Evolution vs. Creation

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#78151 Mar 2, 2013
Evolution is wrong with it's claim that life began in lower forms of creatures and that these gradually changed over millions of years into highest forms, such as humans. The relationship between similar groups of living things is not brought about by linear changes in the environment in which they lived, but they came by the work within the environmental system they were assigned to do. Systems in nature work to reproduce kinds following patterns that are shown and they do this through cycles. The original kind had instrucions to change to accomplish the task if needed.

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#78152 Mar 2, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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God never made an Adam as written in the Bible either.
Oh!
You now believe in the existence of God.

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#78153 Mar 2, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>Self-
Awareness is usually observed by holding up a mirror and giving the animal/baby a dot on the head, and then watching the reaction.
Amoebas hate looking at themselves in the mirror.

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#78154 Mar 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Take that up with God.
He says he did create Adam.
And something that atheist love to over look. Just like the Bible claims it is totally possible to create Eve from a rib from Adam. And the Rib used is the only bone known to regrow completely if removed. Interesting not bad for goat herders.
Um...could you back up that regrowing rib thing?

Please.

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#78155 Mar 2, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Well God is lying to you...
I won't even touch the rib thing...totally stupid
Actually, that appears to be true.

I was surprised too.

As long as a certain part remains intact ( I forget what it's called), then the rib will regenerate.

I guess they use the rib bone for skull repair.

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#78156 Mar 2, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
A challenge for Langoliers. Find one non-Christian reliable source that claims an entire rib can grow back. All bones can regenerate to some extent. In fact people can "grow" by having their legs surgically broken and devices that separate the bones are used.
It's true.

I found it on several sites.

From wiki:

Ribs
There have appeared claims that human ribs could regenerate if the periosteum, the membrane surrounding the rib, were left intact. In one study rib material was used for skull reconstruction and all 12 patients had complete regeneration of the resected rib.[41]

I'm as surprised as you.

Both that ribs can grow back and that Lango was right about something.

I don't know which is more shocking.

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#78157 Mar 2, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Who ever said anything about INTELLIGENCE? Again, you are putting words in people's mouth.
Here:
Insects may have consciousness and could even be able to count, claim experts:
Insects with minuscule brains may be as intelligent as much bigger animals and may even have consciousness, it was claimed today.
Having a brain the size of a pinhead does not necessarily make you less bright, say researchers.
Computer simulations show that consciousness could be generated in neural circuits tiny enough to fit into an insect's brain, according to the scientists at Queen Mary, University of London and Cambridge University.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
There's hope for you.

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#78158 Mar 2, 2013
Tooth4U wrote:
Both evolution and creation are true.
so quit ranting..pick up your marbles..........go home and find common ground.
Evolution has evidence.

Creation, in the biblical sense, not so much.

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#78159 Mar 2, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Actually, that appears to be true.
I was surprised too.
As long as a certain part remains intact ( I forget what it's called), then the rib will regenerate.
I guess they use the rib bone for skull repair.
Somebody's a little judgeit happy.

Did you even read it?

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#78160 Mar 2, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
Have you ever stopped to think that scientist could be seeing things wrong in this evolution idea?
Yes, and then I realized that the chances are very slim that scientists working in different branches, working independently of each other, could arrive at identical wrong answers.
Have you ever seen two failing test papers with identical wrong answers?

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#78161 Mar 2, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever stopped to think that scientist could be seeing things wrong in this evolution idea?
Yes, but that was before I actually studied a couple sets of evidence ... and did a lot of research on the subject. I mean, I'm not studied enough to tell you everything about it, no one is, because like any solid science it takes a lot of people doing a lot of study and research on it in order to become even close to as complete as the theory of evolution.

