Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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The same way they measured the proton of hydrogen, the positive charge duh!
yes, but the existence of any prime matter was not shown. just some quarks. Did you really understand the video you posted? then why did you post it?

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So what other theory is there that explains how electron and proton of the simplest element was formed?
i thought Quarks made up those elements. seems to be the accepted theory.

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<quoted text>No, some theory states that hydrogen has prime matter in it. no proof of it anywhere that you can find...
That adam in the video commenting is the problem. The very first lines.
I would have spoken about spacefoam and quoted the Perimeter Institute and then on to Promium.

BUT prime matter:
An Aristotelian term for matter prior to its receiving form, sometimes identified with pure extension.

If he had written extensor or existence... but no... lets go for extension...of what?

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So what other theory is there that explains how electron and proton of the simplest element was formed?
you do realize a hydrogen atom can exist without your theorized mystery matter, don't you?

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The same way they measured the proton of hydrogen, the positive charge duh!
your little video said prime matter had no charge. di you go out for popcorn in the middle again? sheesh!

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So what other theory is there that explains how electron and proton of the simplest element was formed?
I posted this before a few weeks ago, because it is the most approachable, funny, even though it contains some math.
Well read it this time.
http://www.angmalta.net/clients/alan/existenc...

Or you could read up on Wheeler: Geons, Dark matter and Foamy structure of the universe . 1998
But that 's tough going.
Your question is comparable to an iceberg. 90 percent under water and when it tilts you defenitely do not want to be around.
Or maybe you are of the sturdy stuff.

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<quoted text>your little video said prime matter had no charge. di you go out for popcorn in the middle again? sheesh!
Laughing...no went to get the popcorn.
A second viewing was indeed needed, not to miss those few seconds.

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<quoted text>you do realize a hydrogen atom can exist without your theorized mystery matter, don't you?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/...
gluons quarks
And what to think of 500 forms of matter.

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<quoted text>Yeah, in threes usually.
Nah. Usually more like C, F, G and F. Then there's C, Am, F & G - which covers most of the 50s.

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Nah. Usually more like C, F, G and F. Then there's C, Am, F & G - which covers most of the 50s.
Geez, just hit G, A, then D and you have 300 songs there.

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<quoted text>your little video said prime matter had no charge. di you go out for popcorn in the middle again? sheesh!
You did not realy understand it, did you? It says it has a positive and negative charge but its fields are intertwined and inward facing. It is "perceived" as neutral so it can't be seen or felt with present instrument.

It basically has the same idea as quarks, but quarks are theorized as little strings, thus the string theory. So if you're confident that quarks exist because it can be measured, why not prime matter?

The video tells you measurement of particles, the positive charge attracted prime matter particles after energy split prime matter into positive and negative charge, a positron and electron. The positron attracted 918 prime matter particles clumped together in 5 layers as neutrinos and became the proton. This proton attracted the electron but kept it at a distance. And this simple element with one proton and one electron is called Hydrogen.

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Geez, just hit G, A, then D and you have 300 songs there.
Easily.

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You did not realy understand it, did you? It says it has a positive and negative charge but its fields are intertwined and inward facing. It is "perceived" as neutral so it can't be seen or felt with present instrument.
It basically has the same idea as quarks, but quarks are theorized as little strings, thus the string theory. So if you're confident that quarks exist because it can be measured, why not prime matter?
The video tells you measurement of particles, the positive charge attracted prime matter particles after energy split prime matter into positive and negative charge, a positron and electron. The positron attracted 918 prime matter particles clumped together in 5 layers as neutrinos and became the proton. This proton attracted the electron but kept it at a distance. And this simple element with one proton and one electron is called Hydrogen.
No, quarks are not theorized as strings outside of string theory.

so it can't be detected, but you know it is there how? again we CAN actually measure quarks electric charge. not your mystery mattter though...

yes we have hydrogen. no need for your mystery matter, just the proton and hte electron...

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gotta get ready to head to arizona.

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You did not realy understand it, did you? It says it has a positive and negative charge but its fields are intertwined and inward facing. It is "perceived" as neutral so it can't be seen or felt with present instrument.
It basically has the same idea as quarks, but quarks are theorized as little strings, thus the string theory. So if you're confident that quarks exist because it can be measured, why not prime matter?
The video tells you measurement of particles, the positive charge attracted prime matter particles after energy split prime matter into positive and negative charge, a positron and electron. The positron attracted 918 prime matter particles clumped together in 5 layers as neutrinos and became the proton. This proton attracted the electron but kept it at a distance. And this simple element with one proton and one electron is called Hydrogen.
It's about the pesky little statements in the beginning. You see the white balls: no charge primal matter (Aristotle);
and then as if 400,000 years did not happen on to promium, from there it's straigh forward.
But fysics worked hard on results as in the two articles form sciendaily i gave. A hot soup of quarks and gluons is the ordinary apprach. And before that branes like geons? Though presumably they needed a colder phase.
Lykken suggest that the higgs-boson all by itself can create a new universe. Well not buying into that one.

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<quoted text>No, quarks are not theorized as strings outside of string theory.
so it can't be detected, but you know it is there how? again we CAN actually measure quarks electric charge. not your mystery mattter though...
yes we have hydrogen. no need for your mystery matter, just the proton and hte electron...
Well that's going to be the debate between scientists.

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It's about the pesky little statements in the beginning. You see the white balls: no charge primal matter (Aristotle);
and then as if 400,000 years did not happen on to promium, from there it's straigh forward.
But fysics worked hard on results as in the two articles form sciendaily i gave. A hot soup of quarks and gluons is the ordinary apprach. And before that branes like geons? Though presumably they needed a colder phase.
Lykken suggest that the higgs-boson all by itself can create a new universe. Well not buying into that one.
Remember when they said that when they turn on the LHC, it will create a mini-blackhole? lol

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Remember when they said that when they turn on the LHC, it will create a mini-blackhole? lol
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Feb 19, 2013
 
Anyone else ever been on the Religion and Spirituality category in Yahoo Answers?
Theists posing questions in that category tend to divide the entire world into Christians and atheists.

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