Evolution vs. Creation

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#76151 Feb 15, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>"I don't know" is an honest answer... not that you would know anything about being honest
Wrong!
It is a statement of defeat.
forreal

Sinton, TX

#76152 Feb 15, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, the scientific concensus is that an asteroid about the size of Mt. Everest struck the earth about 65 million years ago. It blew out a crater about 100 miles wide, and produced a variety of effects on a global scale.
Per Wiki: "The impactor had an estimated diameter of 10 km (6.2 mi) and delivered an estimated energy equivalent of 100 teratons of TNT (4.2×1023 J).[21] By contrast, the most powerful man-made explosive device ever detonated, the Tsar Bomba, had a yield of only 57 megatons of TNT (2.4×1017 J),[22] making the Chicxulub impact 2 million times more powerful."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_crater
And the earth went out of Orbit with the impact right!LOLOLOL

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#76153 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Go on with your gibberish, in my life experiences, i have not seen any one defeating the almighty.
Nor have I seen evidence of the Almighty.
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>They will only boast, brag that they are this or that, but only to end up in the grave or being cremated.
Yup. And lying in the graveyards and crematoriums next to we non-believers and skeptics will be the pious and self-sanctimonious Christians.
forreal

Victoria, TX

#76154 Feb 15, 2013
I am a believer now the earth was impact with a Huge Astroid so huge that now we know how the earth got its spin!LOLOLOLOL

“Robert Stevens”

Level 1

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#76155 Feb 15, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>"God the creator" isn't your deity?
Never mind, I was distracted by that.
Okay, where are scientists trying to disprove God the creator?
Actually it is most likely we are in a computor simulation. It would explain why there are no waves, that would result from a big bang.

Level 5

Since: Apr 12

Taizhou, China

#76156 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
Give me three archaeological evidence for Harry Porter?
Will three historical references do the trick?

Nicolas Flammel (c. 1330-1418) was a French scrivener.
Legend shrouded Flammel with supernatural powers by people living in the Seventeenth Century, not by J. K. Rowling.

Paracelsus (1493-1541) was a German Swiss astrologer.

Henry Cornelius Agrippa (1486-1535) was a German astrologer and alchemist.

All three historical figures are mentioned in the Harry Potter books.
You say that if King Herod was an actual person, that proves that the entire Bible is true?
Then if Flamel, Paracelsus, and Agrippa were actual people, why doesn't that prove that the Harry Potter novels are true?
Alien Outlaw

Kansas City, MO

#76157 Feb 15, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>
So how were the aliens made?
As far as the question concerns you are just shifting the problem on someone else's turf.
And then it does not matter what attributes you give it.
But have you read up by now some proper translations of old Akkadian? Guess not.
More important issue...Who made God? How was he made? Humans know the Bible is a real book, they hold it, its an inanimate object. Humans know bones and monkeys are real. Humans know the earth, galaxies and the universe are real. Now, that being said you want proof. Without question, the aliens from the universe are mistaken for God(s) by the primitive human animals. The Bible is the human attempt to forget the truth........"fear of the unknown".Imagine the primitive human animal 2000 years ago having an encounter with an alien being. The alien being first controls the human with mind manipulation. Then allows the human animal to glimpse the aliens world. Then, the human animal knows nobody will believe them. Matter of fact, if they tell the other primitives they will likely be stoned to death, hanged or nailed to a cross. So, instead the primitives humans of the times created a story, the Bible and the rest is history. Even today, the primitives dont believe aliens exist and from what we know they never will. Brainwashing at its finest....thank God!

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The Borderland of Sol

#76158 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> I can write a book and name real places in that book, but i can not name real characters, except i took permissions from them.
Huh. I guess I'd better not refer to Maggie Thatcher next time I write someth...

Ooops.

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The Borderland of Sol

#76159 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Read the bible book of Genesis.
I have.

Claims that he did it - doesn't say how.

That was my question.

