Evolution vs. Creation

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““You must not lose faith ”

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#75772 Feb 13, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Read the book of Genesis. God created the universe. No one can say it was human, animals and plants handiworks?
There we go, a completely new level of obtuse.
You do not read the book of genesis in it's original language but a stupid interpeted translation of it.
Not god but Elohym the consortium of all spirits , gods and goddeses that were thought to reside in everything, thus humans, rocks, water, animals, plants, filled the earth by deviding.
The were clueless about the universe. Heaven was about being able to measure the stars, and ended where the visible stars stopped, and the foundations of the earth.
That's what they (also the surronding areas) had as worldview.
No universe whatsoever.
NONE have claimed that human, animal or plants created the universe. Not even that anything was created.
But the phantasy needed to think up the stories is all human and comes from trying to explain what they observed in humans,=animals and plants.
And there are two cretion accounts from different sources in the same bible.

““You must not lose faith ”

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#75773 Feb 13, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, you have done very well.
It's dealing with someone with the intellect of a houseplant (or a POE) that has me guessing about their mind-set
Thank you, Kong.

I know 9-9, that's how it always starts!

So... it's like the TED talk by Frans de Waal, an animal behaviour experiment.:)))

Observe.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Iquique

#75774 Feb 13, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
Your religion of atheism is a lie, why do you embrace and support lies? Trying to find solace in this worn out thread, I see.
Well, lets see. Religion entails believing in a floaty thing that has no substance, cannot be seen by mortals, makes things (universes, galaxies, planets, suns, people, animals, plants, etc.) ex-nihilo, and knows everything there is to know about everything in the universe.

It also entails going to some kind of church or building where people congregate and say weird things and pray, praise, and sing in honor of the God mentioned above.

You must also tithe 10% of your net paycheck to this church or building so they can pay the pastor, who decides for you what the Bible means and makes sure you are not living in sin (which is usually connected with sex). Any moneys left over are put towards paying the mortgage, and sometimes missionary work.

Most of these churches/religions believe that their God made just two humans (male and female they were) about 6,000+- years ago, and that these 2 mated and produced children who then mated and, using incest at first, produced all the people on earth and are our ancestors

Most of these churches/religions also make their members believe that a man named Noah, on Gods direction, built a big wooden boat and took 2 or 7 of ALL animals on earth (including dinosaurs that lived 65+- million years before Noah) and sat out, in this boat, a Godly produced world-wide flood that lasted almost a year.

They also have to believe that a hundred years or so after the flood of Noah, God floated down from heaven and scrambled the language of some folks hanging around the plains of Shinar. Why he never scrambled the languages of China, India, the Americas, Korea, Japan, Malaysia, all of Europe and other parts of Asia are not known.

There are many other things they are required to believe, but time is short here.

Another thing these religions are required to do is bother and irritate people who are not of their own particular branch of insanity. Some of them are relegated to coming to these forums such as we are now on and act totally crazy and say the stupidest things and try to give atheists the heebie jeebies and nervous breakdown.

Now atheism, on the other hand, just requires that you dont believe a God of any kind exists. If you want, you can join groups that promote atheism and donate money to them, but it is not required.

No meetings required, no beliefs to remember other than that there is no God. You dont even have to admit you are an atheist..but you really should proselytize those damn Christians.

““You must not lose faith ”

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#75775 Feb 13, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
woodtick57 wrote:
Then go ahead and disprove the existence of the FSM. it is the fastest growing religion on the planet, it must be real if you cannot disprove he is the ruler of all.
Charles Idemi wrote:
You can call God, whatever names you can, but nothing can change his identity as the most the high.
Charles, you must hold the world record for red herrings.
sigh.

But on a lighter note'the gobbledegook of the most the high, probably means El Ellyon, the El=mighty ot Ellyon, which as we know is the old name for Pergamom in Anatolia, on a mighty city mount, once thought to be part of the old KNan/Phenician/Omride cite-state bond.(The theory is still fresh)
Which had a huge library shared or rather stolen from Dendera on the coast where young and maybe old Homer wrote their respective works. Stolen as in Homer's work was hidden for generations, buried to keep from the rulers, Assyrian at that time had taken over.
Alien Outlaw

Kansas City, MO

#75776 Feb 13, 2013
woodtick 57 wrote:
<quoted text>human existence. are you against it?
No, It? How humans came into "existence". Know the source. Alien engineering, creation or evolution....pick one if the brain will allow..........Basically, monkey DNA, a bible character or a highly evolved, highly advanced Alien Being.....simple logic.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#75777 Feb 13, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>No, It? How humans came into "existence". Know the source. Alien engineering, creation or evolution....pick one if the brain will allow..........Basically, monkey DNA, a bible character or a highly evolved, highly advanced Alien Being.....simple logic.
Very simple.

We still don't care.

““You must not lose faith ”

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#75778 Feb 13, 2013
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CBOW [...]injected advanced DNA which were adam and eve.

:|:| means deja vu. So we are walking godsperm since eve was made from adam, how do you explain the female species?

(you know you shouldn't but another case of how does it tick.)
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Cybele wrote:
Me excluded them when I am the one who says God is the entirety of the universe? which includes everything even rocks. So rocks are not capable of love and caring which means they don't have a purpose? that's your logic. You know I was referring to humans when I say maybe we are here to experience love and you misinterpret it because you don't want any kind of God beliefs.

Bye.

We had the utility argument and now we have the : we are here for the purpose of experiencing love.
But it skips your inbuilt initial premises that we are meant to be created for the sake of being elevated.

