Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 221395 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“what we think we become”

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Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#80797 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>you lost rational people at the "let's pretend god" part...
whatever. I don't care. I bet you couldn't even write a simple HTML code to change your font. meh

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Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#80798 Mar 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Like Highlander!
If only. That would have been a great way for that idiot Benny to go, eh?
They'd have a hell of a time replacing all that stained glass, though.

“point instant”

Since: Jun 12

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#80799 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>No, you really have a hard time with very, very simple concepts, don't you?
i am asking you, the one who claims to know about 'truth' to tell me the 'truth' about gravity...
please, dear, do try to keep up. i fear all of this talk is going right over your pretty little head...
if your lacking in the understanding of the principles of gravity, I suggest you google it.

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#80800 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, is that an ignorant statement. did you ever get past the third grade?
sexual reproduction adds huge amounts of information to the gene pool, allowing for greater evolution.
you will notice that in most swpecies, the females (the ones that lay and protect the eggs, are comouflaged while the males are bright to attract the females to pass their genes on. beyond this brief introduction into the world of reproduction, there are many examples of camouflage used where thter are many predators,and bright colors usede where there are fewer for that species.
why do you continually try to debunk things you clearly have not the most basic understanding of?
As to the bright colours, there are two other categories: "warning" colours, such as are exhibited by many toxic/venomous species; and imitations of the same by innocuous species.

Think coral snakes and king snakes.

Fascinatin' stuff.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80801 Mar 14, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
if your lacking in the understanding of the principles of gravity, I suggest you google it.
i can see why you'd run from the question...

wouldn't it be more honest to say you were wrong about your "truth" statement?

or you can keep doging the question about the 'truth' of gravity...

i really did warn you about making a fool of yourself....don't say i didn't...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80802 Mar 14, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>As to the bright colours, there are two other categories: "warning" colours, such as are exhibited by many toxic/venomous species; and imitations of the same by innocuous species.
Think coral snakes and king snakes.
Fascinatin' stuff.
but, apparantly, it makes no sense to xxxooxxx....

just the rest of the planet.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#80803 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>What about cuttlefish and octopuses?
Ah, but they aren't particularly "choosing" still, considering it is the result of instinctual behavior, that removes the choice. They cannot one day say "I want to be purple" and become purple the entire day, there has to be an event and environmental stimulation for them to result in such a color. ;)

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#80804 Mar 14, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>As to the bright colours, there are two other categories: "warning" colours, such as are exhibited by many toxic/venomous species; and imitations of the same by innocuous species.
Think coral snakes and king snakes.
Fascinatin' stuff.
Yet there are snakes just as colorful, but are not poisonous at all.

Mimicking is an assumption with no proof.



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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#80805 Mar 14, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay so here's an analogy. Let's pretend God was a computer programmer and he created the genetic code for all living things.
He writes a program 1 and produces an output 1
He writes a program 2 and produces an output 2
And so on...
If you know the genetic code, it is represented with codes A C T G arranged in different sequence, that's the idea of permutation.
Here's and example of Program:
#NoEnv
StringCaseSense On
......
Nice linguine, but it is irrelevant to genetics. Not to mention that the permutations are rigid in that particular script, not dynamic, and thus making the entire thing completely different than DNA. It also doesn't respond to input, nor changes in the environment, something that coders have been working to actually accomplish for a great many years, and the only real reason I want to develop a video game using a true AI system, ironically. The best analogy to evolution is actually a classic game of dice, called Yahtzee. You roll the dice, keeping the ones you, the ones the benefit you, then on the next generation you reroll the other dice, and on ... and on ... however, with evolution the round never ends, so you ultimately get a Yahtzee.
John777

