Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 209693 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#76392 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Interesting!
But sad to say, because they( atheist) hate hearing that, atheism in actual sense, is a religion or faith.
Do you really believe you're helping your religion by posting the things you do?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#76393 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> And again, scientist are divided here, some do believe in the existence of God( theist) while some do not( atheist).
So, you can see clearly your impossible remarks or statement.
Except you'll find that many theist scientists understand the difference between theological claims and scientific claims. Hence they won't often claim "supernatural" events can be verified by science.

Some atheists may argue that some do try when traipsing into the field of apologetics though, so there we go.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#76394 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> And does not changes the evidence of a God? NO!
There are many physicist that believes in the existence of God.
Existence and evidence are two different things.

In 1500 we didn't have evidence of bacteria.

So far no scientist has evidence of God.

Maybe if you wait a while...

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#76395 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Ouch!
You are the same guy that earlier talked about religion, now Mr. Clown, what is your religion?
Among all the world's religion, Christianity stands out most.
LOL!! With over 35,000 different sects world wide the only thing that "stands out" is how much disagreement there is amongst believers!! LOL!
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#76396 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Tell your self that, you lying atheist.
Hey Chucks, why are you, a known and confirmed liar accusing other people of lying?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#76397 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Just grow up you liar!
Even Moses accounts were recorded in the koran( Egyptians are generally Muslims).
I wasn't talking about Muslims in Egypt. I was talking about the ancient Egyptians.
Charles Idemi wrote:
We have been hearing that jargons for over 100 years, but it still does not change the validity of the bible.
So you keep saying, but all I'm doing is pointing out that the Bible's external references are outdone by ancient Egypt.

That means you better pray that the validity of the Bible changes for the better in the future.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#76398 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Irony!
You are a liar for Evolution and the Atheist community.
I don't need to lie to back up my claims.

And I couldn't care less about atheism.

Those are your invented boogeymen.

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#76399 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You are saying that based on your level of orientation. You are indeed a liar, keep it up!
I haven't lied even once in these forums. If you can produce evidence of any lie that i have posted, have at it. You , on the other hand, lie in virtually every post. Why is that?

BTW... You're still a better deterrent for your religion than I'll ever be. Please continue
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#76400 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Ok, you did not lie.
Bingo.
Charles Idemi wrote:
Now give me one inventions to or in your credit?
Sperm-whale portrait on my bedroom curtains, but not sure how that's relevant.
Charles Idemi wrote:
Those Christian scientist that accepts evolution, did not accept evolution at the detriments of their creator( God).
So what? Fact of the matter is they think God did things differently than you do. They also have the added benefit of not needing to deny reality for the sake of their faith.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#76401 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Likewise.
Wrong, I can demonstrate that I understand evidence. I have before for others. Most of you creatards prefer to bask in ignorance. When you want to see the real world contact me.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#76402 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> A church goer or spy, is never a christian.
He is a member of the Zen order and also a Budhist. Period.
No, he is what he says he is. You have no right to say what his religious beliefs are nor how valid.

Despite your monumentally massive ego, you are NOT God's personally-appointed mouthpiece. You're just a nobody who's guilty of religious bigotry.

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#76403 Feb 18, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Do you really believe you're helping your religion by posting the things you do?
I am not saying this inwardly or secretly but openly or outwardly.
Atheism is a religion or faith. Period.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#76404 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> In summary, Harry Porter, a fictional work done by an author, can never be compared to the documented and archaeologically verified history of a nation( Israel).
These people talked about God, and archaeology have confirmed their existence unlike Harry Porter.
No, because all the archaeology in the world is not evidence of invisible Jewish wizards. And in summary, there was VALID archaeological evidence of Harry Potter, which you merely DISMISSED out of hand because more archaeological finds support the Bible.

And I since pointed out in turn that more archaeological finds support ancient Egypt.

You resorted to further dishonesty and started talking about modern Muslims in Egypt.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#76405 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Wrong!
Now show me your evidence? Big bang! Lol
Doesn't work that way. I can't show you an empty pair of hands and claim that fairies don't exist. You have to show me evidence that (a) God DOES exist.

So far you've beaten Harry Potter.

I'm not impressed.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#76406 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> One Point will definitely lead to another, if you don't know.
Where is the archaeological evidence that the characters of Harry Potter's really existed?
Why are you asking for evidence we already provided?

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#76407 Feb 18, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Except you'll find that many theist scientists understand the difference between theological claims and scientific claims. Hence they won't often claim "supernatural" events can be verified by science.
Some atheists may argue that some do try when traipsing into the field of apologetics though, so there we go.
Still no clue. You are indeed CLUELESS.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#76408 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> And again, even if the queen of England, a real person is mentioned, she knows within her self that Harry Potter is a fiction or a fable.
And again, even if Herod, a real person is mentioned, we know that Jesus is a fiction or fable.

See how that works both ways?

The difference being I accept the *possibility* that there *was* a guy who the stories in the Bible were based on.

But then I also accept the possibility that it may have been made up.

Just like how you think every other religion was made up.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#76409 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> A question for you.
If truly we christians are liars, why after a century of your so called enlightenment, you guys are still in the minority?
You're good at lying.(shrug)

You've had millenia of practice.

Oh, couple that with the fact there are plenty of fundies (like you) who are only interested in rationalizing, not verification.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#76410 Feb 18, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> That is why we have two schools under this thoughts:
Theism and Atheism.
Both are irrelevant to science. In science there is only ONE school of thought - the scientific method.

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#76411 Feb 18, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Existence and evidence are two different things.
In 1500 we didn't have evidence of bacteria.
So far no scientist has evidence of God.
Maybe if you wait a while...
You can say that again, but the fact is that, no one can disprove the existence of God.
And again, can any known scientist, create a natural brain? No!
So, without the brain, there are nothing like science or technology. All thanks goes to the most high God.

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