Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Feb 11, 2013
 
Kanda Dogon said:
The problem with Christians, is that their try to humanized God,how can a creator looks like his creature?

Kanda Dogon, I thought you were Moslem.
I thought Moslems believe in the Old Testament, along with Jews and Christians.
I thought the Old Testament said that God created man in his own image.
So I expected you to believe that God created man in his own image.

Where did I go wrong?

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Sorry, Kanda Dogon, disregard my last post.
I just saw the post in which you said that the Bible was wrong.

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Feb 11, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
Bunch of clueless clowns.
There are miracles daily of God's healing power. You or any one else can never deny the truth, never!
So he couldn't answer the question that time either,
so he makes ANOTHER ad hom attack!

TWOM, how do you like being a clueless clown?
Let's start a Clueless Clown Club.
Hey! That alliterates!
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Feb 11, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>Typo error:
You have no clue disproving the existence of the most high.
Found a new word to throw about chaotically, eh Charles?

Think!!!$hit! Clueless! To date!!

Charles Idemi: building his English vocabulary, one empty, derogatory pose at a time!
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Feb 11, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Look before you leap!
Charles, that is the lamest rebuttal you've posted... to date!

How about "Be rational before your post!" I like that!
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Then tell me why the suicide rate is so hight in your developed countries?why the percentage of crimes is so hight?why immoraties is so spread out in your societies,why your prisons are full of so many young delinquant?why people are so stressed in your societies
why individualism and selfishness are so hight,why social values are dying?why your children are so spoiled?why your women cant find marriage anymore?why people are getting to drugs and alcohol so much?why your economic growth rate are declining and you tell that, why western countries are suffering social and identity crisis?what you may not know is that the real hapiness and pleasure of life is not reach by the accumulation of material possessions,but its reach by actions that give you the real peace of mind and conscience.if you believe that its the banning of religion that develop the living standart,health,educations..th en tell me why these conditions are developed in muslim countries like Saudia Arabia, Dubai, Qatar,Kuwai...? one of the richest countries of the world.
You realy need to learn more what is hapening in the world as you tell that islam gain most people in poor countries then explain me that:
(CNN News: 1.5 Million Americans Converted to ISLAM in USA)
(100 thousands of muslim convert in UK)
(20 thousand muslim convert every year in Usa)
(4 thousant convertion in france each years)...the number of islamic conversion in developed countries are far greater than poor countries,tell me why after the 9/11 the number of muslim converts dubled or quadrupled in Usa?tell my why? If you look at European coutries:UK,France,Germany,or China,Australia..thousand of people convert to Islam each years,explain me that! Your leaders and visionary allready know that Islam is the religion of mankind;statistics allready admid that in 50 years muslims will be majority in the world...dont blind yourself man,but the truth is the truth
I don't see that as having anything to do with truth, rather, it's public denial of truth. Religions can be quite static in nature. That why you have Arab Springs as much as you have decadence and marginalization in developed countries. Such things are proof of collusion between religion and the State.

The status quo is healthy until it stops being healthy. Then it becomes a liability. People are much like lemmings though. They do things because they fear change. Even when they know that the status quo is harmful, they'd rather keep it and hope that harm will come to others instead.

Sorry, I don't see any one faith as better than another. I just see human nature acting out as it always has. The relationships that one culture has with the economy and their neighbors is the only guiding factor. We are far away from any future "enlightenment" and are probably headed away from such a thing in this stagnated state of existence.

The last "Enlightenment" was the product of urbanization and industrialization. There are no new factors in the environment to push humanity to a higher order. When the fossil fuels run out, we're likely to fall back to a pre-industrial state and lower-population urban conditions. My guess is that you'll likely see a high amount of irrationality come to pass as the slave populations of our culture are free to self-distruct in the next dark age.

...and as usual, none of human events will have anything to do with divine intervention.

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Not knowing. I call that, ignorance.
Not knowing and admitting it is truth. Not knowing and claiming you do is the definition of ignorance.
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<quoted text>Not knowing and admitting it is truth. Not knowing and claiming you do is the definition of ignorance.
Chucky in a nutshell.

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Found a new word to throw about chaotically, eh Charles?
Think!!!$hit! Clueless! To date!!
Charles Idemi: building his English vocabulary, one empty, derogatory pose at a time!
our little cult member is growing up...*sniff*...

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I see you capitalized "FSM" and your god the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Pinky still bothering you?
Purposefully To Piss You Off.

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I see you capitalized "FSM" and "Heathen Blasphemer!(BODY SNATCHERS NOISE"
Pinky doing ok?
But FSM cannot be disproven hence he is the TRUE GOD of the universe...

RAmen.

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Higgs-Boson holds the key.
Everything else is utter bullshit.

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God creat the spirit how can he be a spirit? Human cannot imagine how great is God!look at the univers, his immensity...this is nothing compared to the sise of some of the Angel of God!
Sure they can imagine it, they created the god... this is why your god has such human traits, he was created by humans.

