
Now, why am I not surprised you would say something like that?
Do they trust you to cross the street by yourself?
The Dude, of course, speaks the truth....it has been proven...keep up.
Mark

United States

#80874 Mar 14, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
HOG, first I would like to know what you believe and why. I believe that the theory of evolution is very accurate.
Yes, evidence can cut both ways. The problem for creationists is that it is very hard if not impossible to argue that the evidence supports creationism in any way at all.
My speciality is geology. Creationists have no explanation for the fossil record. Or perhaps I should say that any explanation they try to make has been easily debunked to date.
So once again, what do you believe and why? How old do you think the Earth is? Are you a YEC or an OEC?
After working all over the earth for 30+ years in underground mining, and touching some of the largest fossil deposits in the world, what I see is a world that was created out of water with water,(see the fossilless pre-cambrian formations in the central Grand Canyon, you have to float to it, I have been there) and secondly destroyed by water leaving fossil deposits and death (unlike the pre-cam because God made the earth first without death) and then eroded by uniform means until today. The Great unnconformity proves it. Naturally sea creatures would be buried first. Reptiles sink when they drown, mammals bloat and float, so hence a progression of fossil deposition in text book fossil deposition drawings. An exception in the Lewis range in Montana where the sea life is on the top and Dinos and debris is on the bottom. The evolutionists have been trying to divise a way to flip that range for years but found it better to remove it from the text books. How about the Redwood trees in Antarctica 10ft at the butt or mega flora and fruit trees found in Siberia? This evidence points to the fact that this world was mightly different once in the past.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#80875 Mar 14, 2013
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>
After working all over the earth for 30+ years in underground mining, and touching some of the largest fossil deposits in the world, what I see is a world that was created out of water with water,(see the fossilless pre-cambrian formations in the central Grand Canyon, you have to float to it, I have been there) and secondly destroyed by water leaving fossil deposits and death (unlike the pre-cam because God made the earth first without death) and then eroded by uniform means until today. The Great unnconformity proves it. Naturally sea creatures would be buried first. Reptiles sink when they drown, mammals bloat and float, so hence a progression of fossil deposition in text book fossil deposition drawings. An exception in the Lewis range in Montana where the sea life is on the top and Dinos and debris is on the bottom. The evolutionists have been trying to divise a way to flip that range for years but found it better to remove it from the text books. How about the Redwood trees in Antarctica 10ft at the butt or mega flora and fruit trees found in Siberia? This evidence points to the fact that this world was mightly different once in the past.
What a lying sack of shit.

Please no fairy tales. Links to articles are okay, but there are idiots here who will believe any lie that is told against evolution.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#80876 Mar 15, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
if this is so true...why do lizards have evolutionary legs and the evolution of the snake had legs in the past but now has none?
Because the one born without legs survived better to reproduce.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#80877 Mar 15, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Are you saying I'm a Yahtzee?! awww...and I didn't get you anything...
oh wait...maybe we're not done yet...
can i be a full house? chance? four threes in the three slot at least?
Chance is the loser's points.:P

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