Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 218748 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#78205 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Am I wrong?
"Woodtick is in the twin city's I live on the North Shore of Lake Superior year round not him. He spends time in Grand Marais, he said in the winter time but he also said he is currently in the twin city's
And it is winter so who knows. I don't doubt he comes up here but it's not a year round thing"
yes, you are wrong.

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#78206 Mar 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>No, monkeys are atotally different species from homo sapiens and they do not have the intelligence level that we do.
these are pretty basic facts. why don't you know them?
so apes aren't related to the monkeys?

Langoliers

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#78207 Mar 2, 2013
Tooth4U wrote:
must I once again chime in to this argument? yes I must.

Evolution and Creation are 'both' true. First there was Creation and then everything evolved from there.

Now. Simple to understand isn't it?

The "Divine' spark which was given to humanity has a well documented evolutionary path. Yet first came 'the spark' of conscious awareness' in order for Mankind to rise above the animal instinctive impulses and be self conscious..........with the abilty to preface in speach the "I"
I think.
I do are do not like this.
I seek to make this a better world.

CABISH?
"Since there is so little understanding about what Scripture actually says on this subject, let's make the consistent biblical position very plain and clear. The human creation account begins in the first chapter of the very first book of the Bible.
"Then God said,'Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth'" (Genesis 1:26).
Here Scripture draws a clear distinction between man and the animal world. Previous passages plainly show that mammals, birds and fish were definitely not created in the image of God (verses 20-25). Only man shares that awesome distinction and for a grand purpose.(To understand further, please request or download our free booklet Who Is God?) God first states His intention to create human beings and then He does it. "So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them" (verse 27). More details are revealed in the second chapter. "And the Lord God formed man [Adam] of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being" (Genesis 2:7).
The biblical narrative is in sharp contrast to those who believe that evolution has shaped dust into humanity. In essence this belief amounts to idolatry since evolution has been put in the place of God.
The narrative continues with the creation of Eve. "And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from the man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man. And Adam said:'This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man'" (Genesis 2:21-23.)"

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#78208 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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sorry I'm not...you can make up any arbitrary category you want based on similarities, and list humans under it...
you a fish as well...your inanimate matter....if you think that life began that way.
Their all arbitrary concepts.
No, can't be fish, gills are one of the primary traits of any species of fish. The categories are not entirely arbitrary, each part of the classification requires a number of matching traits, homo is the genus, for example. Homo contains 6 specific species, each similar but different enough to be different species. Which is part of the hominids. We are hominids. Genetics supports this classification.

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#78209 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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so apes aren't related to the monkeys?
They are, the same way a bat is related to a rat.

Langoliers

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#78210 Mar 2, 2013
Tooth4U wrote:
Both evolution and creation are true.

so quit ranting..pick up your marbles..........go home and find common ground.
"The Psalms confirm creation
Other books in the Bible, like the Psalms, confirm the Genesis account of the human creation. Consider the human eye. We may ask, who designed the first eye? How could the eye possibly be the product of an accidental mutation? How could aeons of gradual change produce an eye—an astoundingly complex organ that needs all of its highly integrated parts to function?
The psalmist gives the credit to God. "He who planted the ear, shall He not hear? He who formed the eye, shall He not see?" (Psalm 94:9).
What did King David say about his own origins? "I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made" (Psalm 139:14). He attributed his existence directly to God and went on to describe how the Creator knew all of his parts even while he was in his mother's womb (verses 15-16).
David asked the crucial question: "What is man that You are mindful of Him ...? You made him a little lower than the angels ..." (Psalm 8:4-5). He goes on to tell us how man has been given rule over the earth, including the flora and the fauna (verses 6-8).
Columnist Mark Steyn, writing in the British Spectator, said this pivotal passage "accurately conveys the central feature of our world—our dominion over pretty much everything else out there." He adds that the writer of this psalm "captured the essence of our reality better than your average geneticist" ("O Come, All Ye Faithless," Dec. 17, 2005)."

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#78211 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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"If we started writing 5K years ago, we would have had to exist before that time."
No not at all true.
What? Do babies know how to write the moment they are born in your fantasy land?

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Since: Nov 11

Albakoikee

#78212 Mar 2, 2013
Evolution, the evidence is there in all the fossils and skeletons we see found every day.

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#78213 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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You asserted that warm was evidence of light...basically all you are saying is that your assertions are right, and any other assertion is wrong that does no coincide to yours.
So now you are reading words into my posts. You are hallucinating, your delusion is advancing, get help.

