Evolution vs. Creation

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008. Read more

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#75052 Feb 10, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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Well, no, actually this one case where Charles is right. Agnosticism would be a more faithless point of view. Atheism simply is a faith where one is convinced that no external intelligence is involved in the activities of the universe. It can't really be proven therefore it IS faith.
I get what you mean though. Charles is simply incapable of facing the universe on terms that he can't anthropomorphize.
Look before you leap!

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#75053 Feb 10, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Hardly.
it is the realization that the idea of a creator doesn't even come into play until there is at least some shred of evidence of such.
See? A lack of any belief. relying on the facts in front of us.
Oh, by the way...i love all your quotes, anonymous. you must be very, very old. do you chalk it up to good living?
No single shred of evidence can invalidate or disprove the existence of God.

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#75054 Feb 10, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>it is not a nonbelief. it is that it isn't even a wuestion until some evidence for the myth exists.
do you consideer yourself an Aeasterbunnyest? do you wake up every morning and ponder the possibility of a bunny delivering colored eggs and chocolate around the planet?
getr serious. join the 21st century.
Good created the universe!
Is that too big for you head to absorb?

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#75055 Feb 10, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i sure could have, but any decent scientist would be able to tell. this is why all the "proof" of Ufos, has, as yet, not provided on iota of verifiable evidence of such.
you are fighting a lost argument.
why do you believe in crop circles created by UFOs when they have been proven to be created by humans? is it that easy to ignore reality for you? is it htat embarrassing for you to admit you were duped?
I was only questioning your logic of assumption...That if one crop circle is made by people, that all crop circles are made by people...

and your calling this logical deduction?lol

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#75056 Feb 10, 2013
The Biophysics of Crop Circles

If an artificial or electromagnetic energy source is interacting with the natural cycle of plants, it is perfectly natural to assume the effect is verifiable at the microscopic level.

In 1988 Andrews and Delgado sent plant samples from crop circles, together with controls, to Signalysis laboratory in Stroud, England. The samples were processed by Kenneth and Rosemary Spelman in accordance with a procedure approved in the German Government's "Pharmacopoeia for Homeopathy" for spagyric preparations- a process normally used in the diagnosis of human blood samples. The method allows for the crystalline structure of fluid to be examined under a microscope.

Their results revealed how the irregular pattern in control samples had taken on a strict structuring pattern inside crop circles - energy of some type had changed the plants' crystalline structure. A separate barrage of tests on samples from a crop circle in Argonne, Illinois, by molecular biologist Kevin Folta, even showed that the plant DNA was considerably more degraded than the controls.

After the Spelmans' tantalizing report was published, Pat Delgado was contacted by another interested party, this time from Michigan, hoping to follow up on what the initial UK experiments had started.

Dr. W. C. Levengood is a respected biophysicist. Over the course of his multi-disciplinary career he has conducted investigations into such areas as the effects of solar and cosmic rays on the reproduction of living organisms, and the relationship between ion transport and vigour selection in seeds. In addition to his worldwide reputation he holds six patents and has written fifty peer-reviewed papers.

Levengood's curiosity led him to investigate the possibility of molecular changes in crop circle plants. After thousands of hours of field work and laboratory studies on hundreds of crop circles, as well as controlled man-made scientific experiments and tests on control samples, a series of statistically significant anomalies were detected.

...Levengood concluded that "the energy mechanism producing quantitative alterations in the plant stem nodes falls within the framework of a straight-forward and widely applied principal of physics [Beer's Law] dealing with the absorption of electromagnetic energy by matter," strongly suggesting that an energy source "originating in the microwave region" had boiled the water inside the plants' nodes, effectively transforming it into steam.

more
http://www.cropcirclesecrets.org/biophysical....

The fake crop circles cannot even replicate the microwave effect on the crops. No human technology can even match it. Go figure!

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#75057 Feb 10, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>so how do you feel about kandadogon's posts? i don't see you defending his views of the same god you worship. why is that?
your religious cult isn't inherently divisive, is it? is it?
c'mon, this should be really funny...
Islam, like Christianity and Judaism are both Abrahamic religions that believes in the existence of God.
The difference between them, are their mode of worship.

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#75058 Feb 10, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>When in fact, most of the areas that are now predominently Muslim WERE taken by force. bloody, ruthless force.
this is the way of allreligions. believe what I believe or I will kill you in the name of my god...
classic.
"the way of all religions are bloody and ruthless."

why do you propagate such obvious mis-information?

