Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#76009 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> No, i didn't say science, because we have scientist that are christians, i was only talking about scientist that are atheist.
Okay, where are atheist scientists trying to disprove your deity?
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#76010 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> I notice shit when i see one( it).
.....and then you immediately throw it at the spectators outside your cage, right?

Charles, you've lost any form of moral high ground by letting your debate get reduced to trash talk. You've demonstrated your own lack of faith, and you've shown that your faith is driven by your social incompetence. You really need to step back and read your holy book again and find out what you're missing.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#76011 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> We are not talking about God, but faith, look before you leap.
Isn't looking before you leap a contradiction of faith?
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#76012 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Likewise!
Buffoon.
OK. Since you've lost all rational form, might I suggest that you stop barking out commands for awareness since you don't have anything to say except that you have faith in two thousand year old myths.

Those myths have no bearing on the modern world as illuminated by science and you seem to buy into them for the magic, not the wisdom.

Consider your debate over. You've failed utterly to make any meaningful point and you've long since lost the battle for pathos.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76013 Feb 15, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
Well, that's the problem. Since the center of a black hole is both tiny and heavy, you can't avoid using both theories at the same time. And when we try to put the two theories together in the realm of black holes, they conflict. It breaks down. They give nonsensical predictions.
Actually you're wrong. QM makes valid successful predictions. Gravity makes valid successful predictions. They only come into conflict when dealing with things such as singularities. Which is why cosmologists are currently working on a theory of quantum gravity, but they don't have it yet.

But if science worked like you claimed then we should have thrown out Newton's theory of gravity as soon as he came up with it. Since even back then they knew (the scientists at least) that it still couldn't accurately predict the motion of Mercury. That didn't happen until Einstein. And QM is already proving him wrong.

But if gravity was not capable of making valid scientific precictions then we wouldn't have just landed a probe on Mars last year.
Langoliers wrote:
And the universe is not nonsensical; it's got to make sense.
No it doesn't. It's got creationists in it for one thing.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76014 Feb 15, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes it is. Your denying it is not proof against it.
Yes, the Bible is true because the Bible sez so! Even the bit about talking lizards and donkeys. Because the entire Bible is the "literal" Word of God.

Just ignore the bit where it says the Earth is a flat square circle at the center of a geocentric universe.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76015 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> And also now, the statistics of atheism and christianity is an evidence to that.
Galileo was a scientist and a firm believer of God, yes or no?
Francis Collins and Ken Miller are firm believers of God.

They both accept evolution.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76016 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> What ever!
The facts is that, no statement, whether good or bad can change the reality of God.
... and the reality is that no-one can demonstrate it even exists. Tough nuggies, bub.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76017 Feb 15, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Don't be scared. They made humans and all life on earth. Humans think they(aliens) are God(s), angels and Demons.........The primitive human animal just out of the dark ages has a mind steeped in folk lure and tale tales. The aliens know the human animal well. The humans comprehension levels are low, unable to grasp the alien beings. In order to cope with reality humans went to what they know, story telling, a coping mechanism. That's where the "Fear of God" came from. Fear of the unknown, not wanting to know, knowing their world was shattered beyond comprehension.
I'm not scared.

You're in Kansas.

Kansans should be scared.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76018 Feb 15, 2013
Superwilly wrote:
<quoted text> Christianity is not about healing people with prayer, it is about following jesus. Totally different thing.
Well around here following Jesus means lying their azz off for Jesus. Hopefully you are not like the majority of your fellow brethren on here.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76019 Feb 15, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Damn! you've already proved my point, can't you STFU .
If only you had a point to prove.(shrug)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76020 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> All the evidences you are seeking for, are found in the bible you rejected.
If truly you are right, there would be no bible at all to read.
The Bible is a bunch of baseless claims written by ancient superstitous goat-herders who thought the Earth was flat.

Some stuff it gets right, some stuff it gets wrong. The rest can't be verified at this time.

Especially all the magic bits.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76021 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>And again, all credits goes to God for giving us the brain for science, art, technology and social or management sciences.
In which case you can credit God for not giving you one of them fancy brain thingies. You'd only get a headache anyway.(shrug)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76022 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Faith is the evidence of things not seen, we Christians have it, but you don't.
Faith is the complete opposite of evidence. They are diametrically opposed.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76023 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Under science we have two beliefs of thought:
1. Atheism and
2. Christianity.
Yes or no?
If yes, then your statements are just mere assertions.
No. Science does not and cannot falsify a God because the concept is not scientific.

Theism and Christianity are irrelevant to science, period.

Atheism is irrelevant to science, period.

Science doesn't CARE what anyone's religious or philosophical opinions are. All it cares about is what you can demonstrate in an objective manner via the scientific method.

Since you can't demonstrate your beliefs objectively they are relevant only to you and anyone who happens to agree with you.

And somehow I'm guessing that even half the fundies here would not back you up on your claim that arbitrary imaginary international datelines are evidence of invisible spirit demons.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76024 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Foul!
A man prospecting for oil is an act of what?
I hope you know the answer, it is science, yes but faith is needed, because there may or may not be oil under the ground.
Not faith, because science is perfectly open to the possibility of there being no oil underground. It comes up with a scientific theory based on evidence.

Currently ALL geology is based on old world assumptions, because it has been found that young Earth assumptions do not work, period.

That's why there are no Young Earth Creationist geologists looking for oil deposits. And the geologists the creationists sent out in the eighties to go look for evidence of a global flood and young Earth all came back and told their bosses exactly what they didn't wanna hear.

After that the creo's stopped sending scientists out into the field and just concentrated on apologetics. Apologetics of course being a pseudonym for lying for Jesus.

So no, when geologists looking for oil deposits find those deposits more often with old Earth geology than they do with young Earth geology, it's NOT a matter of faith.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76025 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> No, i didn't say science, because we have scientist that are christians, i was only talking about scientist that are atheist.
There are Christian scientists who disagree with you on science. They have no problem accepting biology, chemistry and physics - you know, all those things you have a problem with.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#76026 Feb 15, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> No, i didn't say science, because we have scientist that are christians, i was only talking about scientist that are atheist.
Oh, and another thing - scientists who are atheists aren't trying to disprove a God. Since they can't falsify non-scientific concepts either.
Will Work For Judge Its

Denver, CO

#76027 Feb 15, 2013
Bobby Henderson FTW!

Oh nevermind, he's as useless as Adam today.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#76028 Feb 15, 2013
Alien outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly woody, humans have not started....kind of ironic. What will humans discover? Gods heavenly gates and every single human that has ever passed to the after life? So, woody how long did it take humans to evolve language, than writing, than the Bible? And, discover that bones are indeed the gateway to human existence.....silly stuff woody. Once humans explore deep space, clues will discount all theories and man made concepts
OK there major Tom....

what makes you believe that?

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