Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 204731 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Best of New Orleans.

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

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#77853 Feb 28, 2013
sickofit wrote:
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Your god is a nazi pig...If he is even real....He is mean and if you dont bow down he smashes you..OH YEA SO NICE....NOT.......
Well, you didn't really address any of the finer points of my post, so I can't really believe you're much of a Libertarian. Maybe you're just in it for the pot?

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#77854 Feb 28, 2013
Edgar wrote:
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So wait - you've just arrived to a claim and the way you intend to prove it's true is by exposing his lack of capability to prove that it isn't?
Sorry, but that doesn't fly in the world of experimentation. You don't just say "I think that toothbrushes are really high-intelligence robots planning to take over society," and then when people call it crazy, say, "Well prove it isn't true!"
You don't assume and then make others disprove your assumptions. You research and then come to a conclusion. That's why religion and science can never integrate. If you follow the Bible religiously then your mind is already made up. There's no room for experimenting. You can't expand from it.
Dude, what are you talking about?

Either the universe is an accident (or always existed), or it was created (not speculating on the creator.)

You may assert one or the other, and provide evidence. Which has already been done.

There is zero evidence of accident, or that the universe has always existed. There is plenty of evidence of it being started, or created, at some point.

I need not make any assertions, they have already been made by COUNTLESS scientists for 300 years or more.

Have you anything to add, or are you just venting?

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

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#77855 Feb 28, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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Wrong.
Again.
"Argument from Authority" would have been a proper rebuke if I claimed that Chef Gordon Ramsay, said that science supported the Theory of Evolution, or that the Top Ten NASCAR drivers all supported the ToE. Providing they are not also considered experts in the biological sciences, then using them as "authorities" in that regard would be fallacious.
Instead YOU said that science didn't support the Theory of Evolution. Using the sources I provided showed without a doubt that science DOES support the Theory of Evolution.
I proved you wrong.
Wrong.

Your sources show the scientific COMMUNITY supporting evolution.

Not the scientific method.

There is a huge difference.

Get it right, and quit playing games with me, King Kong.

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#77856 Feb 28, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Really...every scientific organization on EARTH has this same alternate interpretation and is trying to fool the public??
Are you familiar with paranoia??
Fool the public?

Good grief, man! No one is claiming a conspiracy theory here.

I just know for a fact that human nature easily corrupts the scientific method with bias and politics. And so, many theories have come and gone over the ages.

Like eugenics, and static-state theory.

It's not a conspiracy, silly, it's just new evidence or facts, or a lack thereof. Evolution simply has no scientific evidence, get over it. Why does the scientific community still support it after a 150 years of failing to find evidence?

That's what I'd like to know. Got any idea why billions of dollars and countless years of science is being wasted?

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#77857 Feb 28, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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I'm kind of hoping we can get him to segue into the subject of pole dancing. He's a natural.
Right. From the north pole to the south pole at 23 degree angle.

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#77858 Feb 28, 2013
Is this seriously an issue? I mean beyond a few fundies stirring up trouble. Creationism is clearly just a myth.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

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Orlando

#77859 Feb 28, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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Wrong.
Your sources show the scientific COMMUNITY supporting evolution.
Not the scientific method.
There is a huge difference.
Get it right, and quit playing games with me, King Kong.
Hey Dummy....

The "Scientific Method" cannot respond to your questions any more than "Science" can.

Therefore, the individuals that most USE the Scientific Method (Scientists) are the best resource to employ in responding to your concern about the support of the Theory of Evolution by Science.

Face it.
You painted yourself in a corner.
No escape.
You lost.

Putz.

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#77860 Feb 28, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Right!!!
Dream on.
Uh huh, and how much science do you deny?

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#77861 Feb 28, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You got me wrong, but what i was trying to explain, was the evidence of a spirit, demons we all know are spirits, so, if we can dream, then there is a tendency that demons do exist.
Woodtick 57: Demons, we all know are myths. there is no logical reason to think that since animals dream there are spirits or demons. that really is 5th century thinking you doing, chuck.

Now he's quoting from the quraan or rather hadith...it get's weirder by the post.
pg 3679

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#77862 Feb 28, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
Is this seriously an issue? I mean beyond a few fundies stirring up trouble. Creationism is clearly just a myth.
No. Creation is a fact. The bible is a myth. Use your head.

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#77863 Feb 28, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Of course I understand the point is do you actually understand – I think not
You are making a statement based on bronze age mythology and expect everyone to bow down and worship goddidt because you do
Thousands of gods have been defeated, more by inaction than conquest, tell me how many people worship Ra now, or Aten or Thor, or Mbombo or Borr or Anu or Venus – all forgotten except for archaeological curiosity, in the art world and some minor cults
How about Sheela na Gig, a common deity in the christian faith, to the extent that her image can be found in thousands of christian churches that you and just about every other christian knows fook all about, yet another forgotten and defeated god.
There are more than 3700+ named deities, many of them long gone from memory, yours is just one more. Faith (FAITH)– F – A – I – T – H – in that god is declining at an alarming rate. Ask your church leaders to tell you the truth (or look on the internet) and I believe you will be astounded by the rapid decline in christianity, assuming of course that you don’t stick your head in the sand and you accept what your church leaders tell you
Yes and so are you going to end up adding nutrients to the earth as are we all. I have already explained this to you so why do you feel the need to threaten me with what is going to happen anyway?
Sheela-na-Gig as in before you could establish a church you needed permission from the local Lady, hence also the outspoken sexual imagery on churches. The womb is declared open.
They removed this imagery not so long ago, but about two generation have grown up entirely clueless of the tradition that no church could be built or established without the local mistress permission!

