Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 223358 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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anonymous

Barberton, OH

#80842 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i have no master. i am a free human.
Irrelevant. You're only free to serve your master.

Please do continue. I'd love a good existential monologue to demonstrate how you cannot possibly be free if you are anything short of God hisself!

If you ARE God, and you exist within your own creation, you're asking for a divide-by-zero overflow error to happen within you or your own creation.

No matter how brilliant a person you think you are, you're part of this ego deathtrap if you're really here to win this debate. You die by foolishly declaring yourself god, or you die "bursting your hot heartís shell" upon that stupid white whale.

Some people know this and take advantage of it. Others just are along for the ride....but you still serve your master!
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#80843 Mar 14, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
you seem to have a problem with Reversible Evolution.
No, as it's not devolution. Devolution is a fundie wet dream.
xxxooxxx wrote:
it's based on the law of gravity.oh...I think you said you didn't believe in gravity...my bad.
Correct. Belief is superfluous when one has evidence. I accept gravity and evolution due to evidence. Evidence is meaningless to you.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#80844 Mar 14, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
wow you ask me to show scienctific evidence...then reject your scienctific evidence on grounds Theology...lol
you take the cake...and the banana pudding too.
I didn't reject the science. You claimed science that doesn't support your claims actually does support your claims. Even though that the guys actually involved in the research disagree with you and you don't care about evidence because evidence doesn't matter to you as your alternative to reality is invisible Jewish magic.

The only thing you're good at is demonstrating your own ignorance and hypocrisy.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#80845 Mar 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Also there are currently 7 billion different ways to make a human, but only one way to spell "Hello" in English. Your "permutation" model simply does not apply to DNA.
Didn't I tell you that our DNA is coded with A C T G

DNA sequence: ACTG CTGA TTCG ACCG etc....

I was trying to give an example of permutation and how it can be created by writing a script or a program. Don't be stupid. If you can't understand the analogy, that's not my problem.

“Cruisin' In Stereo”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#80846 Mar 14, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Evolution is not reversible. It is always a "forward" change.
Cars are not reversible cause they're always going forward in time...duh

The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#80847 Mar 14, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>Irrelevant. You're only free to serve your master.
Please do continue. I'd love a good existential monologue to demonstrate how you cannot possibly be free if you are anything short of God hisself!
If you ARE God, and you exist within your own creation, you're asking for a divide-by-zero overflow error to happen within you or your own creation.
No matter how brilliant a person you think you are, you're part of this ego deathtrap if you're really here to win this debate. You die by foolishly declaring yourself god, or you die "bursting your hot heartís shell" upon that stupid white whale.
Some people know this and take advantage of it. Others just are along for the ride....but you still serve your master!
Actually it's you fundies who declare yourselves God as you like to keep telling it what to do.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#80848 Mar 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
So feel free to believe in massive world-wide conspiracies if you like, and we'll lump you in with the moon-landing deniers and flat-Earthers.
what conspiracies? Are you being a dumbass who couldn't think of any other argument than call people flat-earthers? lol lame.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80849 Mar 14, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>Irrelevant. You're only free to serve your master.
Please do continue. I'd love a good existential monologue to demonstrate how you cannot possibly be free if you are anything short of God hisself!
If you ARE God, and you exist within your own creation, you're asking for a divide-by-zero overflow error to happen within you or your own creation.
No matter how brilliant a person you think you are, you're part of this ego deathtrap if you're really here to win this debate. You die by foolishly declaring yourself god, or you die "bursting your hot heartís shell" upon that stupid white whale.
Some people know this and take advantage of it. Others just are along for the ride....but you still serve your master!
there is no evidence at all of your god. end of existensial discussion.

go back to your child porn sites, you pervert...

