Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#80472 Mar 11, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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But with all the hoopla surrounding the announcement, don’t overlook the facts. The scientists never actually created new life! They didn’t even get close.
Have Scientists Finally Created Life?
http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/7210.5775.0...
First: The genetic code “created” by the scientists was really a copy of the code from an existing bacterium. There was nothing new about it. The scientists did add some additional material to the dna (their names and the quote), but it was useless material for the bacteria. It would be like a computer programmer inserting his favorite movie quote, or his birth date into a software code. It is there, but it does nothing.
Second: The copied dna was inserted into another living bacteria. The scientists did not “create” any of the organelles—the cell membrane, the cytoplasm, etc.—of that second bacteria either.
So what exactly did the scientists actually create?
Nothing. They copied, they manipulated, they forced nature in unnatural ways, but they did not create life!
sorry, no cigar....try again...lol
Wow, you are using dishonesty as if it's a scalpel, not wise. Dishonesty is very easy to see through, so easy it's why people are discarding your mythology, so meh. Just do yourself a favor, learn something instead of lie about what you don't want to learn.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#80473 Mar 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Wow, you are using dishonesty as if it's a scalpel, not wise. Dishonesty is very easy to see through, so easy it's why people are discarding your mythology, so meh. Just do yourself a favor, learn something instead of lie about what you don't want to learn.
Scientist:'We didn't create life from scratch'
GENETIC CODE
May 21, 2010|From CNN reports

Genetics pioneer J. Craig Venter announced Thursday that he and his team have created artificial life for the first time.

Using sequences of genetic code created on a computer, the team assembled a complete DNA of a bacterium, then inserted it in another bacterium and initiated synthesis, or in Venter's words "booted up" the cell.

In a statement, Venter called the results "the proof of principle that genomes can be designed in the computer, chemically made in the laboratory and transplanted into a recipient cell to produce a new self-replicating cell," controlled only by the synthetic genome.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#80474 Mar 11, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Scientist:'We didn't create life from scratch'
GENETIC CODE
May 21, 2010|From CNN reports
Genetics pioneer J. Craig Venter announced Thursday that he and his team have created artificial life for the first time.
Using sequences of genetic code created on a computer, the team assembled a complete DNA of a bacterium, then inserted it in another bacterium and initiated synthesis, or in Venter's words "booted up" the cell.
In a statement, Venter called the results "the proof of principle that genomes can be designed in the computer, chemically made in the laboratory and transplanted into a recipient cell to produce a new self-replicating cell," controlled only by the synthetic genome.
So ... you know nothing about genetics.
Humanoid

Hannibal, MO

#80475 Mar 11, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Scientist:'We didn't create life from scratch'
GENETIC CODE
May 21, 2010|From CNN reports
Genetics pioneer J. Craig Venter announced Thursday that he and his team have created artificial life for the first time.
Using sequences of genetic code created on a computer, the team assembled a complete DNA of a bacterium, then inserted it in another bacterium and initiated synthesis, or in Venter's words "booted up" the cell.
In a statement, Venter called the results "the proof of principle that genomes can be designed in the computer, chemically made in the laboratory and transplanted into a recipient cell to produce a new self-replicating cell," controlled only by the synthetic genome.
Your close.....its "Alien code". Its as complicated as it gets to the human animal....ghost like.

Since: Jun 12

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#80476 Mar 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Wow, you are using dishonesty as if it's a scalpel, not wise. Dishonesty is very easy to see through, so easy it's why people are discarding your mythology, so meh. Just do yourself a favor, learn something instead of lie about what you don't want to learn.
manipulating life that already exist, is not "creating life" life in any since of the word as you claimed...case closed.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#80477 Mar 11, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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manipulating life that already exist, is not "creating life" life in any since of the word as you claimed...case closed.
Actually, it is "creating" life in the scientific sense, because what you propose is not creating but simply allowing the chemicals to react on their own, resulting in the formation of organisms. We're working on that in a completely different study.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#80478 Mar 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Actually, it is "creating" life in the scientific sense, because what you propose is not creating but simply allowing the chemicals to react on their own, resulting in the formation of organisms. We're working on that in a completely different study.
Me thinks you watched Frankenstein one two many times.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#80479 Mar 11, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Me thinks you watched Frankenstein one two many times.
Reduced to attempted ad homs, I see, so you have nothing to offer the species, maybe it's best if you remain in that cave you call the bible, and stay out of the way of progress.
bohart

