Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 195615 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Best of New Orleans.

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

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Albuquerque, NM

#77791 Feb 28, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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Lie.
A SMALL sample of scientific organizations that support the teaching of Evolution in public schools:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientif...
The American Association for the Advancement of Science is the world's largest general scientific society. The AAAS serves some 262 affiliated societies and academies of science, serving 10 million individuals. A 2002 statement states: "[T]he lack of scientific warrant for so-called 'intelligent design theory' makes it improper to include as a part of science education."[1]
A 2006 statement on the teaching of evolution: "Some bills seek to discredit evolution by emphasizing so-called "flaws" in the theory of evolution or "disagreements" within the scientific community. Others insist that teachers have absolute freedom within their classrooms and cannot be disciplined for teaching non-scientific “alternatives” to evolution. A number of bills require that students be taught to "critically analyze" evolution or to understand "the controversy." But there is no significant controversy within the scientific community about the validity of the theory of evolution. The current controversy surrounding the teaching of evolution is not a scientific one."[2]
American Association of University Professors is an organization of professors and other academics in the United States. AAUP membership is about 47,000, with over 500 local campus chapters and 39 state organizations.[4] "deplores efforts in local communities and by some state legislators to require teachers in public schools to treat evolution as merely a hypothesis or speculation, untested and unsubstantiated by the methods of science, and to require them to make students aware of an "intelligent-design hypothesis" to account for the origins of life. These initiatives not only violate the academic freedom of public school teachers, but can deny students an understanding of the overwhelming scientific consensus regarding evolution."[5]
American Astronomical Society is an American society of professional astronomers and other interested individuals, with over 7,000 members and six divisions. "Intelligent Design" fails to meet the basic definition of a scientific idea: its proponents do not present testable hypotheses and do not provide evidence for their views that can be verified or duplicated by subsequent researchers. Since "Intelligent Design" is not science, it does not belong in the science curriculum of the nation’s primary and secondary schools."[9]
American Chemical Society is a scientific society that supports scientific inquiry in the field of chemistry, with more than 164,000 members at all degree-levels and in all fields of chemistry, chemical engineering, and related fields. It is the world's largest scientific society and one of the leading sources of authoritative scientific information.[10] "urges... State and local education authorities to support high-quality science standards and curricula that affirm evolution as the only scientifically accepted explanation for the origin and diversity of species."[11]
American Geophysical Union The AGU represents over 43,000 Earth and space scientists. "Advocates of intelligent design believe that life on Earth is too complex to have evolved on its own and must therefore be the work of a designer. That is an untestable belief and, therefore, cannot qualify as a scientific theory." [12]
<<cont'd>>
Looks like I caught you lying.

Here is my post again:

I have no mythology.
Modern day science does not support evolution, no more than science supported flat-earth.

I stated SCIENCE, NOT A SCIENTIFIC ORGANIZATION, does not support evolution. Organizations are human, and easily influenced, and have agendas.

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

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Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#77792 Feb 28, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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So you make the claim now please advise of evidence (any evidence) that confirms religious beliefs?
There are 38000+ different cults of christianity, my betting is you are a member of one of those cults.
This is an Evolution v. Creation discussion, not a theological discussion on beliefs.

I make no claim. And I support neither evolution or creation, and neither has any scientific evidence, and all data is subject to alternative interpretations.

“A stitch in time...”

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#77793 Feb 28, 2013
sickofit wrote:
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You believe in stuff that is not there and in myths and a fairytale.
How is your big daddy sky jew doing today..What has he said to you today??? last week??? last year???? WHAT YOU HAVE NEVER SO MUCH AS SEEN OR HEARD A SINGLE PEEP FROM HIM??????????
Ok two thousand years and no shred of prrof your cults god is real...HOW ABOUT SOME PROOF.
...and why do you ask me for proof?

why not ask him?

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

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Albuquerque, NM

#77794 Feb 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>No that is the method for evolution. adaption to one's environment.
Not at all. Adaptation cannot change a species from one to another. The adaptation is already a part of its existing nature and DNA. Adaptation has absolutely nothing to do with evolution.

You are either ignorant of evolution and the model, or lying. Which is it?

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

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#77795 Feb 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>hardly dishonest at all. it is you that is beoing dishonest with yourself if you do not admit that religions are all cults. that is exactly what a cult is. it is why we made up that word...
http://www.differencebetween.net/miscellaneou...

Educate yourself.

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

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#77796 Feb 28, 2013
milwaukee69 wrote:
Religion is a crutch for the insecure.
Really?

It's hard being a Christian. Much easier to not be one. I don't think you know what you are talking about, do you?

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

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#77797 Feb 28, 2013
sickofit wrote:
Religion is also a shield for hate and bigotry.
Just certain ones, like Islam.
sickofit

Northfield, MN

#77798 Feb 28, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
...and why do you ask me for proof?
why not ask him?
You religous people want to force us all to follow your cult so we want proof of your cults god being real..

Oh and if god was real he would answer me. Since he does not he is not real. SIMPLE.

If I said space aliens were real you would want proof....SAME SAME MORON.