Christine if you have some interesting reading material then i'm a welcome receiver.

And it drives Langoliers with his holier than though, but don't know the bible really attitude, up the pole.;p

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#77864 Feb 28, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Uh huh, and how much science do you deny?
How much do you know beyond Science?

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Evolution is true.....

#77865 Feb 28, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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Fool the public?
Good grief, man! No one is claiming a conspiracy theory here.
I just know for a fact that human nature easily corrupts the scientific method with bias and politics. And so, many theories have come and gone over the ages.
Like eugenics, and static-state theory.
It's not a conspiracy, silly, it's just new evidence or facts, or a lack thereof. Evolution simply has no scientific evidence, get over it. Why does the scientific community still support it after a 150 years of failing to find evidence?
That's what I'd like to know. Got any idea why billions of dollars and countless years of science is being wasted?
Perhaps you missed my earlier post... back one page I think. Here it is again:
Signs of recent evolution by natural selection are widespread across the human genome, experts say.
Genome researchers at the University of Chicago have identified more than 700 regions in human DNA where apparently strong selection has occurred, driving the spread of genes linked to a broad range of characteristics.
"These are very recent events—within the past ten thousand years," said Jonathan Pritchard, a geneticist whose laboratory team conducted the study.
The results suggest that humans in different regions have continued to adapt in numerous ways to both environmental changes and cultural innovations.
Full Article: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/...

Five Proofs of Evolution: http://www.evolutionfaq.com/articles/five-pro...
The Probability of Life: http://www.evolutionfaq.com/articles/probabil...

Lines of evidence: The science of evolution: http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/arti...
National Academy of Sciences information on evolution:
http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/ne...

Scientific proof is not a problem for evolution is has tremendous proof behind it. The problem is creotards constantly bickering about it and trying to convince the stupid people that its not true.

Lying for Jesus again...you people are so wrong and evil.

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#77866 Feb 28, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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No. Creation is a fact. The bible is a myth. Use your head.
Uh, Cybele we are using all the heads that use the scientific method. That method is self-correcting and adds knowledge when properly applied.

(If they organize themselves in organizations does not mean that the organisation get's more or less sciency...who was the idiot with that argument.:[.

And just because we've not gotten around (or at least i have the intention) to nicely line up how we got from amino-acids to humans does not mean we have not figured it out.

Not even the hebrew bible states creation, nor does it give a timeline.
So we are up against church-father persecution and rammed down our throat interpretations.

Nasty.

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#77867 Feb 28, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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How much do you know beyond Science?
Enough, but this is a science debate right now.

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#77868 Feb 28, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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How much do you know beyond Science?
How do you define creation?
If not the bible, if not some outerworld intelligence.

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#77869 Feb 28, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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Perhaps you missed my earlier post... back one page I think. Here it is again:
Signs of recent evolution by natural selection are widespread across the human genome, experts say.
Genome researchers at the University of Chicago have identified more than 700 regions in human DNA where apparently strong selection has occurred, driving the spread of genes linked to a broad range of characteristics.
"These are very recent events—within the past ten thousand years," said Jonathan Pritchard, a geneticist whose laboratory team conducted the study.
The results suggest that humans in different regions have continued to adapt in numerous ways to both environmental changes and cultural innovations.
Full Article: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/...
Five Proofs of Evolution: http://www.evolutionfaq.com/articles/five-pro...
The Probability of Life: http://www.evolutionfaq.com/articles/probabil...
Lines of evidence: The science of evolution: http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/arti...
National Academy of Sciences information on evolution:
http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/ne...
Scientific proof is not a problem for evolution is has tremendous proof behind it. The problem is creotards constantly bickering about it and trying to convince the stupid people that its not true.
Lying for Jesus again...you people are so wrong and evil.
Who ever said natural selection is not a fact? It is. What you don't have is DNA proof of how one species evolved into another. But you evolutionists are so predictable. You're going to giver reference to all kinds of fossil records which is rare. How do you explain the evolution of flowers and bees and the process of pollination?

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#77870 Feb 28, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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How do you define creation?
If not the bible, if not some outerworld intelligence.
MAAT, reproduction is a form of creation. Invention of tools is a form of creation. It's just a logical explanation for existence of the universe. Natural process is not excuse for these evolutionists that we were not created because sex that leads to reproduction is also a natural process.

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#77871 Feb 28, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Who ever said natural selection is not a fact? It is. What you don't have is DNA proof of how one species evolved into another. But you evolutionists are so predictable. You're going to giver reference to all kinds of fossil records which is rare. How do you explain the evolution of flowers and bees and the process of pollination?
But we do! Fossils are rare in any case.

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#77872 Feb 28, 2013
The story of Adam and Eve is just sex ed for all of you unless you want monkey porn.

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