Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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#77204 Feb 23, 2013
TaylorChristineCreations wrote:
Christianity is all about money all they want is your money every church you go to they will ask you to make money donations am tell you it's for the church or some charity but they keep a lot of the money for themselves. Ever been to a preachers house? They have nice big houses nice clothes expensive things, why? Because you idiotic. Christians just throw money at them hoping that will get you into a place of eternal happiness which by the way doesn't exist. Ever notice how every Christian is either a criminal of some sort, a child predator, or someone who had a really bad childhood. They think praying will make everything better for them an some will have there stories how they triumphed over everything bad by having faith in The Lord but no god didn't help them god didn't help you he's not real. If you tell yourself your going to do something over and over and over again (I.e praying) then eventually it will happen its like setting a goal for yourself. It's you that's helping yourself not an "all loving, homosexual hating man in the sky"
you watch to much tv...lol

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#77205 Feb 23, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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The basic Buddhist concept of the Universe is one of a intrinsical natural intelligence...
...not to be confused with modern day materialist atheism.
Aren't you confusing hinduism or even the orrible Brahmism with buddhism?
Apropos the bhagavat gita was probably written 150 CE, since that is the time the immigrated (~150 BC) arian (small province in ancient Iran) cow- and horseherds adapted an Indian language to write sanskrit. And then killed the buddhist and created an ancient history for themseves.
A prof has studied this extensively.

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#77206 Feb 23, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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Aren't you confusing hinduism or even the orrible Brahmism with buddhism?
Apropos the bhagavat gita was probably written 150 CE, since that is the time the immigrated (~150 BC) arian (small province in ancient Iran) cow- and horseherds adapted an Indian language to write sanskrit. And then killed the buddhist and created an ancient history for themseves.
A prof has studied this extensively.
no...I'm talking core belief. although it has intermingled with other religious beliefs...

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#77207 Feb 23, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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Believe...attributions: the truth, what one loves, what one cherishes.
God is real: is giving it a value.
And then we see another set of attributions.
Believe is not based on general concepts, or material knowledge. Some people believe in the devil, a little purple stone, magic.
And they could make the same claims you made, saying it is their believe, god...etc.
We are strugging for pages now , getting you to understand that believe is nothing but the few ideas you dress it up with.
Mind i'm not saying it is meaningless. But to each it's own.
But science can be counted upon.
In summary, science can not answer everything.
How the universe came into is yet to understood by science.

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#77208 Feb 23, 2013
Typo:
I meant, how the universe came into form, is yet to be understood by science.

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In the macro world.

#77209 Feb 23, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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Talk about serendipidous epiphanies.
Immediate schism.;p
Ofcourse they were real.
The question is whether they were good believers.
Oh.

That's different.

Never mind.

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In the macro world.

#77210 Feb 23, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> In summary, science can not answer everything.
How the universe came into is yet to understood by science.
Yet.

Big word, there.

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#77211 Feb 23, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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That they all need a creator* because they like a clean place to put their prostrated body, so goo-ists ideas are out.
*I go by a crater with hot pool on the continent and Montmorillion soil.
so your saying you we evolved from un-intelligence goo...more or less?

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#77212 Feb 23, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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so your saying you we evolved from un-intelligence goo...more or less?
Even if that be the case...I fail to see how anyone could consider the process from goo, to complexity of life on earth as a un-intelligence process...it's completely irrational.
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#77213 Feb 23, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>Did we have gay dinosaurs?

We best leave these theological issues to Charles.
Why of course there were gay dino's
Whether you had one or not, I would guess not.

Sorry Matt only the dumbest trolls get to own gay dinosaurs.

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#77214 Feb 23, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> In summary, science can not answer everything.
How the universe came into is yet to understood by science.
Science can not correct your statements. It strives.;p
There are a lot of theories, but suppose we figure it out, uh science figures it out, then you will still owe us the answers to the theological questions about the dinosaurs!

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#77215 Feb 23, 2013
Like I said before...pretty much all core religious beliefs are based on the recognition of the the intrinsic obvious intelligent processes that are plainly recognizable all around us...

Science fails to directly address these processes...by simply calling them "natural"?...why?



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#77216 Feb 23, 2013
anunnaki wrote:
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Why of course there were gay dino's
Whether you had one or not, I would guess not.
Sorry Matt only the dumbest trolls get to own gay dinosaurs.
I say!
We had troll's owning gay dinosours?
How do you know that?
And how do you know that was dumb?
Where was that written that dumb get's you a gay religious dino?

Oops sorry, that were three-in-one theological questions Charles still had to answer.

I suppose the troll's went along as ballast stones on the ark.

But the creation museum has dinosaurs!

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#77217 Feb 23, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Oh.
That's different.
Never mind.
lol
you have a nice touch of dry humour.
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#77218 Feb 23, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>I say!
We had troll's owning gay dinosours?
How do you know that?
And how do you know that was dumb?
Where was that written that dumb get's you a gay religious dino?

