Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 171824 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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In the macro world.

#78159 Mar 2, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Actually, that appears to be true.
I was surprised too.
As long as a certain part remains intact ( I forget what it's called), then the rib will regenerate.
I guess they use the rib bone for skull repair.
Somebody's a little judgeit happy.

Did you even read it?

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#78160 Mar 2, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
Have you ever stopped to think that scientist could be seeing things wrong in this evolution idea?
Yes, and then I realized that the chances are very slim that scientists working in different branches, working independently of each other, could arrive at identical wrong answers.
Have you ever seen two failing test papers with identical wrong answers?

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#78161 Mar 2, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever stopped to think that scientist could be seeing things wrong in this evolution idea?
Yes, but that was before I actually studied a couple sets of evidence ... and did a lot of research on the subject. I mean, I'm not studied enough to tell you everything about it, no one is, because like any solid science it takes a lot of people doing a lot of study and research on it in order to become even close to as complete as the theory of evolution.

That's the difference between religion and science, you can make up any old thing and plug it into a religious belief system, and everyone will buy it, it's a billion dollar publishing industry. But with science you have to have a ton of people do a ton of work and get paid almost nothing for the trouble, just to get part of it correct. That's because science studies reality, and religion is just fantasy.
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#78162 Mar 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Yes, but that was before I actually studied a couple sets of evidence ... and did a lot of research on the subject. I mean, I'm not studied enough to tell you everything about it, no one is, because like any solid science it takes a lot of people doing a lot of study and research on it in order to become even close to as complete as the theory of evolution.
That's the difference between religion and science, you can make up any old thing and plug it into a religious belief system, and everyone will buy it, it's a billion dollar publishing industry. But with science you have to have a ton of people do a ton of work and get paid almost nothing for the trouble, just to get part of it correct. That's because science studies reality, and religion is just fantasy.
Then they need to get up off their lazy boys and start working on a new concept. Darwin and A.R Wallace were 1850's speculators and today genetic mutations theory is not even helping the original idea.

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St. Croix valley

#78163 Mar 2, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Then they need to get up off their lazy boys and start working on a new concept. Darwin and A.R Wallace were 1850's speculators and today genetic mutations theory is not even helping the original idea.
what's wrong with the old concept?

perhaps the creationists should get off their lazy chairs, they got....nothing.

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#78164 Mar 2, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Then they need to get up off their lazy boys and start working on a new concept. Darwin and A.R Wallace were 1850's speculators and today genetic mutations theory is not even helping the original idea.
Genetic mutations ARE evolution.

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#78165 Mar 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Genetic mutations ARE evolution.
Yes they are

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#78166 Mar 2, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Who ever said anything about INTELLIGENCE? Again, you are putting words in people's mouth.
Here:
Insects may have consciousness and could even be able to count, claim experts:
Insects with minuscule brains may be as intelligent as much bigger animals and may even have consciousness, it was claimed today.
Having a brain the size of a pinhead does not necessarily make you less bright, say researchers.
Computer simulations show that consciousness could be generated in neural circuits tiny enough to fit into an insect's brain, according to the scientists at Queen Mary, University of London and Cambridge University.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
interesting article...never really question whether they were aware or not...it has always seemed obvious that there's an inherent consciousness of some sort, in all living creatures...
The real mystery to me, is why there would be any question of them being conscious in the first place.(?)lol

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#78167 Mar 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>why is it you assume it is by some design? isn't that ruling out myriads of other potential reasons for that?\]pretty closed minded of you, isn't it?
or would indoctrinated be the correct word...
So your argument is that is not by design... but that it's a random combination of events that produce structure. It has no intelligence, but it produces intelligence. It has no form but it produces form.It has no cause but it produces cause...

That it creates itself out of nothing.

And if you can buy that...I have some ocean front property in Arizona that you might be interested in.

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#78168 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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So your argument is that is not by design... but that it's a random combination of events that produce structure. It has no intelligence, but it produces intelligence. It has no form but it produces form.It has no cause but it produces cause...
That it creates itself out of nothing.
And if you can buy that...I have some ocean front property in Arizona that you might be interested in.
There you go inserting presupositions like "creates" and "itself" still.

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St. Croix valley

#78169 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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So your argument is that is not by design... but that it's a random combination of events that produce structure. It has no intelligence, but it produces intelligence. It has no form but it produces form.It has no cause but it produces cause...
That it creates itself out of nothing.
And if you can buy that...I have some ocean front property in Arizona that you might be interested in.
yes.

if you believe it was from some mythical thing witha bsolutely no evidence at all, then i have some ocean front property in Colorado you might be interested in.

one of our concpets has loads and loads of evidence, yours has none. not a shred, zero,. zip. big ol' goose egg. nada.

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#78170 Mar 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes.
if you believe it was from some mythical thing witha bsolutely no evidence at all, then i have some ocean front property in Colorado you might be interested in.
one of our concpets has loads and loads of evidence, yours has none. not a shred, zero,. zip. big ol' goose egg. nada.
The truth is,you have no proof...only a claim of proof. On the other hand, I have a whole universe full of proof...you literally have nothing...lol

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#78171 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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The truth is,you have no proof...only a claim of proof. On the other hand, I have a whole universe full of proof...you literally have nothing...lol
Um ... then where is this proof you have of some god?

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#78172 Mar 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Um ... then where is this proof you have of some god?
You are like a blind person asking someone with eyes, to prove that light exist...

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St. Croix valley

#78173 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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The truth is,you have no proof...only a claim of proof. On the other hand, I have a whole universe full of proof...you literally have nothing...lol
what is that proof of yours? wouldn't the universe really be proof of the scientifically learned ways that it formed? it certainly has zero proof of any intellid=gent creator.

in fact, as I clearly and truthfully stated, there is tons of evidence to suggest that yes, tht is just the ways our world formed and evolved.

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St. Croix valley

#78174 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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You are like a blind person asking someone with eyes, to prove that light exist...
Ae you suggesting you have seen god? have you sought counseling for this disorder?

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#78175 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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You are like a blind person asking someone with eyes, to prove that light exist...
You can feel warmth from light, that is evidence of light. Where is the evidence of your god?

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St. Croix valley

#78176 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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You are like a blind person asking someone with eyes, to prove that light exist...
Speaking of blind people..

A pastor, a doctor, and an engineer were playing golf. ahead of them was a group that was taking forever and didn''t seem to know what they were doing.

the ranger came by and the three asked about the group ahead. the ranger told them it was a group of firefighters that had lost their sight fighting a fire at their clubhouse, so they let them play for free...

the pastor said "i willl pray for those brave men."

the doctor said " I'll have my opthemologist friend see if he can help them."

the engineer said "can't they play at night?"

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#78177 Mar 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Ae you suggesting you have seen god? have you sought counseling for this disorder?
are you suggesting that self proclaimed monkeys, have the ability to distinguished between truth and fiction?

After all, you are only monkeys.

I really don't think that it would be wise, for people to listen to monkeys on such profound issues, such as the creation of the universe and concepts of God...

Do you?

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#78178 Mar 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Ae you suggesting you have seen god? have you sought counseling for this disorder?
He is only asking how did the rays of sunlight and the sun itself came into form.
No one did that, except God.

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