What you make of life as in the meaning you give it is what makes life worth living for you.
Other people have other personal experiences and adopt other meaning according. Whatever works for people.
But there is the fact that your cognitive approach does not undo the technical aspects of inbuilt bio-chemistry and the empathy-gene without which you would not be able to experience it. Apart from the mindf!ck it would otherwise be.
But all your arguements still fail to proof that our environment was created for us.
(It's semantics, i agree. But your reasoning shows an undercurrent.)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#75779 Feb 13, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Then shut up if you don't know.
No.

You know less than diddly (my pet vegetated gerbil, now deceased) and you don't shut up.(shrug)

““You must not lose faith ”

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Since: Jun 11

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#75780 Feb 13, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>No, It? How humans came into "existence". Know the source. Alien engineering, creation or evolution....pick one if the brain will allow..........Basically, monkey DNA, a bible character or a highly evolved, highly advanced Alien Being.....simple logic.
You got that reply on automatic repeat!?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#75781 Feb 13, 2013
Poor Diddly.

Tried to eat a carrot. A rather large carrot. Whole.

Took it sideways into his mouth, each end stretching his cheek pouches.

Well anyway, the tension in his cheeks made the carrot suddenly twist upright, causing instantaneous radical cerebral cortex rearrangement.

Hence vegetated.

He was never quite the same Diddly after that...

:-(
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#75782 Feb 13, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>No, It? How humans came into "existence". Know the source. Alien engineering, creation or evolution....pick one if the brain will allow..........Basically, monkey DNA, a bible character or a highly evolved, highly advanced Alien Being.....simple logic.
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Wrong!
What about the functions of the datelines, where you either gain or lose a day, is that not reality in your very eyes?
Spirits do exist, period.
Vegetation.

(sigh)

Not a good thing.
bohart

Newport, TN

#75783 Feb 13, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Very simple.
We still don't care.
Thats it Dude! you tell him,now return to your warm comforting quilt of ignorance and it's faith, requiring you to wrap yourself in it,and bask in its power to cloak you from the truth, all the while clicking your heels and chanting ,there is no creator but the goo, there is no creator but the goo.
Alien Outlaw

Kansas City, MO

#75784 Feb 13, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Very simple.
We still don't care.
Yet, you read and respond.The primitive wheels are spinning.........
Alien Outlaw

Kansas City, MO

#75785 Feb 13, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>
You got that reply on automatic repeat!?
It bears repeating....kind of like hearing the bible story sense birth.....brainwashing for sure.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#75786 Feb 13, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>Yet, you read and respond.The primitive wheels are spinning.........
Ah.

And you are "advanced" in comparison?

(I expect a 'response').

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75787 Feb 13, 2013
bohart wrote:
<quoted text>
Thats it Dude! you tell him,now return to your warm comforting quilt of ignorance and it's faith, requiring you to wrap yourself in it,and bask in its power to cloak you from the truth, all the while clicking your heels and chanting ,there is no creator but the goo, there is no creator but the goo.
Still can't get that goo out of your head blohard?

why do you think the magic dirt is any better...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75788 Feb 13, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>No, It? How humans came into "existence". Know the source. Alien engineering, creation or evolution....pick one if the brain will allow..........Basically, monkey DNA, a bible character or a highly evolved, highly advanced Alien Being.....simple logic.
See that is a different question...

first one would need proof of aliens, wouldn't they?
Alien Outlaw

Kansas City, MO

#75789 Feb 13, 2013
woodtick 57 wrote:
<quoted text>See that is a different question...
first one would need proof of aliens, wouldn't they?
So, the bible is proof of God? And, bones and monkey DNA are proof of evolution. Than a trillion galaxies are proof of Alien engineering. Humans need to see and feel to believe. Aliens will never allow primitive humans into their realm.....deep space intelligence. They know humans need to see, feel and especially cannot comprehend what is in front of them..........contact is impossible at this date and time. Perhaps after the human brain develops into a devise capable of reasoning past the theories of the past they will understand.....maybe, maybe not.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75790 Feb 13, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>So, the bible is proof of God? And, bones and monkey DNA are proof of evolution. Than a trillion galaxies are proof of Alien engineering. Humans need to see and feel to believe. Aliens will never allow primitive humans into their realm.....deep space intelligence. They know humans need to see, feel and especially cannot comprehend what is in front of them..........contact is impossible at this date and time. Perhaps after the human brain develops into a devise capable of reasoning past the theories of the past they will understand.....maybe, maybe not.
No, the bible is not proof of any god, gods or goddesses. why would you think that?

yes, our fossil record is proof of evolution of species.

so if you have no proof of aliens, then what makes you think all this whackjob bullshit you rant about is real in any way shape or form?

aren't you just like the religious whackjobs believing shit that is just a myth?
Alien outlaw

Kansas City, MO

#75791 Feb 13, 2013
woodtick 57 wrote:
<quoted text>No, the bible is not proof of any god, gods or goddesses. why would you think that?
yes, our fossil record is proof of evolution of species.
so if you have no proof of aliens, then what makes you think all this whack job bullshit you rant about is real in any way shape or form?
aren't you just like the religious whack jobs believing shit that is just a myth?
Let the brainwashing continue. Its a scary thought to know that the creators
(aliens) also control and manipulate all life on this rock. Is does not fit human reality. Its as real as the galaxies in the universe. Some humans feel they are the messenger of God. Some were chosen as alien messengers.Sounds as crazy as the moon landing 200 years ago..........Some live in the past(Bible,Evo) some have chosen the future(advanced intelligence)

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