Oops sorry, that were three-in-one theological questions Charles still had to answer.

I suppose the troll's went along as ballast stones on the ark.

But the creation museum has dinosaurs!
I see you're upset. I'll see what I can do to get you a gay dinosaur.

There feel better?
anunnaki

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#77219 Feb 23, 2013
"The term "Planet X" refers to the search for another planet beyond Pluto through mainstream scientific efforts. The space probes sent out by NASA, mainly Voyager, and Pioneer, detected perturbations in the outer planets which suggested that there is still another planet, or heavenly body beyond Pluto that is affecting the orbits of the outer planets. Some of the latest public knowledge about this research done by NASA was conducted by Dr. Robert Harrington, who was the lead astronomer at NASA's Naval Observatory in Washington.(now deceased)

The Planet X searched for by astronomers during the last two or three decades is the planet that was believed to be affecting the orbit of Neptune - once the effects of Uranus on Neptune had been taken into account. Lowell and several other astronomers made extensive searches and calculations in the region of sky that they had calculated as the position for the missing planet.

Then, Sept 30, 1846 --- one week after the discovery of Neptune, Le Verrier declared that there may be still another unknown planet out there. On October 10, Neptune's large moon Triton was discovered, which yielded an easy way to accurately determine the mass of Neptune, which turned out to be 2% larger than expected from the perturbations upon Uranus. Finally, astronomer Tombaugh found Pluto in 1930 - albeit six degrees away from the calculated point of their search for another planet beyond Neptune at that time.

It was quickly realized that Pluto was too small to have the supposed gravitational effect on Neptune, and so the search went on beyond Pluto, for yet one more missing planet, that we know call Planet X."

http://xfacts.com/xnews/index.html

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#77220 Feb 23, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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so your saying you we evolved from un-intelligence goo...more or less?
Yes.
Frankly we have it pretty much all figured out.
Just haven't gotten to the point of summarizing it all.
(It involves a lot of scrolling over various lines, for the peer-reviewed science publications)
But the more you know, the more questions you end up having.
So at a certain point you have to decide when enough is enough.

But if meteorites and other space goo can do it then why should earth-goo not be able to do it!
The latter would be the underying assumption of your theory.
So you would have to proof that there is something so particular about earth that life could not have formed.

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#77221 Feb 23, 2013
anunnaki wrote:
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I see you're upset. I'll see what I can do to get you a gay dinosaur.
There feel better?
And a boat...please?
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#77222 Feb 23, 2013
"Stories throughout the english version of the bible, today's modern version, speak of many events that changed the coarse of humanity in our past. If we look at the stories in the bible as historical accounts of what actually took place, then we need to research the origins of these stories. The hebrew version of the bible, known as the Old Testament, which is a much older version than the english translation, is derived from the stories of the Sumerian Culture. When we trace the origins of the Old testament we can see that it is also based on previous translations from subsequent older languages throughout history.

The Sumerian culture, the first civilization to invent writing as a complete written language, recorded stories that have been preserved through the modern day biblical passages found in the Old and New testament. All of which speak of a time when man lived among their living gods here on earth. The Sumerians had 7 sacred tablets that explained our creation. These stories preserved in stone, are now told to us in the form of the english version, "7 days of creation"."

http://xfacts.com/xnews/index.html

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#77223 Feb 23, 2013
anunnaki wrote:
"The term "Planet X" refers to the search for another planet beyond Pluto through mainstream scientific efforts. The space probes sent out by NASA, mainly Voyager, and Pioneer, detected perturbations in the outer planets which suggested that there is still another planet, or heavenly body beyond Pluto that is affecting the orbits of the outer planets. Some of the latest public knowledge about this research done by NASA was conducted by Dr. Robert Harrington, who was the lead astronomer at NASA's Naval Observatory in Washington.(now deceased)
The Planet X searched for by astronomers during the last two or three decades is the planet that was believed to be affecting the orbit of Neptune - once the effects of Uranus on Neptune had been taken into account. Lowell and several other astronomers made extensive searches and calculations in the region of sky that they had calculated as the position for the missing planet.
Then, Sept 30, 1846 --- one week after the discovery of Neptune, Le Verrier declared that there may be still another unknown planet out there. On October 10, Neptune's large moon Triton was discovered, which yielded an easy way to accurately determine the mass of Neptune, which turned out to be 2% larger than expected from the perturbations upon Uranus. Finally, astronomer Tombaugh found Pluto in 1930 - albeit six degrees away from the calculated point of their search for another planet beyond Neptune at that time.
It was quickly realized that Pluto was too small to have the supposed gravitational effect on Neptune, and so the search went on beyond Pluto, for yet one more missing planet, that we know call Planet X."
http://xfacts.com/xnews/index.html
From the latest on mercury we know it drifted in.

But i would have to read up, as to what the perturbations could be attributed to.

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