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#75059 Feb 10, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>Good created the universe!
Is that too big for you head to absorb?
Typo:
I meant that, God created the universe!
Is that too big for your head to absorb, Woodtick?
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#75060 Feb 10, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>Good created the universe!
Is that too big for you head to absorb?
The first sentence in the Bible," God created the heavens and the earth". God said that? Or, human imagination did? Just because a story is in black and white with drawings and fables galore doesn't make it real or true. Humans are gullible and easily influenced by others. Products of their environments. Brainwashing is a term that comes to mind......cult also.
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#75061 Feb 10, 2013

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#75063 Feb 10, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>The first sentence in the Bible," God created the heavens and the earth". God said that? Or, human imagination did? Just because a story is in black and white with drawings and fables galore doesn't make it real or true. Humans are gullible and easily influenced by others. Products of their environments. Brainwashing is a term that comes to mind......cult also.
Your are the ignorant. Now tell me how the universe came into form?

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#75064 Feb 10, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>The first sentence in the Bible," God created the heavens and the earth". God said that? Or, human imagination did? Just because a story is in black and white with drawings and fables galore doesn't make it real or true. Humans are gullible and easily influenced by others. Products of their environments. Brainwashing is a term that comes to mind......cult also.
Science says that the the heavens and the earth made themselves.

Which is more believable?

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#75065 Feb 10, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>The first sentence in the Bible," God created the heavens and the earth". God said that? Or, human imagination did? Just because a story is in black and white with drawings and fables galore doesn't make it real or true. Humans are gullible and easily influenced by others. Products of their environments. Brainwashing is a term that comes to mind......cult also.
Do you know that human imaginations were the results of science and technology, though it was God's divine inspired knowledge. This is the same with the creation's account.
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#75066 Feb 10, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Your are the ignorant. Now tell me how the universe came into form?
BY GODS GREAT HANDS!!!!!!A bunch of BS! Its not a good feeling to admit one was brainwashed, its painful. But, it part of being human, read and believe, simple human. It takes smart, intelligent humans to see past the story and realize human existence is not because of some words in a book. Like it or not, humans were created and engineered by advanced alien beins. Not some Bible character. Not from some monkey DNA. Its a question of what created the universe.....the world was flat at one time according to some humans awhile back.Explain that.

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#75067 Feb 10, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Bias assumption is not fact.
It's not an assumption, nor is it biased. We are incredibly resilient and resourceful, not to mention having the incredible temptation to just mess with other people's minds is too much for some.

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#75068 Feb 10, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>Good created the universe!
Is that too big for you head to absorb?
no, the fact ath there is no v=evidence of any god ogds or gddesses ever seems too big for yours. the fact that your religion is based on proven lies seems something you are not willing to admit...

pretty cult like of you, huh?

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#75069 Feb 10, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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"the way of all religions are bloody and ruthless."
why do you propagate such obvious mis-information?
it is, in fact, a provable truth.

look at the history of religions even up to this very day. bloody and ruthless.
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#75070 Feb 10, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Do you know that human imaginations were the results of science and technology, though it was God's divine inspired knowledge. This is the same with the creation's account.
Lets get this right...Jesus walked on water, split the sea, and turned water into wine.....and then they crucified him.....nice. And that seems true because...? Listen CI, if believing that God created everything keeps you sain.....fantastic. Life is hard, reality is harder. Remember when you were a child and friends were everywhere.....its called imagination....like the Bible story. You feel something is there, now your an adult, your just not sure what is make believe or reality.....its called life.

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#75071 Feb 10, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> No single shred of evidence can invalidate or disprove the existence of God.
first it has to be even suggested by some evidence.

you could say the same about the easter bunny,does that mean the ester bunny is real? no myths are not real.
why is it after all the requests you cannot show one verifiable shred of evidence that any god , gods or goddesses have ever existed? why not even one shred?

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#75072 Feb 10, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>BY GODS GREAT HANDS!!!!!!A bunch of BS! Its not a good feeling to admit one was brainwashed, its painful. But, it part of being human, read and believe, simple human. It takes smart, intelligent humans to see past the story and realize human existence is not because of some words in a book. Like it or not, humans were created and engineered by advanced alien beins. Not some Bible character. Not from some monkey DNA. Its a question of what created the universe.....the world was flat at one time according to some humans awhile back.Explain that.
Read the bible for comprehension.
The bible mentioned a circular or round earth in the book of Isa. 41.

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