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

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#77799 Feb 28, 2013
sickofit wrote:
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God has hurt us and even killed tortured and destroyed us ....If he is real.
Oh and you god plans mean I must falld won be a slave and grovel at his feet....and my reward will be an eternity of bowing dwon and signing praises of your god..NO THANKS....I LIKE FREEDOM.
And yet, I bet you are a Democrat, and a Liberal, willing to be enslaved to the State, ideology, and sacrifice your liberties for the happiness of any minority that complains, right?

Sorry, I'll take being a slave of God over being a slave of the State, or the People's whims, any day.
sickofit

Northfield, MN

#77800 Feb 28, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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Just certain ones, like Islam.
Christians spew tons of hate also...JUST LISTEN TO GOP FAR RIGHT...
sickofit

Northfield, MN

#77801 Feb 28, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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Really?
It's hard being a Christian. Much easier to not be one. I don't think you know what you are talking about, do you?
Really??? You christians own and rule the world with iron nazi fist......Dont say that BS...

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

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#77802 Feb 28, 2013
JM_Brazil wrote:
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My cousin and I are the same age, and growing up we both studied very hard. He became a mechanical engineer, and I electrical. He started off on a very successful career, and one day simply decided to give up everything, and become a Priest. He's a brilliant man, passionate at everything he does, and took the whole ordainment very seriously. He has now been a Catholic Priest for the past 20+ years. I myself am a born Catholic, but not a practicing one. I believe in God in my own way, and think religion is something personal, which should be kept to one's self, but there is nothing I enjoy more than discussing religion with my cousin. He still has an engineer's perspective on matters, and approches religion as an engineer would. I of course stick with Evolution and he Creation (even though i feel he still harbors a secret reservation for the BB). Needless to say it makes for a good quality, family argument.
Then you are a victim of bad Catholicism for the last 150 years.

One, religion cannot be personal. If one knows the truth, then you have an obligation to share it, and enlighten others, which is exactly what Jesus taught. If you believe in God, then you'd be proclaiming that, and attempting to persuade others.

And a day will come when you will have to accept your cousin's honest attempt to save your soul and take him seriously, or admit that you despise him and his faith. Either your cousin is right, or he is wrong. There is no middle ground. Either you are right, or you are wrong, but your cousin has more than enough evidence to prove you are wrong ... if you but listen.

God bless.

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#77803 Feb 28, 2013
sickofit wrote:
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You religous people want to force us all to follow your cult so we want proof of your cults god being real..
Oh and if god was real he would answer me. Since he does not he is not real. SIMPLE.
If I said space aliens were real you would want proof....SAME SAME MORON.
did you ask him?

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

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#77804 Feb 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Don't be so polite..
the god of the bible would be in jail in our society. the mythical god of the bible was a jealous, vindictive, petty little prick who would have had his kids taken away by child services in any modern, rational society.
and these cult members worship this shit...
sad...very sad...
Oh?

So Jesus gave you that impression, eh?

Not sacrifice, love, healing the sick, preaching of loving thy neighbor, and taking care of your family?

My, I think you are right. He would be hated by most gays, liberals, and the Media. You might be on to something!
sickofit

Northfield, MN

#77805 Feb 28, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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And yet, I bet you are a Democrat, and a Liberal, willing to be enslaved to the State, ideology, and sacrifice your liberties for the happiness of any minority that complains, right?
Sorry, I'll take being a slave of God over being a slave of the State, or the People's whims, any day.
I am a Libertarian(REAL CONSERVATIVE). I love freedom and equality and justice for all...That is why religion to me is evil.

To me the government needs to be shrunk 70% and spend 70% less and get rid of 70% of laws...

Now what???

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#77806 Feb 28, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like I caught you lying.
Here is my post again:
I have no mythology.
Modern day science does not support evolution, no more than science supported flat-earth.
I stated SCIENCE, NOT A SCIENTIFIC ORGANIZATION, does not support evolution. Organizations are human, and easily influenced, and have agendas.
Well, since "Science" does not respond to questions, I can only rely on the the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of PROFESSIONAL SCIENTISTS represented in my post that day in and day out that actually DO science.

Those PROFESSIONAL SCIENTISTS say that modern-day science FULLY supports evolution. As indicated in my post.
Twit.
sickofit

Northfield, MN

#77807 Feb 28, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
did you ask him?
I have asked any god who would answer if they are real for 30 years..NOT ONE ANSWER... Your god must be weak and pathetic if he cant answer or do anything.

Got there number of email addy?????

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#77808 Feb 28, 2013
sickofit wrote:
<quoted text>
I have asked any god who would answer if they are real for 30 years..NOT ONE ANSWER... Your god must be weak and pathetic if he cant answer or do anything.
Got there number of email addy?????
you actually told God they he was weak and pathetic if he didn't answer you?...lol

“I Am No One Else”

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#77809 Feb 28, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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You assertion that people who perceive an intelligence behind the universe, are considered "deluded imbeciles" because of a higher awareness of reality...is quite ironic to say the least...lol
You know that's not what I stated, but if you wish to attempt that route, demonstrate how there is "intelligence behind" the universe, first though, you must explain exactly what you mean by that.

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#77810 Feb 28, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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This is an Evolution v. Creation discussion, not a theological discussion on beliefs.
I make no claim. And I support neither evolution or creation, and neither has any scientific evidence, and all data is subject to alternative interpretations.
You clearly have not studied anything scientific.

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