Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 216634 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Best of New Orleans.

The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#80512 Mar 12, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Einstein didn't call Newton a Jew or anything. Einstein was a Jew, so you're bashing him for using the term Jewmagic.
No I'm not. One, Einstein wasn't a classical theist and would certainly raise an eyebrow at you for attempting to portray himself as one. His ideas would be more akin to deism. Two, the Jews are not the brunt of my jokes. Three, my description is accurate. Fundies oppose reality because they think that an invisible magic Jew did it differently. I merely point out that their claims are Jewish in origin. But it's the invisible magic part which is silly. Fourth, as the example of Einstein helpfully points out, not all Jewish people are theists. Jewish people have expanded as a culture during history and can be theists, atheists, deists, and many other things. Therefore I would not be poking fun at the non-creationists. Fifth - if Jews happen to be creationists? Well tough poop. Creationism (be aware I say creationism and not religion or theism here, but creationism in particular) is dumbness defined. Period. You guys like to make the laughable claim that science is "prevented from criticism" yet when we (quite rightfully) criticize creationism you whine like babies. It's bollox. Get over it.(shrug)
ThenWhenNow

New York, NY

#80513 Mar 12, 2013
God Is.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#80514 Mar 12, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>No I'm not. One, Einstein wasn't a classical theist and would certainly raise an eyebrow at you for attempting to portray himself as one. His ideas would be more akin to deism. Two, the Jews are not the brunt of my jokes. Three, my description is accurate. Fundies oppose reality because they think that an invisible magic Jew did it differently. I merely point out that their claims are Jewish in origin. But it's the invisible magic part which is silly. Fourth, as the example of Einstein helpfully points out, not all Jewish people are theists. Jewish people have expanded as a culture during history and can be theists, atheists, deists, and many other things. Therefore I would not be poking fun at the non-creationists. Fifth - if Jews happen to be creationists? Well tough poop. Creationism (be aware I say creationism and not religion or theism here, but creationism in particular) is dumbness defined. Period. You guys like to make the laughable claim that science is "prevented from criticism" yet when we (quite rightfully) criticize creationism you whine like babies. It's bollox. Get over it.(shrug)
Whatever Dude. You are a bloody liar and a c unt. lol

Have the balls to admit you were throwing racial slurs or you are a liar.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#80515 Mar 12, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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But doesn't anyone care about the kittens?
:-(
"The chirrun! What about the chirrun?"

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#80516 Mar 12, 2013
LEARNER wrote:
Why is this thread always in the top ten?
Because people keep posting on it.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#80517 Mar 12, 2013
http://www.intelligentdesigntheory.info/creat...

"37 Facts of Creation vs. 30 False Theories of Evolution

Teaching Creation vs. Evolution

Both evolution and Intelligent Design Theory should be taught in school. In the creation vs. evolution debate facts for kids, natural selection and survival of the fittest are real and has caused you to believe that life is an accident. This has caused considerable conflict and turmoil in your life that was not of your conscious actions. If evolution is your belief, it is an integral part of your thoughts and your demeanour. Unfortunately, you are not living in harmony with love, peace, joy and a life of comfort or your own existence. Turmoil and conflict just flow into your life and you may wonder,'why me'? The problem is that much of the theory of evolution is unbelievable. Evolution vs. creationism is the cause of the unsolicited turmoil in your life. So you have my sympathy and my warm regards. After two hundred years of Darwinism, in creation vs. evolution many unbelievable beliefs about evolution have evolved.

Belief in evolution results in a subconscious feeling of futility and despair because it is in total conflict with humans' and and other creatures' desire to live and their constant battle to survive. Belief in evolution causes one to wonder if he or she will cease to exist or will suffer torture eternally in hell. Belief in creation results in a conscious feeling of comfort, joy and peace, causing one to know that he or she will live forever, free of pain, discord and suffering."

