Evolution vs. Creation

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75833 Feb 14, 2013
Professor wrote:
Even if evolution is true (and there is plenty of evidence to support it), scientists cannot explain how the very first cell came into existence.
After the Big Bang, the universe was sterile. SOMETHING happened to cause life to appear out of nothing.
yes, molecules formed out of the forming elements. they formed onto the amino acids we know exist in space. those amino acids are the building blocks of life they came together under some conditions that perhaps we have not encountered yet (no reason to belive it happened on Earth)and viola

Seems like they can explain, and have evidence for all teh processes up to the very point life came from all the abundant elements that make up life.

pretty damn close.

creationists are still stuck at square one with trying to find a shredof evidence of any god, gods or goddesses...
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#75834 Feb 14, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Lame jokes? your position on lifes origins is far funnier than anyone could be, and your dodging of it is insulting.
And let's try something here, Boo boo.

Observation that life is made up of chemistry? Observable fact.

Observation that new life develops from naturally occurring chemical processes? Observable fact.

Observation of life? Observable fact.

Observation of evolution? Observable fact.

Observation of magical poofing of organisms by invisible Jewish wizards? SWEET F A.

Hypothesis - magical poofing of life due to the intervention of an interdimensional invisible Jewish wizard. Scientific observations to support this include... well, uh... SWEET F A. Currently undergoing scientific research by... absolutely positively NO-ONE on the entire frakking planet.

Hypothesis - Abiogenesis is the result of God making use of naturally occurring chemical processes from the abundance of chemicals present in the Earths early environment. Observations to support this include planet-wide chemistry as well as the earliest forms of organisms being bacterial/micriobial in nature, the reproduction of which gradually led to a great variety of lifeforms with no violations of nested hierarchy. However unfortunately there is no testable evidence of (a) God. Currently being researched by numerous scientific organizations across the world, except for the bit about God since it is not currently scientifically verifiable. The rest is though.

Now, note that these are two DISTINCTLY THEIST points of view regarding the origin of life on this planet.

Also note that only ONE of these positions does not necessarily require a denial of reality.

Care to take a guess which one that would be?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75835 Feb 14, 2013
Wow! did i just respond to a post from the first page?

Cool!

Level 1

Since: Nov 10

New Westminster, Canada

#75836 Feb 14, 2013
Watch this -- Another point of view on religion:

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75837 Feb 14, 2013
jamesdang wrote:
Watch this -- Another point of view on religion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ToF7jmOM7eYXX
Kyomibukai...

Level 5

Since: Apr 12

Taizhou, China

#75838 Feb 14, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
The numbers of Christians world wide are few, true or false?
The bandwagon fallacy!
For anyone who wants a Latin lesson, that's "argumentum ad populum," "argumentum ad numerum," or "consensus gentium."

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75839 Feb 14, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
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The bandwagon fallacy!
For anyone who wants a Latin lesson, that's "argumentum ad populum," "argumentum ad numerum," or "consensus gentium."
i prefer the first nation lesson...
"heap big buffaloshit!"

““You must not lose faith ”

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Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#75840 Feb 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes, molecules formed out of the forming elements. they formed onto the amino acids we know exist in space. those amino acids are the building blocks of life they came together under some conditions that perhaps we have not encountered yet (no reason to belive it happened on Earth)and viola
Seems like they can explain, and have evidence for all teh processes up to the very point life came from all the abundant elements that make up life.
pretty damn close.
creationists are still stuck at square one with trying to find a shredof evidence of any god, gods or goddesses...
In short:
precursors of life can form naturally.
amino-acids
RNA
lipid layers
simpler versions of metabolic chemical like ATP and ADP
NEXT STEP PROTO CELL
Eating /swollowing each other.
Communicating bacteria see TED talk Bonnie Bassler.
Most likely place near volcanic hotpools on land.
Best candidate given amino acids and lipd layers would be Montmorrilion soil a.k.a. Carpentras soil.

I've read plenty of papers, including schematics and actual tests...and lots can be found on this forum.
It's f.i. no problem whatsoever anymore to make synthetic DNA, usually the debate would be whether that is a welcome development.

““You must not lose faith ”

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Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#75841 Feb 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Kyomibukai...
japanese french->intressant.

Let's sneak a peak then.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75842 Feb 14, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>
japanese french->intressant.
Let's sneak a peak then.
japanese to my world...

"totally freakin' cool, dude..."

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75843 Feb 14, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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japanese french->intressant.
Let's sneak a peak then.
Oh, you actually understood him? I just know how to say interesting in japanese...

““You must not lose faith ”

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Since: Jun 11

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#75844 Feb 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Kyomibukai...
Clearly a guy without depraved thoughts given the sunny disposition.
Confucius analects...lecture:


That dualism again.

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Since: Apr 11

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#75846 Feb 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Theya re not world wide.
and who says this proof of god would be your god?
your logic is getting lamer and lamer as you are proved wrong on more adn more of your pathetic attempts to justify your cult...
Globally, atheism are on the minority, true or false?
Just accept your blindness and ignorance, Buffoon.

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#75847 Feb 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>I have. many times.
I don't take shit for an answer. The universe can not just evolve with out a maker.

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Since: Apr 11

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#75848 Feb 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Starting your psychotic repetition so early in the day, Chaz? not going so well, huh?
If you can not answer that question, on how the universe came into form, then you can not disprove the existence of God.
Alien outlaw

Kansas City, MO

#75849 Feb 14, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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....and what is this "reality" that YOU know that has been heretofore hidden from the rest of humanity?
It does not matter. The primitive human animal has it all fiqured out.....God created everything or humans evolved from apes.....whats left to say, it must be true.....thats it....stick a fork in it!
bohart

Newport, TN

#75850 Feb 14, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>and in your's the sky buddy created himself and then the magic dirt...
one has evidence to back it up, one has zero evidence. get back to me when you get that first bit of evidence for your sky buddy or the magic dirt...
Get back to me when you have evidence of the magic goo.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#75851 Feb 14, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Then answer the question!
You are inattentive.

I did.

To paraphrase myself, I dunno. Yet.
bohart

Newport, TN

#75852 Feb 14, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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This is simply a poor excuse that Christians try to use when people point out how foolish their religion is.
Guess what bo? Al religions have a line like this.
Religions have always had to fight against people who could see through the bullshit.
No it's just a great line by Milton to describe how the created has the nerve to tell the creator how to do the job.
bohart

Newport, TN

#75853 Feb 14, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Dodging? Sir, I have directly addressed it. Many times over. And you know this.
Observation that life is made up of chemistry? Observable fact.
Observation that new life develops from naturally occurring chemical processes? Observable fact.
Observation of life? Observable fact.
Observation of evolution? Observable fact.
Observation of magical poofing of organisms by invisible Jewish wizards? SWEET F A.
Hypothesis - Abiogenesis is the result of naturally occurring chemical processes from the abundance of chemicals present in the Earths early environment. Observations to support this include planet-wide chemistry as well as the earliest forms of organisms being bacterial/micriobial in nature, the reproduction of which gradually led to a great variety of lifeforms with no violations of nested hierarchy. Currently being researched by numerous scientific organizations across the world.
Hypothesis - magical poofing of life due to the intervention of an interdimensional invisible Jewish wizard. Scientific observations to support this include... well, uh... SWEET F A. Currently undergoing scientific research by... absolutely positively NO-ONE on the entire frakking planet.
<quoted text>
Good. I'm glad you're insulted. I tend to do that to ignorant people who insist on parading their ignorance in the face of reality.
Create life through your chemical process, unless of course you just told the favorite puddle gooist lie. Yep you did.

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