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The Borderland of Sol

#76160 Feb 15, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Will three historical references do the trick?
Nicolas Flammel (c. 1330-1418) was a French scrivener.
Legend shrouded Flammel with supernatural powers by people living in the Seventeenth Century, not by J. K. Rowling.
Paracelsus (1493-1541) was a German Swiss astrologer.
Henry Cornelius Agrippa (1486-1535) was a German astrologer and alchemist.
All three historical figures are mentioned in the Harry Potter books.
You say that if King Herod was an actual person, that proves that the entire Bible is true?
Then if Flamel, Paracelsus, and Agrippa were actual people, why doesn't that prove that the Harry Potter novels are true?
Hehehe.

You're going to Hell, you know.

ROFLOL.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#76161 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Ofcourse i agree, the Catholic church then, did alot of bad things to people, but all these, does not change or invalidates the reality of God.
Why would that God of yours sponsor/condone slavery.

Why would that same God stand around and let the 'Only True Church' kill many many thousands of humans in the witch hunts and Inquisitions?
drink the hivE

New York, NY

#76162 Feb 15, 2013
Scientist - My Finding' Are Pointless When Taken Out Of Context.

Media - Scientist Claims "Findings Are Pointless"...

http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/T/a/4/o...

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Since: Apr 12

Taizhou, China

#76163 Feb 15, 2013
H. G. Wells invented a time machine.
The first thing he did was jump in and travel back to Benjamin Franklin’s time.
He said,“Hi! My name is H. G. Wells and I just invented a time machine.
I traveled back here because I wanted to meet you.
I would also like to meet William Shakespeare.
Would you like to meet him too?”

Franklin said,“I believe I would.“
Wells said,“Let’s go.”

So they both hopped into the time machine and traveled back to the early Seventeenth Century.
There, they met William Shakespeare.
They asked him if there were any historical figures which he would like to meet.
Shakespeare said,“I have always wanted to meet Leonardo da Vinci.”
Wells and Franklin agreed that they would, too.
Shakespeare said,“But there is just one problem. What will we do about the language barrier?”
Wells and Franklin looked at each other.
Wells said,“Let’s travel back into the future and see what we can do about that.”

So they all hopped into the time machine and traveled into our time.
They purchased a cell phone and wrote down the number of an Italian interpreter.
While they were in the store, the clerk told the three gentlemen about the Internet and the wonderful role which it plays in communication in all fields of study.

Then they hopped back into the time machine and traveled to the early Sixteenth Century.
With help from the cell phone, they introduced themselves to Leonardo and asked him if he would like to travel to the future with them.
Leonardo said,“Si. Mi piacerebbe molto.”

So all four men hopped into the time machine and traveled back into our time.
They knocked on the door of Charles Idemi’s house.
Wells said,“Hi. I’m H. G. Wells, this is Benjamin Franklin, this is William Shakespeare, and this is Leonardo da Vinci. We understand that you are an educationist, business administrator, and minister of the gospel. So we would like for you to share your wisdom with us.”

Whereupon all five great men sat down and conversed until the wee small hours of the morning.

There. I’ve written a story which uses only names of actual people.
So the story itself must be true.

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Taizhou, China

#76164 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
“Of course i agree, the Catholic church then, did alot of bad things to people, but all these, does not change or invalidates the reality of God.”

So we have an all-powerful and all-loving God who either can’t or won’t establish a church better than the Christian church has done.

If God is all-powerful, why CAN'T he establish a church which would not usher in the Dark Ages?

If God is all-loving, why WON’T he establish a church which would not usher in the Dark Ages?

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#76166 Feb 15, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
"Archaeologists have also been unable to find evidence in Egypt for a million+ Hebrews living in or leaving Egypt at any time."
We can't seem to find the rock that provided the last missing mineral to the primordial soup that created life either.
Go figure!
You make fun, but I have given you a real example of science disproving your 'Holy' book, that is supposedly inspired by God.

Nope....no Godly inspiration there.

OK here's another real one that has some impact on Christian Dogma.

We know for a fact that humans were spread ALL over the earth by 15,000 years ago. There were humans living in China, Korea, Japan, Egypt, the Indus Valley, India, Australia, all of Europe, all of Asia, and all of the Americas, both North and South.

Your own theologians put the Tower of Babel and the subsequent confusing of human languages around 2200-2000 BC.

Do you think all these millions of people already spread all over earth were grunting at each other? Or just maybe they were already speaking their own languages...after all they had been there for thousands of years and counting.