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#78214 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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"The Psalms confirm creation
Other books in the Bible, like the Psalms, confirm the Genesis account of the human creation. Consider the human eye. We may ask, who designed the first eye? How could the eye possibly be the product of an accidental mutation? How could aeons of gradual change produce an eye—an astoundingly complex organ that needs all of its highly integrated parts to function?
The psalmist gives the credit to God. "He who planted the ear, shall He not hear? He who formed the eye, shall He not see?" (Psalm 94:9).
What did King David say about his own origins? "I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made" (Psalm 139:14). He attributed his existence directly to God and went on to describe how the Creator knew all of his parts even while he was in his mother's womb (verses 15-16).
David asked the crucial question: "What is man that You are mindful of Him ...? You made him a little lower than the angels ..." (Psalm 8:4-5). He goes on to tell us how man has been given rule over the earth, including the flora and the fauna (verses 6-8).
Columnist Mark Steyn, writing in the British Spectator, said this pivotal passage "accurately conveys the central feature of our world—our dominion over pretty much everything else out there." He adds that the writer of this psalm "captured the essence of our reality better than your average geneticist" ("O Come, All Ye Faithless," Dec. 17, 2005)."
Addressed already, debunked, and completely humiliated. You should catch up.

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#78215 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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so apes aren't related to the monkeys?
as far as I know,they both bleed red...?

So you can create a list that says that all creatures that bleed red are related...propagate and teach it and tell it, until is accepted as "scienctific fact".

But It's still just an arbitrary concept.



Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#78216 Mar 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes, you are wrong.
Ok then on what part?
When you returned to posting after an absence I asked if you were up here "Grand Marais" you replied that you were still in the cities. You later takes about you heading north to Brained for a reunion. You also stated in the past that you only live up here in the winter time and return to the cities in the summer time.

Are you up here now? Could be but truly nothing I stated was wrong.

Since: Jun 12

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#78217 Mar 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>they, too, are a different and separate species.
from what?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#78218 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
sorry I'm not...you can make up any arbitrary category you want based on similarities, and list humans under it...
you a fish as well...your inanimate matter....if you think that life began that way.
Their all arbitrary concepts.
your cult also believes humans came from inanimate matter...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#78219 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
"The Psalms confirm creation
Other books in the Bible, like the Psalms, confirm the Genesis account of the human creation. Consider the human eye. We may ask, who designed the first eye? How could the eye possibly be the product of an accidental mutation? How could aeons of gradual change produce an eye—an astoundingly complex organ that needs all of its highly integrated parts to function?
The psalmist gives the credit to God. "He who planted the ear, shall He not hear? He who formed the eye, shall He not see?" (Psalm 94:9).
What did King David say about his own origins? "I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made" (Psalm 139:14). He attributed his existence directly to God and went on to describe how the Creator knew all of his parts even while he was in his mother's womb (verses 15-16).
David asked the crucial question: "What is man that You are mindful of Him ...? You made him a little lower than the angels ..." (Psalm 8:4-5). He goes on to tell us how man has been given rule over the earth, including the flora and the fauna (verses 6-8).
Columnist Mark Steyn, writing in the British Spectator, said this pivotal passage "accurately conveys the central feature of our world—our dominion over pretty much everything else out there." He adds that the writer of this psalm "captured the essence of our reality better than your average geneticist" ("O Come, All Ye Faithless," Dec. 17, 2005)."
if youe were to actually look at the real world around you, you would see that there are millions of types of eyes, from simple light sensing organds to eyes far more comples than the human eye.

why would your mythical god not give his favored creatures the best eye he could design and instead give it to a little shrimp?

your psalms, like the rest of your cult book does not reflect teh real world you could see with your own eyes accurately or honestly...

““You must not lose faith ”

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#78220 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Take that up with God.
He says he did create Adam.
And something that atheist love to over look. Just like the Bible claims it is totally possible to create Eve from a rib from Adam. And the Rib used is the only bone known to regrow completely if removed. Interesting not bad for goat herders.
Interesting read, of on an entirely different track and bibliography:
http://vridar.wordpress.com/2010/06/20/which-...
Adam has cognates in surrounding languages all pointing to a bimorph male/female fertilify and fecundity god(dess).
Havva (M.hbr.Khava) means 'wide/broad birth' and adam 'fertile/fecundity ground'.
Tsela can mean taking from anything of the body, also the womb f.i.

Ah well, we read up and know this.
It's not to be taken literary.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#78221 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Ok then on what part?
When you returned to posting after an absence I asked if you were up here "Grand Marais" you replied that you were still in the cities. You later takes about you heading north to Brained for a reunion. You also stated in the past that you only live up here in the winter time and return to the cities in the summer time.
Are you up here now? Could be but truly nothing I stated was wrong.
yes, we travel in the winter when i am not working. you should try it. yes, hovland is our winter home, afton is our summer home.

we're on our way to chicago now after coming back from AZ. anything else you would like to know?

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#78222 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>so apes aren't related to the monkeys?
Science love the word "species" it gives them all the wiggle room they need.

Langoliers

Since: Apr 12

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#78223 Mar 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>What? Do babies know how to write the moment they are born in your fantasy land?
No kitty, but Adam knew from the moment he was created. He knew his full language.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#78224 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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so apes aren't related to the monkeys?
No, they are related, just as you are.

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