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Thats why i ask you to precise the religion you is talking about! Acknowledge that in the past, Christians/jews have lived 100 years in muslim countries(Egypt,lebanon,Iraq.. .) at peace and justice, they right and dignity were preserved,and even when Muslims take possession of jerusalem in the time of qalif Omar(successor of Prof. Muhamad in leagership),He gave the freedom to the jews to practice their religion;and when the prof Muhamad came at Medine(1 holy city of Mecca),he gave the freedom to the jews to practice their religion!no-one is forced to accept Islam!Because in Islam the intention is more importante than the action;If you dont practice your religion for the sake of God but to please society, then your cult is vein!...But rather to them (Jews,Christians,atheist),the message of islam is brought to them by the best maner as it is said in the Quran,If they accept they became our brothers in islam,but if they refuse they will paid a ransom to the muslim state,if they accept it, they have the freedom to practice their religion, but not openly(as the counrtry apply the Charia)then if they refuse pay the ransom, they are fought!this is according to the law(charia) of God!IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY WHO APPLY THIS LAW!I REPETE, IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY THAT APPLY THE ISLAMIC LAW! because this religion is aimed to bring humanity from darkness to the light! and everybody has the right to have this blessing!As for laic countries exp: USA,Europe,China...Muslims have no right to apply the Charia, or juge a person s religious orientation,!as the country is not an Islamic one!,the unic action they can do is to peacefully bring the message of islam to people,let them have the right to accept it or denied it; and respect people choice to disbelive or believe,thats what islam teach, not terrorism,oppression,fanatism, hatred....
when the muslims took aver the whole northern part of africa for the first time, how did they do at letting the people there practice their own religion freely? not so much huh? they slaughtered them out =right.

religions, all of them, are the bloodiest, most vilent thing humans have ever invented. islam is quickly catching up to christianity on that. only 500 years or so behind, they are making up time quickly...

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Ninthman wrote:
Higgs-Boson holds the key.
Everything else is utter bullshit.
do you have any idea what you are talking about? you usually don't...

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Cybele wrote:
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Luv is a complicated word. lol
Aye, it's the abstraction of it, though perfectly explained in bio-chemic terms. Not to the cat, although they are good listeners.
Does yours talk?

We left of with sensing being a requirement, apart from the senses that would fall under empathy.
For that we have a gene.
I quickly wrote down pg 3547 and further back, what genes and other environmental influences could be important.
Ah recal, we did not agree that food preperation as in cooking food could be of importance too.
Homo erectus 400,000 BP probably evolved a bigger brain after cooking. It tells us nothing about the inside though according to the french study there is a correlation. Haven't read it.

Why should a god that is defined as being ONE because of uniting people as One and therefore being.(Someone wrote that down much clearer, i'm making a jumbles of it. No god without people and no people without god, the unifying factor is ONE and it's a symbiotic relationship.) So what god has we have.
And that god must have evolved t thus as we did.

So how does god sense us...well by being us.
And feeling connected...empathy...gene.

Done luv;)

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>when the muslims took aver the whole northern part of africa for the first time, how did they do at letting the people there practice their own religion freely? not so much huh? they slaughtered them out =right.
religions, all of them, are the bloodiest, most vilent thing humans have ever invented. islam is quickly catching up to christianity on that. only 500 years or so behind, they are making up time quickly...
Just today a friend told me that in Nigeria they beheaded 3 south-korean doctors, and shot nine nurses, because the west is trying to kill all muslims by cullig their children with polio-vaccinations. Truly backward-thinking.

Bokha aram states that all western modernity should be banned from learning.
Wel that leaves nothing.
But i frankly never had a discussion with a muslim about evolution.
According to my visiting friend, who told me the news, they get lockdown-syndrome when even hearing the word on television.

So i noticed that kanda dogon did not answer my pertinent questions as to what stream/cult he adheres to and whether he knows anything about fiqk. That could avoid the propaganda.
Sounds like suni. With a dollop of presumed ignorance.
I only know one sort of muslim that one could talk evolution with.
That would be the ahmadhia.

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MAAT wrote:
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Just today a friend told me that in Nigeria they beheaded 3 south-korean doctors, and shot nine nurses, because the west is trying to kill all muslims by cullig their children with polio-vaccinations. Truly backward-thinking.
Bokha aram states that all western modernity should be banned from learning.
Wel that leaves nothing.
But i frankly never had a discussion with a muslim about evolution.
According to my visiting friend, who told me the news, they get lockdown-syndrome when even hearing the word on television.
So i noticed that kanda dogon did not answer my pertinent questions as to what stream/cult he adheres to and whether he knows anything about fiqk. That could avoid the propaganda.
Sounds like suni. With a dollop of presumed ignorance.
I only know one sort of muslim that one could talk evolution with.
That would be the ahmadhia.
most likely has no idea what it entails. hard to learn about that in a muslim country.

kind of like trying to learn about science when the christain church ruled...

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KandaDogon wrote:
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God creat the spirit how can he be a spirit? Human cannot imagine how great is God!look at the univers, his immensity...this is nothing compared to the sise of some of the Angel of God!
Can you cut the proselysing.
Do you have any opinions on evolution or are you going to keep on spamming and veer off-topic?

You asked out of the blue to proof whether science could damage/annul islam.
Well if they keep on killing scientist, teachers and girls that go to school, it would be the other way around, but the military everywhere is bound to be mobilised in that case.
The abstraction is another thing. It could evolve under scrutiny, be stripped of the fairytales and PR.
So the scientific method can be applied in text-critical fashion and to the history.

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>most likely has no idea what it entails. hard to learn about that in a muslim country.
kind of like trying to learn about science when the christain church ruled...
Nigeria would be mainly christian and they understand immunisation.
But when some muslim claims to have gone to university he must at least have a basic idea of these concepts or know where to find them.
So i'm not buying into it, and find poster of the annoyingly arrogant proselysing sort. As if we weren't well-stocked allready!

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