yes, and all of those show that your little crop circles are fakes. made by human that know other humans are easily duped by what they want to belive, regardless of the obvious facts.<quoted text>
I'm not indoctrinate in anything.
as far as proof...intrinsic, intelligent processes readily observable and testable, that exist all around is the proof.If that's what you need.
religion and fatih in gods and spirits falls into the same category. baseless in facts and used to subjegatethe weak minded...