Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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Feb 11, 2013
 
Cybele wrote:
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Are you acknowledging the existence of God? I'm surprised.
Only to make Thomas Robertson pray for my misguided soul!;P

My concept does not come close to anything states here sofar,i strife.

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>one would have to be found before it could be acknowledged...
ONE would be the keyword.

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>one would have to be found before it could be acknowledged...
It seems the pope is either going to resign (the first since 600 ears) or revise the process of electing.

If i would make a defence i would say god is in the abstractions.
Words like LOVE, JUSTICE, HATE.
Hard to attack because the definition is fluid.
Connected to personal attribution and emotion.
You can attack the description, disagree.
Attack the attributions.
Attack the rituals and rules of a connected religion.
But never get rid of the concept.
And it becomes harder if the rule states that you can only say what it is not. And that would be part of that fluidity again.

I practiced really hard at being an honest to g-d atheist.
Your supposed to.

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It seems the pope is either going to resign (the first since 600 ears) or revise the process of electing.
If i would make a defence i would say god is in the abstractions.
Words like LOVE, JUSTICE, HATE.
Hard to attack because the definition is fluid.
Connected to personal attribution and emotion.
You can attack the description, disagree.
Attack the attributions.
Attack the rituals and rules of a connected religion.
But never get rid of the concept.
And it becomes harder if the rule states that you can only say what it is not. And that would be part of that fluidity again.
I practiced really hard at being an honest to g-d atheist.
Your supposed to.
Not sure I understand. love, justice and hate are human things.(well, animal things...)

what do they have to do with myths?

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Bingo. It's non-falsifiable. Just like the FSM.
RAmen...

Our Father, who art unleaven.

from colander come,

so good in my tum, alone,

or as a pasta based heaven.

sop up Your sauce with our daily bread,

and forgive us our slurps, as we forgive those that slurp around us.

lead us not into Spaghettios,

and deliver us from Boyardee,

for Thine is the kingdom, the flour, and the twirlies forever...

RAmen.

(Capitals for langy..)

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Not sure I understand. love, justice and hate are human things.(well, animal things...)
what do they have to do with myths?
things...i guess that states the point.
If god is in them we canot succeed.

Myths are just stories to convey experiences, morals, or history one is not sure of (old homer retelling as if folktales are stuck together v. young Homer that makes a well though out metric Odyssee)
If you do not take them literal i the first place, but also not totally discard them exploring can be interesting.

But something different:
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Evolution means the successive emergences in matter of the involved grades of consciousness with each gradation engineering its unique material form. To imagine that sentience emerged from insentient chemicals and that life-forms of superior information content evolved from life-forms of inferior information content is outrageously paradoxical and a shocking assault on the human intelligence.
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Someone allready stated that some creationist are totally convinced of mankinds superiority.
This is the best statement sofar that proofs that.
And the expression of the idea that a onscious of superior intelligence would thus be at work, to safe us from the indignity of being perceived as inferior.

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<quoted text>Only to make Thomas Robertson pray for my misguided soul!;P

My concept does not come close to anything states here sofar,i strife.
lol
You're so cute for saying that.:-)

But the harsh reality is that some people just don't get it. So I'm fine with denying reality back and just be in my own little world. lol

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<quoted text> Sorry!
But you have no evidence countering the existence of God.
However the evidence is building up on our side Charles. We have disproven most of Genesis, most of Exodus, and most of Joshua. We know that Moses was a fictional character. We know that the writers of the four Gospels are anonymous and were NOT eyewitnesses.

We have proven that modern humans are the last in a long line of Homo hominids therefore evolution did happen.

We know that Adam and Eve did not exist and that puts a real crimp in the need for Jesus. We can now trace human activity all over the face of the globe during prehistoric times.and it DOES NOT match up with the Bible.

So although we cant disprove God at this moment.the time is fast approaching when we WILL be able too. We're working on the Bible right now.

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Isn't it interesting ( from a sociological view ) how the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster went from religious satire to a full blown atheist/science cult in such a short period of time.

Check out the first video toward the bottom of the page.

http://www.venganza.org/

The girl is quite serious...

Quite ironic that they have become the very thing that they were mocking...lol

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Isn't it interesting ( from a sociological view ) how the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster went from religious satire to a full blown atheist/science cult in such a short period of time.
Check out the first video toward the bottom of the page.
http://www.venganza.org/
The girl is quite serious...
Quite ironic that they have become the very thing that they were mocking...lol
proof positive that people who believe in such things as gods are incredible stupid...

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xxxooxxx wrote:
Isn't it interesting ( from a sociological view ) how the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster went from religious satire to a full blown atheist/science cult in such a short period of time.
Check out the first video toward the bottom of the page.
http://www.venganza.org/
The girl is quite serious...
Quite ironic that they have become the very thing that they were mocking...lol
(Right under "Pennsylvanian Pastafarians fight for Holiday Display")

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xxxooxxx wrote:
Isn't it interesting ( from a sociological view ) how the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster went from religious satire to a full blown atheist/science cult in such a short period of time.
Check out the first video toward the bottom of the page.
http://www.venganza.org/
The girl is quite serious...
Quite ironic that they have become the very thing that they were mocking...lol
It is quite a great mocking of the religion cults, though.

and it clearly points out the ridiculous nature of religion in general.

remember, the existence of the universe and Earth are proof positive that the FSM exists....you said as much yourself...

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Satanists Hold Ritual to Mock Christianity in Oklahoma City

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2010/10/24/sa...

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Satanists Hold Ritual to Mock Christianity in Oklahoma City
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2010/10/24/sa...
Good for them... the cults need as much mocking as they can get...

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<quoted text>Good for them... the cults need as much mocking as they can get...
So you approve of satanists, but disapprove of christianity.

Interesting.

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So you approve of satanists, but disapprove of christianity.
Interesting.
you really think they believe in satan? you are too gullible.

poerhaps the stupid ones do, but like you said, they are doing it to mock. i approve of mocking cults. just like the FSM cult is a great way to mock the major cults on this planet and point out their ridiculous ways...
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So you approve of satanists, but disapprove of christianity.

Interesting.
Satanists are Christians. He is a purely Judeo-Christian-Islam concept. Outside of your religion he does not exist.

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proof positive that people who believe in such things as gods are incredible stupid...
Some Believers seem to take the statement "Nobody could possibly be that stupid" as a challenge.
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<quoted text> Logically speaking, no one can disprove God, but people can asserts, rants etc.
As pretty much anything can be appointed as a god from a dead pharoah to a volcano to a goat it would be difficult to entirely disprove his existence. Now to prove that any one god concept is correct... or even to properly define what a god is...

Anything as powerful as a creator god would take no interest whatsoever in the affairs of man. We would be little more than viruses to such a being.
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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>that is incorrect. the Serbs wanted to keep their christian othodox state alive. as they had against ottoman rule. the Croats were catholics that didn't want to be ruled by the christian orthodxy.

where did you hear the mulims there were alquada style terrorists?

for some good intel on the area , read the book "Balkan Ghosts" by Robert Kaplan.

or just goolge if you want to become moderately informed...
You confuse nationalism with religion.

The Serbs wanted to hold Yugoslavia together (Milosevic was the Lincoln of the conflict).

The Croats wanted their independence from Belgrade (much like Washington, Franklin, Jefferson...).

It was only the Bosniak Moslem radicals whose main agenda was religious (the Bin Ladens of the conflict).

Naturally the Clinton administration aligned itself with the enemies of western secular civilization.

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