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#80518 Mar 12, 2013
"Science, testable, measurable, observable and repeatable things that we know about the earth and the universe indicate that

There is absolutely no evidence that Charles Darwin's theory of natural selection proves change of species.
That aliens created billions of species on earth is not credible. What then, created the aliens?
Whales did not evolve from dogs.
Human ears did not evolve from fish gills, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
Human lungs did not evolve from fish gills, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
There is absolutely no evolution evidence that life is an accident.
Evolution does not explain life, consciousness, intelligence or thoughts.
Because of this, modern Charles Darwin's theory of evolution evidence is not entirely credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
Nuclear decay of Radioactive isotopes has some serious flaws in the dating process.
Uniform decay of radioisotopes has been disproved by Creation Science.
The Big Bang is not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
That electrons and protons came from nowhere is difficult to believe, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
Black holes are not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
Time dilation is not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
Einstein warping of space and space contraction are not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
The existence of negative mirror universes is not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured
That the creation of cells, DNA molecules and galaxies evolved by accident is not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
That life began in a methane, ammonia and carbon dioxide atmosphere is not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
Your twin brother travelling at the speed of light and aging less is not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured..
That particles pop in and out of the universe at random is not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
Stars travelling faster than the speed of light as a result of the Big Bang or any other reason is not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
The distance between galaxies at the limits of the universe is the same as they are everywhere. Therefore, the universe may not be expanding
Red shift of light due to velocity and not gas and dust in space is not credible.
That the speed of light is a constant is not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
The Heisenberg uncertainty principle is not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
Quantum tunnelling is not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
Spontaneous punctuated equilibrium is not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
The theory of relativity is not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
Antimatter as a result of black holes is not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
Photons are not credible, cannot be tested, observed or measured.
Different Theories About Creation

In creation vs. evolution, the belief that nothing in the universe is by accident is a more believable concept and is more strongly backed up by scientific knowledge. Measurable evidence of creation vs. evolution indicates that"

http://www.intelligentdesigntheory.info/creat...

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#80519 Mar 12, 2013
http://www.intelligentdesigntheory.info/creat...

"In creation vs. evolution, the belief that nothing in the universe is by accident is a more believable concept and is more strongly backed up by scientific knowledge. Measurable evidence of creation vs. evolution indicates that
The Creation of the earth environment was the same or better than today's environment.
The structure of the atoms was not an accident.
Gravity is not an accident.
Earth and moon dust prove the earth is young.
That water preserved itself for thousands of years is the result of natural water pollution control and is not an accident.
The rotating earth is not an accident.
Symbiotic relationships between plants and animals are proof of Intelligent Design
DNA is not an accident.
The electron and proton are not accidents.
The structure and distribution of chemicals are no accident.
The unique properties of water are no accident.
Photosynthesis is not an accident.
Symbiotic relationships in nature are not an accident.
For all of the conditions for life on earth to exist because of the water molecule is not an accident.
Micronutrients are not an accident.
Noah's Ark actually occurred.
The Euphrates River began about 6000 years ago.
Niagara Falls dates back to the time of the Flood of Noah.
The history of the Bible has been proven by thousands of archaeological discoveries.*
The coming to earth of Jesus actually occurred.
Biblical Predictions of the coming of Jesus Christ prove that it was pre-planned.
Skin colour is not an accident.
The organs and anatomy of humans and animals are not accidents.
Reproduction is not an accident.
Animal miracles and plant miracles are no accident
Symbiotic relationships prove that all species had to be created at the same time, or no species would survive.
Consciousness, intelligence and thoughts are not an accident.
Sight, hearing, taste, smell and feeling are not accidents.
Cell division into different components of plants and animals is not an accident.
Acid rain was pre-planned and has purpose.
Climate of the earth is not an accident.
Rapid decay of radioactive isotopes at the time of the flood and the time of creation proves that the earth is young.
The complexity of cells and DNA molecules is not an accident.
The pyramids prove that man's intelligence has not evolved, but has decreased.
The moon is not an accident.
The Ten Commandments are valid guidelines for conduct."
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#80520 Mar 12, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever Dude. You are a bloody liar and a c unt. lol
Charming.

