Evolution vs. Creation

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#79743 Mar 8, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Two totally different topics.
What difference does it make if the universe is steady state or not?
You probably do not understand that subject either.
well the obvious point was...if the steady state theory was the basis of your argument...it would simply nullify the idea of a the universe having a beginning...where as, the big bang theory is basically 'creation' without god.
To imply that the formation of, and the on going processes of the universe, has nothing to do with evolution is quite unrealistic.

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#79744 Mar 8, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Two totally different topics.

What difference does it make if the universe is steady state or not?

You probably do not understand that subject either.
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#79745 Mar 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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How's it feel to alway make these silly stances only to find out you just plane uneducated.
Look it and read.
Present a link, because "ice out" doesn't do much in Google.

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#79746 Mar 8, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Planet of the Apes. check.
King Kong. check.
Monkey Shines. check.
Now i get the fudge...the concestor idea is what you do not get.

Like some others have the narrow definition of evolution as only reproduction and forget variation.

Or some here speaking "god bless", as if god was invented to bless stupidity.

EDEN-plain akkadian.

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#79747 Mar 8, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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well the obvious point was...if the steady state theory was the basis of your argument...it would simply nullify the idea of a the universe having a beginning...where as, the big bang theory is basically 'creation' without god.
To imply that the formation of, and the on going processes of the universe, has nothing to do with evolution is quite unrealistic.
No, neither one has anything to do with evolution. In both there is more than enough time for evolution to occur.

It is known now how the universe could create itself without breaking any laws of physics.

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#79748 Mar 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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"Soudan Underground Mine State Park, Soudan, Minnesota
Welcome to the Soudan Underground Laboratory, operated by the University of Minnesota in partnership with the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, and the CDMS II and MINOS Collaborations. This unique facility is located almost a half-mile underground, and is designed to explore fundamental questions about the structure of our universe. Not all have answers (at least not yet) but we hope this guide and your hosts can help explain how we go about asking such questions, and why we think they are important. Enjoy your visit!"
Another pointless post by Langy. And yes, I have been in the Soudan mine. It is cool in more ways than one.

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#79749 Mar 8, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>Another pointless post by Langy. And yes, I have been in the Soudan mine. It is cool in more ways than one.
No not pointless not at all.
Connect the dots.
I asked where did you live in the state.

I shed a bit of light in where in the state I spend time.

Pointless nope.

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#79750 Mar 8, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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No not pointless not at all.
Connect the dots.
I asked where did you live in the state.
I shed a bit of light in where in the state I spend time.
Pointless nope.
So are you claiming that you came from "da range"?

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#79751 Mar 8, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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Now i get the fudge...the concestor idea is what you do not get.
Like some others have the narrow definition of evolution as only reproduction and forget variation.
Or some here speaking "god bless", as if god was invented to bless stupidity.
EDEN-plain akkadian.
Wow. If I'm mistaken, then correct me. If we evolved from apes, then there was a real chewbacca sometime in the past, or do you prefer elite ape? lol

a dose of humor. everyone needs it.

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#79752 Mar 8, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Wow. If I'm mistaken, then correct me. If we evolved from apes, then there was a real chewbacca sometime in the past, or do you prefer elite ape? lol
a dose of humor. everyone needs it.
We didn't evolve from apes.

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#79753 Mar 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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We didn't evolve from apes.
I disagree. Our common ancestor with the chimpanzee would be called an ape today and we also are still classified as apes.

So I suppose you could say we did not evolve "from" apes since we still are apes.

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#79754 Mar 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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We didn't evolve from apes.
They keep denying that - not knowing that they're the only ones claiming it.

Odd.

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#79755 Mar 8, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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I disagree. Our common ancestor with the chimpanzee would be called an ape today and we also are still classified as apes.
So I suppose you could say we did not evolve "from" apes since we still are apes.
Okay, that.

Floccinaucinihilpilificator.

Or is that "...pilificatrix"?

Laffin.

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#79756 Mar 8, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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I disagree. Our common ancestor with the chimpanzee would be called an ape today and we also are still classified as apes.
So I suppose you could say we did not evolve "from" apes since we still are apes.
Exactly. ;)

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#79757 Mar 8, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>They keep denying that - not knowing that they're the only ones claiming it.
Odd.
I know, it's so .... odd.

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#79758 Mar 8, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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We didn't evolve from apes.
oh sorry, cats I suppose. ;-)

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#79759 Mar 8, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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oh sorry, cats I suppose. ;-)
Not that either, I think.
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#79760 Mar 8, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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Oh so your beef is with Charles!
Well he can use some more flack...dh
But not that anyone else noticed, given the way you implicate everybody.
Implicate everyone else in WHAT? Yer losin' it, mate!

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#79761 Mar 8, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Not that either, I think.
well I do know I evolved from a blue fish.

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#79762 Mar 8, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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No, neither one has anything to do with evolution. In both there is more than enough time for evolution to occur.
It is known now how the universe could create itself without breaking any laws of physics.
whatever...if you tell me to think rationally and logically...and then tell me that the universe created itself virtually out of nothing...then your presenting a oxymoron.

I find that it's more than likely, on a psychological level that scientists have developed a hypothesis that supports the only view in which they can exclude any type of intelligence behind the process of the creation of the universe.

and why do I think this?...because scientists copy processes from the universe to advance their own knowledge, the same as if they had found an advanced alien space ship and incorporated into their own design....and then readily deny that any kind of intelligent exist behind these processes.So basically you have no problem acknowledging the space ship as an advanced concept...but at the same time you deny the obvious alien intelligence that is implied.

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