Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Feb 15, 2013
 
bohart wrote:
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Onward Dude ,onward, you are so close to being a 43rd degree gooist who unlocks the secret of the goo.
Keep dodging.

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<quoted text>.....and then you immediately throw it at the spectators outside your cage, right?
Charles, you've lost any form of moral high ground by letting your debate get reduced to trash talk. You've demonstrated your own lack of faith, and you've shown that your faith is driven by your social incompetence. You really need to step back and read your holy book again and find out what you're missing.
Wrong!
The bible is a widely read book translated in many versions and languages, yes or no?

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<quoted text>Isn't looking before you leap a contradiction of faith?
No.
Read 2 Timothy 2 verse 15.
One must study, before he or she will be approved by God.

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Point of correction, God the creator.
What is the title of this thread or forum?
Like i said, do you really have an eye?
Ummmm, no. the FSM the creator. you worship him with every fiber of your soul....at least you haven't yet proven otherwise...

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Wrong!
The bible is a widely read book translated in many versions and languages, yes or no?
So is harry potter...

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OK. Since you've lost all rational form, might I suggest that you stop barking out commands for awareness since you don't have anything to say except that you have faith in two thousand year old myths.
Those myths have no bearing on the modern world as illuminated by science and you seem to buy into them for the magic, not the wisdom.
Consider your debate over. You've failed utterly to make any meaningful point and you've long since lost the battle for pathos.
A word for you. Fighting God is like fighting death, can you fight death?

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Francis Collins and Ken Miller are firm believers of God.
They both accept evolution.
You have not address the question, though indirectly.
Then, what is now the essence of the debate?

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Feb 15, 2013
 
zander714 wrote:
Science refuses to look at itself with the same criteria that it places upon natural world.
how so? plese be specific...

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... and the reality is that no-one can demonstrate it even exists. Tough nuggies, bub.
Then answer the question, how did the universe came into form?
The credit are not to humans, plants nor animals, then to who?

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> A word for you. Fighting God is like fighting death, can you fight death?
No, your god is a myth, and death is real.

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The Bible is a bunch of baseless claims written by ancient superstitous goat-herders who thought the Earth was flat.
Some stuff it gets right, some stuff it gets wrong. The rest can't be verified at this time.
Especially all the magic bits.
Foul!
Isa. 40 vs 22.
Read that!
The bible is real. Period.

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In which case you can credit God for not giving you one of them fancy brain thingies. You'd only get a headache anyway.(shrug)
Wrong!
I am an educationist, Business Administrator and a minister of the gospel.
By the grace of God that is an achievement.

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#76054
Feb 15, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
Whatever!
Conclusively, no one can disprove the existence of God.
First you talk about the bandwagon effect,
then you talk about the shape of the earth,
and now you talk about the existence of God.
Keep it up and you'll set a world record!

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Feb 15, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> A word for you. Fighting God is like fighting death, can you fight death?
Fighting 'god' is like shadow boxing. Besides, your 'god' couldn't stand up against iron chariots... I've got a Silverado with a brush-bar

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In which case you can credit God for not giving you one of them fancy brain thingies. You'd only get a headache anyway.(shrug)
And finally, every humans, whether scientist, liars, atheist, theist, do have headaches.

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Foul!
Isa. 40 vs 22.
Read that!
The bible is real. Period.
the bible is chock full of proven lies yet you cling to it like the cult member you are. glad we got your types out of the airports...

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Wrong!
I am an educationist, Business Administrator and a minister of the gospel.
By the grace of God that is an achievement.
you'd think you'd be able to make a sane argument then.

two scientific conclusions can be made from the facts you have just given us:

1. you really suck at what you do.

2. your position is indefensible with reason and logic and facts.

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Faith is the complete opposite of evidence. They are diametrically opposed.
Wrong!
Why were Newton, Copernicus, Galileo, etc, firm believers of God ?
Faith made them to have that.

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No. Science does not and cannot falsify a God because the concept is not scientific.
Theism and Christianity are irrelevant to science, period.
Atheism is irrelevant to science, period.
Science doesn't CARE what anyone's religious or philosophical opinions are. All it cares about is what you can demonstrate in an objective manner via the scientific method.
Since you can't demonstrate your beliefs objectively they are relevant only to you and anyone who happens to agree with you.
And somehow I'm guessing that even half the fundies here would not back you up on your claim that arbitrary imaginary international datelines are evidence of invisible spirit demons.
Foul!
All christians globally, believes in the existence of God, Satan, Angels, Spirits and Demons.
Period!

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Not faith, because science is perfectly open to the possibility of there being no oil underground. It comes up with a scientific theory based on evidence.
Currently ALL geology is based on old world assumptions, because it has been found that young Earth assumptions do not work, period.
That's why there are no Young Earth Creationist geologists looking for oil deposits. And the geologists the creationists sent out in the eighties to go look for evidence of a global flood and young Earth all came back and told their bosses exactly what they didn't wanna hear.
After that the creo's stopped sending scientists out into the field and just concentrated on apologetics. Apologetics of course being a pseudonym for lying for Jesus.
So no, when geologists looking for oil deposits find those deposits more often with old Earth geology than they do with young Earth geology, it's NOT a matter of faith.
The concept of faiths are applied daily in our beliefs, works, professions and religions.
Just understand the meaning of that word.

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