Evolution vs. Creation

[sickofit]

xxxooxxx wrote:

Hell is translated from the Hebrew word sheol...
She'ol (pron.:/ˈʃi ːoʊl/ SHEE-ohl or /ˈʃi&#72 0;əl/ SHEE-əl; Hebrew שְ&#14 73;או& #1465;ל Šʾôl), translated as "grave", "pit", or "abode of the dead", is the Old Testament/Hebrew Bible's underworld, a place of darkness to which all the dead go, both the righteous and the unrighteous, regardless of the moral choices made in life, a place of stillness and darkness cut off from God.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheol
Ecclesiastes 9:5
4For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion. 5For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
"but the dead no not anything"
The Hebrew concept of hell is not one of torture...but one of nothingness or death.

Well would rather go into nothingness then spend all eternity bowing and signing a egomanics praises.

[woodtick57]

xxxooxxx wrote:

Hell is translated from the Hebrew word sheol...
She'ol (pron.:/ˈʃi ːoʊl/ SHEE-ohl or /ˈʃi&#72 0;əl/ SHEE-əl; Hebrew שְ&#14 73;או& #1465;ל Šʾôl), translated as "grave", "pit", or "abode of the dead", is the Old Testament/Hebrew Bible's underworld, a place of darkness to which all the dead go, both the righteous and the unrighteous, regardless of the moral choices made in life, a place of stillness and darkness cut off from God.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheol
Ecclesiastes 9:5
4For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion. 5For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
"but the dead no not anything"
The Hebrew concept of hell is not one of torture...but one of nothingness or death.

One could even throw in Dante's frosen hell as a summation of those...

again that would be your mythical god weilding some huge powere jsut to be vindictive to puny humans that didn't worship him properly..
yet you said god didn't do that...

please clarify the error in your theology.

[xxxooxxx]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>"Juuuuust a bit outside. Tried for the corner and missed"
i live in the far north woods in a little shack off the grid. you really, really could not be more wrong.
it would seem you are the joke.

so you were raised in the woods?...lol...never went to school?

[xxxooxxx]

sickofit wrote:

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Well would rather go into nothingness then spend all eternity bowing and signing a egomanics praises.

free will gives you that choice...

But I must say your idea of heaven is quite archaic.

[woodtick57]

xxxooxxx wrote:

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so you were raised in the woods?...lol...never went to school?

nope, i obviously went to a lot of really good schools. then i gave up on the materialistic life you probably lead.

this is why i can see through you lamne attempts at covering up the holes in your cults theology.

movie time for me...apparantly study time for you..

keep at it, the more you learn, the less you will be a cult member. the future is bright!

[xxxooxxx]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>One could even throw in Dante's frosen hell as a summation of those...
again that would be your mythical god weilding some huge powere jsut to be vindictive to puny humans that didn't worship him properly..
yet you said god didn't do that...
please clarify the error in your theology.

It seem to me the error is yours...like I said, do a little research.

[sickofit]

xxxooxxx wrote:

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free will gives you that choice...
But I must say your idea of heaven is quite archaic.

So then the bible is archaic?? that is whee I took it from...Anyway god is not real adn even if he is I AM NOT A SLAVE AND WONT BOW DOWN AND GROVEL.....You can if you want...Not for me.

[xxxooxxx]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>So there is no plan for humanity or the universe or anything at all? just freewheelinfun for the whole family? your cult disagrees with that point...

Are you referring to the space time continuum, which contain the past present and future...a concept propagated by the bible thousands of years ago?

[xxxooxxx]

"God is subtle but he is not malicious."

-Albert Einstein

[sickofit]

xxxooxxx wrote:

"God is subtle but he is not malicious."
-Albert Einstein

So flooding the world and killing people in that flood was so kind of him??? Also curseing man with sickness and hardship is so kind??? Also if dont follow his every word you are punished forever????

OH YEA WHAT A KIND GOD YOU HAVE THERE.

[xxxooxxx]

sickofit wrote:

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So flooding the world and killing people in that flood was so kind of him??? Also curseing man with sickness and hardship is so kind??? Also if dont follow his every word you are punished forever????
OH YEA WHAT A KIND GOD YOU HAVE THERE.

"Give the devil his due"

[KittenKoder]

FREE SERVANT wrote:

<quoted text>OK, sorry about that. It's the other Evo minions I was referring to then. ;)

Then show where I have stated it.

[KittenKoder]

xxxooxxx wrote:

"God is subtle but he is not malicious."
-Albert Einstein

Well, thank you for admitting that Einstein didn't follow your bible nonsense.

[woodtick57]

xxxooxxx wrote:

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Are you referring to the space time continuum, which contain the past present and future...a concept propagated by the bible thousands of years ago?

Space time contains the future in a known way? where did you get that from?

and no, that is not what i was refering to. i was refering to the theological conundrum of your mythical god giving man free will, yet supposedly knowing mankinds' outcome. they can't both be true. another lie your cult is based on...

why do you keep hanging on to a book you know lied to you so often? deprogramming from cults is effective...try it.

[Charles Idemi]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>no, he was just a human that people used for their own personal wants and desires.
his story is just a re-hash of previous religious cult myths. you cannot get around this fact. your 'god' was recycled from previous cultures' trash...

Dreaming!

[Charles Idemi]

thewordofme wrote:

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Don't forget Allah.

That is the just the way the muslims see God, but God is never warlike.
Initially, that was what the Hebrews thought about God until their re-orientations. The muslims are still holding to the old form of viewing God, due to their Hebrew's influence.

[Charles Idemi]

thewordofme wrote:

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Just like we can rule out the existence of Zeus, Vishnu, Neptune, etc., etc., we can rule out the existence of Yahweh, Elohim, and El.
They all have NO hard evidence for their existence

I have talked about that/ this previously in one of my post.
All those, are gods or goddesses that the Romans, Greeks, Indians, etc, worshipped through the most High God.
God is just one. Others are sub gods or goddesses.

[Charles Idemi]

thewordofme wrote:

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I keep telling you Charles....Adam and Eve never existed. Truth.

Halt!
And i keep telling you Bill...
You can rule out the possibility or existence of a first man and woman.

[Charles Idemi]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>why do you keep using that word when it has been clearly pointed out you do not know what it truly means?

Ask yourself that question.
You guys always brag about things you know nothing about.
Now tell me, how did the universe came into form?

[Charles Idemi]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>Same god that Chaz worships, so it falls under the yawhooo name, or whatever it is...
when you think about cult fundamentalists like Chip, it is easy to see their relation to the islamic fundamentalists...
same mythical god, same whackjobs...

That is just the way they see God, but we Christians sees God in a different light.
Islam is a religion influenced by Judaism blended with Arabic culture.