That's the difference between religion and science, you can make up any old thing and plug it into a religious belief system, and everyone will buy it, it's a billion dollar publishing industry. But with science you have to have a ton of people do a ton of work and get paid almost nothing for the trouble, just to get part of it correct. That's because science studies reality, and religion is just fantasy.
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#78162 Mar 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Yes, but that was before I actually studied a couple sets of evidence ... and did a lot of research on the subject. I mean, I'm not studied enough to tell you everything about it, no one is, because like any solid science it takes a lot of people doing a lot of study and research on it in order to become even close to as complete as the theory of evolution.
That's the difference between religion and science, you can make up any old thing and plug it into a religious belief system, and everyone will buy it, it's a billion dollar publishing industry. But with science you have to have a ton of people do a ton of work and get paid almost nothing for the trouble, just to get part of it correct. That's because science studies reality, and religion is just fantasy.
Then they need to get up off their lazy boys and start working on a new concept. Darwin and A.R Wallace were 1850's speculators and today genetic mutations theory is not even helping the original idea.

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#78163 Mar 2, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Then they need to get up off their lazy boys and start working on a new concept. Darwin and A.R Wallace were 1850's speculators and today genetic mutations theory is not even helping the original idea.
what's wrong with the old concept?

perhaps the creationists should get off their lazy chairs, they got....nothing.

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#78164 Mar 2, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Then they need to get up off their lazy boys and start working on a new concept. Darwin and A.R Wallace were 1850's speculators and today genetic mutations theory is not even helping the original idea.
Genetic mutations ARE evolution.

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#78165 Mar 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Genetic mutations ARE evolution.
Yes they are

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#78166 Mar 2, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Who ever said anything about INTELLIGENCE? Again, you are putting words in people's mouth.
Here:
Insects may have consciousness and could even be able to count, claim experts:
Insects with minuscule brains may be as intelligent as much bigger animals and may even have consciousness, it was claimed today.
Having a brain the size of a pinhead does not necessarily make you less bright, say researchers.
Computer simulations show that consciousness could be generated in neural circuits tiny enough to fit into an insect's brain, according to the scientists at Queen Mary, University of London and Cambridge University.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
interesting article...never really question whether they were aware or not...it has always seemed obvious that there's an inherent consciousness of some sort, in all living creatures...
The real mystery to me, is why there would be any question of them being conscious in the first place.(?)lol

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#78167 Mar 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>why is it you assume it is by some design? isn't that ruling out myriads of other potential reasons for that?\]pretty closed minded of you, isn't it?
or would indoctrinated be the correct word...
So your argument is that is not by design... but that it's a random combination of events that produce structure. It has no intelligence, but it produces intelligence. It has no form but it produces form.It has no cause but it produces cause...

That it creates itself out of nothing.

And if you can buy that...I have some ocean front property in Arizona that you might be interested in.

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#78168 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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So your argument is that is not by design... but that it's a random combination of events that produce structure. It has no intelligence, but it produces intelligence. It has no form but it produces form.It has no cause but it produces cause...
That it creates itself out of nothing.
And if you can buy that...I have some ocean front property in Arizona that you might be interested in.
There you go inserting presupositions like "creates" and "itself" still.

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St. Croix valley

#78169 Mar 2, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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So your argument is that is not by design... but that it's a random combination of events that produce structure. It has no intelligence, but it produces intelligence. It has no form but it produces form.It has no cause but it produces cause...
That it creates itself out of nothing.
And if you can buy that...I have some ocean front property in Arizona that you might be interested in.
yes.

if you believe it was from some mythical thing witha bsolutely no evidence at all, then i have some ocean front property in Colorado you might be interested in.

one of our concpets has loads and loads of evidence, yours has none. not a shred, zero,. zip. big ol' goose egg. nada.

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#78170 Mar 2, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes.
if you believe it was from some mythical thing witha bsolutely no evidence at all, then i have some ocean front property in Colorado you might be interested in.
one of our concpets has loads and loads of evidence, yours has none. not a shred, zero,. zip. big ol' goose egg. nada.
The truth is,you have no proof...only a claim of proof. On the other hand, I have a whole universe full of proof...you literally have nothing...lol

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