:-/
Cybele wrote:
Have the balls to admit you were throwing racial slurs or you are a liar.
You go ahead and invent whatever boogey-men you need to make you feel righteous.(shrug)
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#80521 Mar 12, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
"37 Facts of Creation vs. 30 False Theories of Evolution
Teaching Creation vs. Evolution
Both evolution and Intelligent Design Theory should be taught in school.
What is the "scientific theory" of ID? Unfortunately none of your linkys seem to say. And they even link it directly with creationism, which is supposed to be the big secret no-one was supposed to know about, right?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80522 Mar 12, 2013
Wow! what a load of crap, langoliers! I can't believe in this day and age people are actually stupid enough to believe such bullshit.

you must have got that from one of the biggest fundie sites on the net, huh?

anyone caught teaching such stoane-age crap to kids should be shot.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80523 Mar 12, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever Dude. You are a bloody liar and a c unt. lol
Have the balls to admit you were throwing racial slurs or you are a liar.
Ahh, the compassion of one who "understands the
true nature of god"...so refreshing and uplifting...

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#80524 Mar 12, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
But doesn't anyone care about the kittens?
:-(
Oh, is that what you said to your mom when she caught you cutting them them up looking for a soul?

you have the mentality of a hitler want a be.

The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#80525 Mar 12, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, is that what you said to your mom when she caught you cutting them them up looking for a soul?
you have the mentality of a hitler want a be.
No, no, no, it wasn't a soul, it was a sole. The darn cat ate it! Poor fishy.

:-(

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#80526 Mar 12, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
Wow! what a load of crap, langoliers! I can't believe in this day and age people are actually stupid enough to believe such bullshit.
you must have got that from one of the biggest fundie sites on the net, huh?
anyone caught teaching such stoane-age crap to kids should be shot.
of course teaching a false godless,souless, nihilistic "your life is nothing but the result of an interaction of chemical" view of science to kids is the way to go.

no wonder that murder and suicide rate is up so high among kids.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#80527 Mar 12, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
No, no, no, it wasn't a soul, it was a sole. The darn cat ate it! Poor fishy.
:-(
of course you don't know the deference between a soul and a sole...that goes without saying.

“too hard to handle”

Level 4

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#80528 Mar 12, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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And I'm not ridiculing Jews or Jewish theology, I'm ridiculing creationism. That's the difference.
<quoted text>
I don't care what you like. Was Einstein being mean to gravitationalists for criticising Newtonian physics?
If people don't want their concepts to be put under critical scrutiny then I suggest they don't present them here. They are free to do so or not to do so. If you want protection from said scrutiny then that's what churches are for.
I said THE NAZIS ridiculed the jews every chance they got, not you!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80529 Mar 12, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
of course teaching a false godless,souless, nihilistic "your life is nothing but the result of an interaction of chemical" view of science to kids is the way to go.
no wonder that murder and suicide rate is up so high among kids.
Actually in countries with the highest number of nonbelievers, the kids are the best educated in the world, they are the healthiest, happiest citizens and they enjoy the highest standard of living. seems your entire theory is baseless.

teaching kids lies, like there is any evidence of any god whatsoever, or any soul is tragic.

nonbelief is in no way nihilistic. Not even close.

perhaps you should understand what you are talking about before posting such rot, from the first to last word of that post...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#80530 Mar 12, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
of course you don't know the deference between a soul and a sole...that goes without saying.
there is no evidence of any soul or spirit. none whatsoever. that too, is a myth.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#80531 Mar 12, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
http://www.intelligentdesignth eory.info/creation_vs_evolutio n.htm
"37 Facts of Creation vs. 30 False Theories of Evolution
<snip>
Langy, why do you post crap like this?

It looks like it was written by a sixth grader.

It was obviously not written by anyone who knew anything at all about science. Their first claim alone proves that.

I know that you have no real evidence so you go to these sites to get somebody to lie for you. It does not seem like that big of a lie if you get someone else to do the dirty work.

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