London, KY

#80806 Mar 14, 2013
If evolution is true? Why did it stop. How come evolution is not happening today. How come there are still not apes turning into men and walking around with us now? Where are these half human half monkey species at today? I believe God created the world and created the "old" stuff in it, he did create time as we know it. Testing that says something is millions of years old can be true and God could have created it a s well to be old when he made it. Was not meant for our human minds to understand in this life.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#80807 Mar 14, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
Asexual reproduction would be the most logical way to go in terms of evolutionary survival. so why wouldn't all species develop along these lines?
And why would some species develop camouflage to avoid predators, while others species exhibit bright colors that would attract predators?
Evolutionary survival claims make no since at all.
That's because you haven't learned anything about it. Asexual reproduction severely limits genetic variation as opposed to sexual reproduction, making the species much more prone to extinction. Variation also answers your second query, although you are simplifying it to the extreme.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#80808 Mar 14, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
sexual reproduction adds huge amounts of information to the gene pool, allowing for greater evolution.
evolution could just as well evolved the information into one, as it could have two distinct entities...so you argument is lame.
Your second sentence is lame because it hardly even passes as English.

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#80809 Mar 14, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice linguine, but it is irrelevant to genetics. Not to mention that the permutations are rigid in that particular script, not dynamic, and thus making the entire thing completely different than DNA. It also doesn't respond to input, nor changes in the environment, something that coders have been working to actually accomplish for a great many years, and the only real reason I want to develop a video game using a true AI system, ironically. The best analogy to evolution is actually a classic game of dice, called Yahtzee. You roll the dice, keeping the ones you, the ones the benefit you, then on the next generation you reroll the other dice, and on ... and on ... however, with evolution the round never ends, so you ultimately get a Yahtzee.
if this is so true...why do lizards have evolutionary legs and the evolution of the snake had legs in the past but now has none?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#80810 Mar 14, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Truth - Merriam-Webster Dictionary
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/truth
a (1): the state of being the case : fact (2): the body of real things, events, and facts : actuality...
The Dude wrote:
"truth is meaningless in science"...finally something that we can agree on.
Of course you missed out the inconvenient bits, like: b : sincerity in action, character, and utterance

As a promoter of ignorance and anti-science you are insincere. Therefore my original definition was correct.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#80811 Mar 14, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
just because your comprehension is lacking, only means that it makes no since to you, not everybody.
Go boom. Irony meter duz it.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80812 Mar 14, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet there are snakes just as colorful, but are not poisonous at all.
Mimicking is an assumption with no proof.
and why do they mimic those deadly snakes?

why do other butterflies mimic the monarch?

so much fun to be had!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80813 Mar 14, 2013
John777 wrote:
If evolution is true? Why did it stop. How come evolution is not happening today. How come there are still not apes turning into men and walking around with us now? Where are these half human half monkey species at today? I believe God created the world and created the "old" stuff in it, he did create time as we know it. Testing that says something is millions of years old can be true and God could have created it a s well to be old when he made it. Was not meant for our human minds to understand in this life.
it is happeneing today. apes didnot turn into men. hominids and apes branched off a common ancestor.

perhaps you should try to undertand at least the very basics of an idea before you attempt to debunk it, lest you look like a bigger fool.

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#80814 Mar 14, 2013
The evolution of the snake( or serpent) is one of apparent devolution.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80815 Mar 14, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice linguine, but it is irrelevant to genetics. Not to mention that the permutations are rigid in that particular script, not dynamic, and thus making the entire thing completely different than DNA. It also doesn't respond to input, nor changes in the environment, something that coders have been working to actually accomplish for a great many years, and the only real reason I want to develop a video game using a true AI system, ironically. The best analogy to evolution is actually a classic game of dice, called Yahtzee. You roll the dice, keeping the ones you, the ones the benefit you, then on the next generation you reroll the other dice, and on ... and on ... however, with evolution the round never ends, so you ultimately get a Yahtzee.
Are you saying I'm a Yahtzee?! awww...and I didn't get you anything...

oh wait...maybe we're not done yet...

can i be a full house? chance? four threes in the three slot at least?

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Since: Jun 12

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#80816 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>and why do they mimic those deadly snakes?
why do other butterflies mimic the monarch?
so much fun to be had!
another assumption to support your evolutionary theory.

like I said, just an assumption with no actual proof.

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