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#80850 Mar 14, 2013
see yah all in hell

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80851 Mar 14, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
...why must I continually keep you guys updated on your own science.
"Genetic Study of House Dust Mites Demonstrates Reversible Evolution"
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/03/...
is this really reverse evolution? what trait did they revert to? seems they picked up on an entirely new habitat and food source. not reverse at all, very forward...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80852 Mar 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Except it doesn't only work like that. There are also additions, subtractions, simple changes, changes that take place in redundant sections of DNA, stable areas of genes, unstable areas, duplications. Your permutation model is far too simplistic. To me it looks more like what you'd find in asexually reproducing clones, but once variation and the usual mechanisms for evolution come back in the model's shot to hell.
<quoted text>
If it's similar to a computer program then so is the formation of water.
<quoted text>
Except I've presented you the evidence otherwise, even just one or two pages ago. How many times? 10? 20? More? I can't convince you of something you find theologically inconvenient. So I worry little about what you're personally capable of understanding. And keep in mind that math is APPLIED to evidence, it is not the evidence itself. So feel free to believe in massive world-wide conspiracies if you like, and we'll lump you in with the moon-landing deniers and flat-Earthers.
Oooh...don't forget the "full moon makes peole act wierd" group! that's one of my personal favorites!

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#80853 Mar 14, 2013
Well it was fun while it lasted. goodbye to all.

“Cruisin' In Stereo”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#80854 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>is this really reverse evolution? what trait did they revert to? seems they picked up on an entirely new habitat and food source. not reverse at all, very forward...
maybe you should file a compliant with ScienceDaily...

I think that might be a fundie site posing as a science magazine to discredit evolution!!!!hahahahha
west

Hannibal, MO

#80855 Mar 14, 2013
Cybele wrote:
see yah all in hell
Cybele you know God/Devil, heaven/Hell. Adam and Eve, Easter Bunny and Santa are all manmade earthbound fantasy worlds......made up by the human mind. Silly simple humans..........
anonymous

Barberton, OH

#80856 Mar 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually it's you fundies who declare yourselves God as you like to keep telling it what to do.
Setting up the tin soldiers just to knock them down again. I already have stated that I'm logically an agnostic but spiritually an atheist.

When I refer to "God", it's only that something you see when you look in the mirror. THAT god is invincible because I don't care and can't really know what you are seeing. I just know that it's impossible for a thinking machine to understand itself fully. It's impossible for anything to totally overcome its fear of death and pain. At best, you can trick yourself into temporary distraction.

With faith, an idiot can eventually beat you at your game far easier than a brilliant person ever could. All it really takes is for that idiot to not make enemies while you go on making everyone an enemy.

Now, do you see ME setting up tin soldiers to knock down? Perhaps....but that would mean that that one of us does not serve that master, or that one of us has decided to give in and serve the master willingly, or that one of us isn't playing the game that our metaphorical god is playing by walking among his own creations.

See? The secret to accomplishing those transcendent things that people write about is really just to stop thinking of people as fellow human beings. That way, the abyss cannot stare back into you.... but you may not like the company you keep anymore either.

Train wreck option #3: Become the evil you sought to destroy! Smile for the camera! ;)
anonymous

Barberton, OH

#80857 Mar 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>there is no evidence at all of your god. end of existensial discussion.
go back to your child porn sites, you pervert...
You're boring me. You behave like an overweight teenager who talks trash because all his fellow couch potato gamers do. When you experience real life, you may have something to say, but that won't happen as long as your reality is defined by bitmap trophies.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80858 Mar 14, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
You're boring me. You behave like an overweight teenager who talks trash because all his fellow couch potato gamers do. When you experience real life, you may have something to say, but that won't happen as long as your reality is defined by bitmap trophies.
if I'm boring you, i expect this will be the last time you address me.

goodbye child molesting pervert...
HOG_ Hand of God

Kingston, Jamaica

#80860 Mar 14, 2013
Spirituality is the first science:
Watch the point 6:20-7:50
HOG_ Hand of God

Kingston, Jamaica

#80861 Mar 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Technically speaking apes did become men. Humans *are* apes.
Now, why am I not surprised you would say something like that?

Do they trust you to cross the street by yourself?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80862 Mar 14, 2013
HOG_ Hand of God wrote:
Spirituality is the first science:
Watch the point 6:20-7:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =EeUrU-UA858XX
how can an unprovable concept be a science?

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