Evolution vs. Creation

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008. Full Story

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#76039 Feb 15, 2013
Additional evidence for the ToE released today (Friday, Feb 15th)

http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-02-footpri...

Following the footprints of positive selection
February 15th, 2013 in Genetics

For decades, the human genome could only tell us what we already suspected about the evolution of certain traits. Researchers were able to trace the genetic origin stories of lactose tolerance (as opposed to lactose intolerance), malaria resistance, and more only after observing these successful traits in specific populations. Now, the study of positive selection the ability to determine which genetic changes have conferred an evolutionary advantage has reached a turning point: the genome itself can be used as a starting point to guide scientists to important genetic locations, leading to hypotheses about human health and disease.

In a paper published this week in Cell, researchers from the Broad Institute, Harvard University, Harvard Medical School, and elsewhere describe the tools and resources that have come together to make this shift possible. Pardis Sabeti, a senior associate member at the Broad and an associate professor at Harvard, and Shari Grossman, a graduate research assistant in the Sabeti and Lander labs, worked with colleagues to develop a tool known as the Composite of Multiple Signals (CMS) test to detect the genetic signals of positive selection, and trace these signals to specific sites in the genome. Thanks to the public release of sequence data from the 1000 Genomes Project, the research team has been able to put CMS into practice to generate a list of 412 candidate signals.

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#76040 Feb 15, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Okay, where are atheist scientists trying to disprove your deity?
Point of correction, God the creator.
What is the title of this thread or forum?
Like i said, do you really have an eye?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76041 Feb 15, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Onward Dude ,onward, you are so close to being a 43rd degree gooist who unlocks the secret of the goo.
Keep dodging.

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#76042 Feb 15, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>.....and then you immediately throw it at the spectators outside your cage, right?
Charles, you've lost any form of moral high ground by letting your debate get reduced to trash talk. You've demonstrated your own lack of faith, and you've shown that your faith is driven by your social incompetence. You really need to step back and read your holy book again and find out what you're missing.
Wrong!
The bible is a widely read book translated in many versions and languages, yes or no?

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#76043 Feb 15, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>Isn't looking before you leap a contradiction of faith?
No.
Read 2 Timothy 2 verse 15.
One must study, before he or she will be approved by God.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#76044 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Point of correction, God the creator.
What is the title of this thread or forum?
Like i said, do you really have an eye?
Ummmm, no. the FSM the creator. you worship him with every fiber of your soul....at least you haven't yet proven otherwise...

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#76045 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Wrong!
The bible is a widely read book translated in many versions and languages, yes or no?
So is harry potter...

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#76046 Feb 15, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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OK. Since you've lost all rational form, might I suggest that you stop barking out commands for awareness since you don't have anything to say except that you have faith in two thousand year old myths.
Those myths have no bearing on the modern world as illuminated by science and you seem to buy into them for the magic, not the wisdom.
Consider your debate over. You've failed utterly to make any meaningful point and you've long since lost the battle for pathos.
A word for you. Fighting God is like fighting death, can you fight death?

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#76048 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Francis Collins and Ken Miller are firm believers of God.
They both accept evolution.
You have not address the question, though indirectly.
Then, what is now the essence of the debate?

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Minnesota's North Coast

#76049 Feb 15, 2013
zander714 wrote:
Science refuses to look at itself with the same criteria that it places upon natural world.
how so? plese be specific...

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#76050 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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... and the reality is that no-one can demonstrate it even exists. Tough nuggies, bub.
Then answer the question, how did the universe came into form?
The credit are not to humans, plants nor animals, then to who?

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#76051 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> A word for you. Fighting God is like fighting death, can you fight death?
No, your god is a myth, and death is real.

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#76052 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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The Bible is a bunch of baseless claims written by ancient superstitous goat-herders who thought the Earth was flat.
Some stuff it gets right, some stuff it gets wrong. The rest can't be verified at this time.
Especially all the magic bits.
Foul!
Isa. 40 vs 22.
Read that!
The bible is real. Period.

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#76053 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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In which case you can credit God for not giving you one of them fancy brain thingies. You'd only get a headache anyway.(shrug)
Wrong!
I am an educationist, Business Administrator and a minister of the gospel.
By the grace of God that is an achievement.

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#76054 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
Whatever!
Conclusively, no one can disprove the existence of God.
First you talk about the bandwagon effect,
then you talk about the shape of the earth,
and now you talk about the existence of God.
Keep it up and you'll set a world record!

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

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#76055 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> A word for you. Fighting God is like fighting death, can you fight death?
Fighting 'god' is like shadow boxing. Besides, your 'god' couldn't stand up against iron chariots... I've got a Silverado with a brush-bar

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#76056 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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In which case you can credit God for not giving you one of them fancy brain thingies. You'd only get a headache anyway.(shrug)
And finally, every humans, whether scientist, liars, atheist, theist, do have headaches.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#76057 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Foul!
Isa. 40 vs 22.
Read that!
The bible is real. Period.
the bible is chock full of proven lies yet you cling to it like the cult member you are. glad we got your types out of the airports...

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#76058 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Wrong!
I am an educationist, Business Administrator and a minister of the gospel.
By the grace of God that is an achievement.
you'd think you'd be able to make a sane argument then.

two scientific conclusions can be made from the facts you have just given us:

1. you really suck at what you do.

2. your position is indefensible with reason and logic and facts.

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#76059 Feb 15, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Faith is the complete opposite of evidence. They are diametrically opposed.
Wrong!
Why were Newton, Copernicus, Galileo, etc, firm believers of God ?
Faith made them to have that.

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