Evolution vs. Creation

[Cybele]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>yes it can. a proton and an electron. no prime matter found yet,a s far as i know, or you it seems...

It just shows you how hydrogen was formed. Has anyone found quarks? So how did scientists find the top quark on the higgs-boson?

[MAAT]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>money is being spent on finding prime matter? where?

At the local gazz station to fill up on hydrogen.

[Langoliers]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>Most recent polls show the number of non-believers in the US to be far far higher than 2%...

The United States of America Central Intelligent's Agency says that the population of the worlds ATHEIST is at 2.04%. Almost non-existent.

I'll take their word for it.

[woodtick57]

Cybele wrote:

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It just shows you how hydrogen was formed. Has anyone found quarks? So how did scientists find the top quark on the higgs-boson?

We know quarks exist by measuring their electric charge.

sorry charlie....

where is this supposed prime matter again? why can't you answer this simple quetion?

[woodtick57]

Cybele wrote:

<quoted text>
Ok here.
HYDROGEN = 1 proton + 1 electron, 0 neutrons
prime matter was split into a negative and positive charge particles, one repelled, one attracted
the positive charge attracted prime matter particles
1 proton = 918 prime matter particles
(which is 1838 the electron weight)
HYDROGEN = PRIME MATTER

No, some theory states that hydrogen has prime matter in it. no proof of it anywhere that you can find...

[woodtick57]

Langoliers wrote:

<quoted text>
The United States of America Central Intelligent's Agency says that the population of the worlds ATHEIST is at 2.04%. Almost non-existent.
I'll take their word for it.

Most people that are free thinkers or nonbelievers don't call themselves atheist, much like I have been telling you for years.

i would never answer a poll saying i was an ateist because i am not one.

[Langoliers]

Subduction Zone wrote:

<quoted text>Most don't. Most are like me and demand evidence.

Do you have any? No.

This was in response to:

"Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> And does not changes the evidence of a God? NO!
There are many physicist that believes in the existence of God. "

who="Subduction Zone"]<quoted text>Most don't. Most are like me and demand evidence.

Do you have any? No.

I then responded to you with this:
"Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmm. SZ babbling BS again. Go figure.

"According to a survey of members of the American Assn. for the Advancement of Science, conducted by the Pew Research Center in May and June this year, a majority of scientists (51%) say they believe in God or a higher power, while 41% say they do not."

I hope this clears the fog in your head a bit.

[MAAT]

Cybele wrote:

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It just shows you how hydrogen was formed. Has anyone found quarks? So how did scientists find the top quark on the higgs-boson?

I'll say read along.
Freeservant too as to the spin-off of what he calles waisted money.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson
New bosons discovered.
'Top' and 'quark' i did however not pay attention too, today.

[Cybele]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>We know quarks exist by measuring their electric charge.

sorry charlie....

where is this supposed prime matter again? why can't you answer this simple quetion?

The same way they measured the proton of hydrogen, the positive charge duh!

[Cybele]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>No, some theory states that hydrogen has prime matter in it. no proof of it anywhere that you can find...

So what other theory is there that explains how electron and proton of the simplest element was formed?

[woodtick57]

Cybele wrote:

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The same way they measured the proton of hydrogen, the positive charge duh!

yes, but the existence of any prime matter was not shown. just some quarks. Did you really understand the video you posted? then why did you post it?

[woodtick57]

Cybele wrote:

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So what other theory is there that explains how electron and proton of the simplest element was formed?

i thought Quarks made up those elements. seems to be the accepted theory.

[MAAT]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>No, some theory states that hydrogen has prime matter in it. no proof of it anywhere that you can find...

That adam in the video commenting is the problem. The very first lines.
I would have spoken about spacefoam and quoted the Perimeter Institute and then on to Promium.

BUT prime matter:
An Aristotelian term for matter prior to its receiving form, sometimes identified with pure extension.

If he had written extensor or existence... but no... lets go for extension...of what?

[woodtick57]

Cybele wrote:

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So what other theory is there that explains how electron and proton of the simplest element was formed?

you do realize a hydrogen atom can exist without your theorized mystery matter, don't you?

[woodtick57]

Cybele wrote:

<quoted text>
The same way they measured the proton of hydrogen, the positive charge duh!

your little video said prime matter had no charge. di you go out for popcorn in the middle again? sheesh!

[MAAT]

Cybele wrote:

<quoted text>
So what other theory is there that explains how electron and proton of the simplest element was formed?

I posted this before a few weeks ago, because it is the most approachable, funny, even though it contains some math.
Well read it this time.
http://www.angmalta.net/clients/alan/existenc...

Or you could read up on Wheeler: Geons, Dark matter and Foamy structure of the universe . 1998
But that 's tough going.
Your question is comparable to an iceberg. 90 percent under water and when it tilts you defenitely do not want to be around.
Or maybe you are of the sturdy stuff.

[MAAT]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>your little video said prime matter had no charge. di you go out for popcorn in the middle again? sheesh!

Laughing...no went to get the popcorn.
A second viewing was indeed needed, not to miss those few seconds.

[MAAT]

woodtick57 wrote:

<quoted text>you do realize a hydrogen atom can exist without your theorized mystery matter, don't you?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/...
gluons quarks
And what to think of 500 forms of matter.

[MikeF]

FREE SERVANT wrote:

<quoted text>Yeah, in threes usually.

Nah. Usually more like C, F, G and F. Then there's C, Am, F & G - which covers most of the 50s.

[woodtick57]

MikeF wrote:

<quoted text>
Nah. Usually more like C, F, G and F. Then there's C, Am, F & G - which covers most of the 50s.

Geez, just hit G, A, then D and you have 300 songs there.