Newport, TN

#80480 Mar 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Um, we have created life, we're trying to find out how it can happen without our interference. You really are clueless, aren't you?
You had better tell the New York Times they missed that one,ha,ha,ha,. What an unashamed liar you are.
bohart

Newport, TN

#80481 Mar 11, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Here's one such example.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/7745868/Sc...
Uhoh, that's 2 years ago, hmm ... maybe something newer?
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/05/20/sci...
Oh crap, that's still from 2 years ago.
Yeah, we did it 2 years ago, please, for the love of the universe, catch up with reality and scientific understanding.
As usual the evotarded succubus has infected this thread with her lies. THEY ALTERED EXISTING LIFE ,but you knew that . You simply react like mindless antibodies attacking anything that threatens your puddle gooist belief system with any kind of attack, spewing bile and hatred. Knell wench to your God ,...Nihilism the God of nothing

“too hard to handle”

Level 4

Since: Jun 11

butler, pa

#80483 Mar 11, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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That's a rather silly thing to say, especially since the Nazi's had "God is with us" embossed on their belt buckles. So since their beliefs ultimately have their roots in Jewish theology also, if we had a Nazi creationist on here spouting fundie BS too I would also be pointing out that they too were invoking invisible Jewish magic. Which would then pish him off as he would presume I was lumping him in with the Jews that he hates so much.
And I would laugh at him for both his foolish bigotry and foolish claims.
And for the record, I don't recall anything in my history books about the Nazi's making fun of Jews because they believe in invisible Jewmagic.

So uh, it's superwilly and no balls, is that it?
Not really, Hitler just took it a step further and used the term "jewsheisse", of course the nazis took advantage of every chance they had to redicule the jews. They ridiculed jewish belief at every turn. I'll stop about the "jewmagic" terminology, I just don't like it.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#80484 Mar 11, 2013
bohart wrote:
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You had better tell the New York Times they missed that one,ha,ha,ha,. What an unashamed liar you are.
The New York Times gets a lot of things wrong, a lot of things. You are depending on a periodical, that's almost entirely opinion, for scientific news? You are an idiot.
LEARNER

New Albany, IN

#80485 Mar 12, 2013
Why is this thread always in the top ten?

“I started out with nothing”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#80486 Mar 12, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Bingo.
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Possibly. I'd rather defer to Polymath though. Wish he were here.
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Agreed.
Polymath has clarified a thing or two for sure
anonymous

Barberton, OH

#80487 Mar 12, 2013
bohart wrote:
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As usual the evotarded succubus has infected this thread with her lies. THEY ALTERED EXISTING LIFE ,but you knew that . You simply react like mindless antibodies attacking anything that threatens your puddle gooist belief system with any kind of attack, spewing bile and hatred. Knell wench to your God ,...Nihilism the God of nothing
I knew it was just a matter of time before the "succubus" nonsense would come out.

I should be using some sort of symbol to notate posters who are likely in one type of closet or another. How about *V*. I'll start all my posts to those weasels who are talking to the camera, not the poster, with a quasi "anonymous" (as in the hackers) symbol....although Guy Fawkes you ain't.

“I see quantum effects”

Level 2

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#80488 Mar 12, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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The more accurate theory has not been hypothesized yet.
Willful liar.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80489 Mar 12, 2013
LEARNER wrote:
Why is this thread always in the top ten?
Mi publico....
hatuey

Methuen, MA

#80490 Mar 12, 2013
dna manipulation by extraterrestrials created men. creation in itself has manipulations for there to b some kind of evolution within the interrelate dimational creations
hatuey

Methuen, MA

#80491 Mar 12, 2013
evolution within creation is part of the dna for adaptation and survival
hatuey

Methuen, MA

#80492 Mar 12, 2013
lern how to wake-up inside your dreams and test the 5 senses therein, then maybe your ideas about evolution vs creation will expand. please judge my comments

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