Another founding story of the Christian God gone kaput and the scientists didn't even realize it for awhile.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#76167 Feb 15, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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oh nice that's another lie! Have you no shame!
Fine, you think you know your Bible better than I do?

Here is a simple challenge. Answer this multiple choice question:

In modern day English what is forbidden by the 10th commandment:

A: Cheeseburgerz.

B. Smacking your old lady around.

C. Shtuping the neighbor lady.

D. Watching Football.

Level 9

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Everett, WA

#76168 Feb 15, 2013
And of course by the Ten Commandments I am referring to the ones that were supposedly carved in stone by Gawd Almighty himself.

“too hard to handle”

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butler, pa

#76169 Feb 15, 2013
earlyapex wrote:
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If only it were so! Unfortunately, science is run by humans, and humans do what they always do - insert bias. Even science is biased dramatically by personal political beliefs (i.e. global warming - look up the p-value on the relationship between carbon dioxide and temperature).
There are very few, if any, scientists who initiate a study without the intent of proving his/her particular theory.
Back on topic, if evolution is false why are so many genes homologous between a human being and a rabbit for example? Why is it that we are able to grow human recombinant proteins in e. coli bacteria?
The only requirement to disbelieve in evolution is a lack of education. Now Darwin didn't get it all exactly right. Real evolution happens a lot faster than what he estimated because cells have a lot more ability to rearrange DNA (ie spliceosome) and create different proteins, etc. Hell, we even have nucleic enzymes that can move DNA around on a chromosome.
"Back on topic, if evolution is false why are so many genes homologous between a human being and a rabbit for example? Why is it that we are able to grow human recombinant proteins in e. coli bacteria?"
The answer is that simply we are made of the same building blocks as anything else in this self sustaining ecosystem. I would be surprise if there were not genes that are homologous. In creationism, everything is made the same way, the only thing that differentiates life from non life in creationism is that God breathed life into living creatures. We agree that physically we are a creation, the same as animals, why then would there NOT be homologous genes? Such is necessary for survival on earth. Goodness, such a shallow argument! There are even millions of beneficial bacteria living in us that also provide the same benefits in animals. Nothing is different or exceptional about the physical body of man except that god breathed life into him.

“too hard to handle”

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Since: Jun 11

butler, pa

#76170 Feb 15, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
You make fun, but I have given you a real example of science disproving your 'Holy' book, that is supposedly inspired by God.
Nope....no Godly inspiration there.
OK here's another real one that has some impact on Christian Dogma.
We know for a fact that humans were spread ALL over the earth by 15,000 years ago. There were humans living in China, Korea, Japan, Egypt, the Indus Valley, India, Australia, all of Europe, all of Asia, and all of the Americas, both North and South.
Your own theologians put the Tower of Babel and the subsequent confusing of human languages around 2200-2000 BC.
Do you think all these millions of people already spread all over earth were grunting at each other? Or just maybe they were already speaking their own languages...after all they had been there for thousands of years and counting.
Another founding story of the Christian God gone kaput and the scientists didn't even realize it for awhile.
Which theologians date the tower of babel at 2200 - 2000 bc? No they were not "grunting" They had thier own languages. Ever really study that mummy they found in the snow a few years ago? Curious thing, they found evidence that he was a multicultural and probably multilingual trapper and trader. The story of the tower of babel is not contradicted by evidence that there were multiple languages and cultures, it provides an explanation for it.

By the way, why do we so often just assume that populations that existed eons ago were less cultured, smart or sophisticated than us? That mummy they found in the ice?, that multicultural polymath that he probably was, was infinitely more sophisticated than most modern men.

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butler, pa

#76171 Feb 15, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
Charles Idemi wrote:
“Of course i agree, the Catholic church then, did alot of bad things to people, but all these, does not change or invalidates the reality of God.”
So we have an all-powerful and all-loving God who either can’t or won’t establish a church better than the Christian church has done.
If God is all-powerful, why CAN'T he establish a church which would not usher in the Dark Ages?
If God is all-loving, why WON’T he establish a church which would not usher in the Dark Ages?
I would reply that a polymath churchman and scientist named Copernicus likely ushered in the age of enlightenment.

Ever hear of the polymath named Erasmus?

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