whatever...if you tell me to think rationally and logically...and then tell me that the universe created itself virtually out of nothing...then your presenting a oxymoron.<quoted text>
No, neither one has anything to do with evolution. In both there is more than enough time for evolution to occur.
It is known now how the universe could create itself without breaking any laws of physics.
I find that it's more than likely, on a psychological level that scientists have developed a hypothesis that supports the only view in which they can exclude any type of intelligence behind the process of the creation of the universe.
and why do I think this?...because scientists copy processes from the universe to advance their own knowledge, the same as if they had found an advanced alien space ship and incorporated into their own design....and then readily deny that any kind of intelligent exist behind these processes.So basically you have no problem acknowledging the space ship as an advanced concept...but at the same time you deny the obvious alien intelligence that is implied.