Evolution vs. Creation

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Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75751 Feb 13, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Hehehe.
Can yo imagine what it would have been like to sit around in a dorm room getting stoned with that guy? i would have split a gut...

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#75752 Feb 13, 2013
MAAT wrote:
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebook s/3623
Sir George James Frazer.
The golden Bough.
Free e-book, you can read it online.
I've read it.

Some years agone - but I recall it fondly.

Also Graves's "The White Goddess"...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75753 Feb 13, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You are a sham!
What about the equator, the functions of the datelines, whereby a day is either gained or lost, is that not reality in your eyes, Kitten?
You are indeed clueless.
Study your Geography lessons!
And there are many places on teh planet where you can see that equator with your very own eyes!

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#75754 Feb 13, 2013
gotnatas wrote:
<quoted text>
And abstinence is a sex position lol.
Yes if you use a VERY liberal use of the word religion then yea it can apply to anything, Including YOUR obtuse version of it.
But you demonstrated you have no idea of what your talking about. Atheism isn't evolution. In fact not all atheists believe in evolution, just like not all theists disbelieve in evolution.
Now the last part of your post is ironic projection.
Its what creationists do"to explain what they cannot comprehend."
As to your last sentence that would be correct but only in sofar that we have a new understanding and vocabulary.
You can take as examples Democritos and his atoms.
Or Heraclitus (500 BC) and his concept of everything in dynamic flow (you can't cross the same river twice.
Or the old YHWH whose appellation means Be-Life and that incorporates all surroundings and Heraclitus concept.
For the longest time people have been opposing religion but it's as if the salience of it only now took hold in the minds of people.
Makes one wonder how long it takes for a meme to take hold.
In the old days you would just have some priest or reverent that would smyth ye with fire and brimstone, but now every yoyo declares themselves all-knowing.

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Since: May 08

Orlando

#75755 Feb 13, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong!
What about the functions of the datelines, where you either gain or lose a day, is that not reality in your very eyes?
Spirits do exist, period.
Uh....people made those up too.

( Am I really trying to converse with this nitwit?)

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#75756 Feb 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
Good grief.
You have an actual theory? Or do you think the string theory can give you some insight.
"String theory"? No need of that there.

I was talking bog-standard astrophysics.

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The Borderland of Sol

#75757 Feb 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
That's like saying 42 is the answer to everything, life, and the universe. So what exactly is T0 +400,000 with no point of location.
Sorry, that was when the Universe was about 400,000 years old.

"T0" means "Time-Zero".

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#75758 Feb 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
what about the big bang? How does it explain T0 +400,000?
The one has nothing to do with the other.

400,000 years was the point at which the Universe became cool enough for stable atoms to form.

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#75759 Feb 13, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Imagine that?!? birds that can soar free in the sky not wanting to be in a cage....
I have a hand-raised cockatiel.

Thinks she owns the place.

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Since: Jun 11

Tempe, AZ.

#75760 Feb 13, 2013
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>"honest answer any human can" that's it in a nutshell. You are only human, how could you prove or disprove God. He's way beyond any of our comprehension. Even your all mighty science CANNOT disprove God, try as you might.
But we CAN disprove things in the Bible which is supposed to be 'God breathed' and therefore inerrant.

A number of things have already been disproved in that 'holy book'.

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#75761 Feb 13, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Then tell me how did the universe came into form? i will keep on asking you all, until then!
The silly thing is that you do not even read back as to the answers. It's not as if ou are keeping a list and put a tick down.
Since all of us have allready anwered that in varios froms and complexity.

But that is not what it is about.
What it was about is the distinction between knowledge and believe.
That a fact can be falsified but a believe per definition not.

And it's about f.i. Nostre Aetate interfaith relations and it's foolow-up where the pope writes about the new theology and that relations with muslims have greatly improved, for they graciously offerered their deserts to receive all the dead on judgement day.

That is sofar out...that it is borderline psychotic.
A totally empty gesture in real-world terms, accepted as real.

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#75762 Feb 13, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I have a hand-raised cockatiel.
Thinks she owns the place.
She does. ;] You are just there for the conveniences.

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#75763 Feb 13, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>"String theory"? No need of that there.
I was talking bog-standard astrophysics.
Aye lol.
The rest is for sparetime.

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#75764 Feb 13, 2013
thewordofme wrote:
<quoted text>
But we CAN disprove things in the Bible which is supposed to be 'God breathed' and therefore inerrant.
A number of things have already been disproved in that 'holy book'.
I always have to split up since the christian version differs notably from the hebrew one in interpretation.
And then i'm not even talking archeological fiction and fact.
According to Eusebius who ordered the bible written the world AA anno adam was a 2323 (if i recal correctly) years old in the year 108 CE.

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#75765 Feb 13, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Uh....people made those up too.
( Am I really trying to converse with this nitwit?)
Your occasional presence sofar gave me the illusion that i was doing something sensible. lol.

Shattered.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#75767 Feb 13, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>I have a hand-raised cockatiel.
Thinks she owns the place.
i have issues with birds being caged...kind of like putting dolphins and whales in little goldfish bowls like seaworld or various zoos...

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#75768 Feb 13, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow ... um ... wow. No, the simplest answer is often the correct one, and the simplest answer is that the chemical reactions are simply there, when you add in some "creator" you complicate it, a lot, a massive amount, you make it so complex that you cannot stay in the realm of reality even when you contemplate it because it doesn't fit any of the evidence at all. Just because something exists, doesn't mean it was "created."
Hi, Kit.

Cool pic!

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#75769 Feb 13, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The same Blah blah blah blah blah. Tell me if you have one single shred of evidence, how the universe came into form?
I can't speak for Thomas, but it beats the heck outta me.

So far.

Are you under the impression that your ignorance of science is somehow evidence of your deity?

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#75770 Feb 13, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>
She does. ;] You are just there for the conveniences.
Yer not wrong...

Laffin.

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Since: May 08

Orlando

#75771 Feb 13, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>Your occasional presence sofar gave me the illusion that i was doing something sensible. lol.

Shattered.
Actually, you have done very well.

It's dealing with someone with the intellect of a houseplant (or a POE) that has me guessing about their mind-set

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