Evolution vs. Creation

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008. Full Story

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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#76117 Feb 15, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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"Of course my denial doesn't prove it wrong"
Good we have that settled.
But, science is....

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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#76118 Feb 15, 2013
What happened??

Sorry admin

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#76119 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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I've addressed you directly hundreds and hundreds of times over. You in turn are incapable of addressing anything.
So you see now why your post is particularly ironic.
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There is no debate. Never has been. The essence of all the fuss is that a bunch of reality-denying fruitcakes take ancient parables literally even if they were never meant to be and so claim that reality is not real because an invisible Jewish wizard did things differently.
Go on with your gibberish, in my life experiences, i have not seen any one defeating the almighty. They will only boast, brag that they are this or that, but only to end up in the grave or being cremated.

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#76120 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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You assume a "who" is necessary. Until we have more information it would be far more appropriate to say "what".
But leaving aside the question of the singularity itself, so far the evidence points to the Big Bang.
Ok, big bang?
Now explain how that big bang brought the universe into form?

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#76121 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Yes, the Bible is real. That is not always the case for the claims in its collection of stories however. Period.
The Bible is not true just because the Bible sez so.
Herod was a real guy.
His order to kill babies cannot be verified.
Talking lizards and donkeys never existed.
Period.
Not only Herod many other biblical characters have been verified archaeologically.
Others not yet discovered can not make the bible to be false.
The bible once again, is real!

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#76122 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>More shit from you.
Now give me three( 3) archaeological proof or evidence for Harry Porter ?
You should pay woodtick no heed.
He just try's to tick Christians off.
He has nothing real to offer.

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#76123 Feb 15, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>But, science is....
Dead wrong!

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#76124 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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So is climbing the stairs.
By the way, "educationist" is showing as wrong on my spell check.
With good reason.
In just this one case however I will let you off since English is not your first language.
Oh, and I'm still waiting on that 500 quid for letting you use it.
Point of correction, English is official to my country, we are well educated far and wide even more than your folks over there.
Most of my patriots, in the UK and US alone, tends to do better than their English, British and American counterparts.
By Educationist, i meant trained Teacher or Professional in the field of Education( Teaching, Lecturing, Examining and Supervising, etc).

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#76125 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> More shit from you.
Now give me three( 3) archaeological proof or evidence for Harry Porter ?
Charles, nothing in scripture justifies or authorizes denigration of another individual either online, in person, whatever the media.

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#76126 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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So is climbing the stairs.
By the way, "educationist" is showing as wrong on my spell check.
With good reason.
In just this one case however I will let you off since English is not your first language.
Oh, and I'm still waiting on that 500 quid for letting you use it.
And again, like i earlier said, your educational background in Government and History is zero( nought).
I have asked you before, why colonialism? due to poor foundation in the above subjects you could not.
Now, despite the negative nature of colonialism, there are some good, they are:
Schools, Research centres, Linguistic or language studies, etc, which were not really free. A good example is, Harvard, Yale, Queen's college, etc.

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#76127 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Point of correction, God the creator.
What is the title of this thread or forum?
Like i said, do you really have an eye?
"God the creator" isn't your deity?

Never mind, I was distracted by that.

Okay, where are scientists trying to disprove God the creator?

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#76128 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Ok, don't run away from this question that i have been asking, how did the universe came into form?
I've already answered you on that one, more than once.

You really should pay attention.

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#76129 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Yes, but that has little to do with their contributions to science.
Sure, Newton may have said God was his inspiration, but his theory of gravity was still inaccurate.
And are Francis Collins and Ken Miller believers of God? Why yes they are!
And they still think fundie YECism is complete bollox. With good reason.
Wrong!
Are you trying to discredit Newton?
Give me one inventions in your credit, you foul liar?

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#76130 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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The reality is likely quite different. You have no idea how nuanced Christianity can be. After all there are numerous sects, all with their own different ideas of how it works. Dogen who posts with us lot is a Buddhist Christian for example, IIRC.
Foul!
All true Christians teaches and preaches, the tenets or precepts of the bible( God and Jesus Christ).
Dogen is a follower of Zen and a Budhist.

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#76131 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Oh, and you completely avoided my post again to go off on another tangent.
Probably had something to do with the fact that my post was right.(shrug)
I said something that you said, yes or no?
Now dispute that.

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#76132 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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I do. Remember, it's MY word. Not yours. I own it. By your own admission. And that being the case I'm pulling rank and telling you straight up that you're using it wrong.
No-one needs faith to know that a steamroller is gonna make someone flat if they get in the way.
And man, you've been steam-rolled so many times.
No arguments about that, the English owns the language, English!
But educational wise, the world today, is a global village.
English language is now open to any one that wanted it.
In the UK today, foreign students or British born foreigners are even doing well than most of the so called British.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

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#76133 Feb 15, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Dead wrong!
Many of the different sciences are working on projects that end up having some consequences for religious beliefs. One has only to make the connection.

Many scientific endeavors aimed at proving points in the Bible have ended up disproving them.

Case in point: archaeologists have been scouring the Sinai desert for over a hundred years to find evidence for the Biblical Exodus. They have been unable to find ANYTHING that corroborates it. Not one piece of anything to indicate that a million+- Hebrews walked the area escaping the Egyptian 'Pharoah' and his army.

The archaeologists found evidence of smaller groups passing in the desert, both before and after the reputed time....but nothing at all for the 'Exodus"

So here we have a part of the Bible that has thrilled people for a few thousand years, a founding story for the religion of Yahweh, and it's been proved totally false.

Archaeologists have also been unable to find evidence in Egypt for a million+ Hebrews living in or leaving Egypt at any time.

That's just one of a number of things that science has proven to be wrong in the Christian Bible.

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#76134 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Charing Cross Road, King's Cross Station (both in London), and Egypt.
Like i said, you are a liar. We are not talking about places but people or characters.
Most novels, plays, etc, always talks about real places.
Arms and the man, A tale of two cities, Oliver Twist, Macbeth, etc, talked about real places.

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#76135 Feb 15, 2013
Spocko wrote:
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I suppose when your maker distributed brains you ended up in back of the line - yemoron!
Ok, if you have the clue, show it, Moron.

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#76136 Feb 15, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
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The point is my friend that whenever the church rules society you either agree with them or die.
The Catholic church was famous (or infamous) for killing non-believers during the Dark-Ages and the Middle-Ages.
We can never know for sure what these people believed deep down.
Ofcourse i agree, the Catholic church then, did alot of bad things to people, but all these, does not change or invalidates the reality of God.

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