Evolution vs. Creation

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#74902 Feb 9, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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This is a case where reading back won't do anyone any good.
Hello, how do you do.
My name is MAAT.
Counter that defence(defense) if you can, Maat.

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#74903 Feb 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>if htey think some god is directly protecting them form harm, yes.
this is not a healthy mind.
And yet people of different academic backgrounds, go to them for counseling.
You are indeed a sick fellow.

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#74904 Feb 9, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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where is the video that shows they did this overnight in the dark?
there are many of them on the interweb...

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#74905 Feb 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>No that is anot what the atheists i know say. they do not have any faith.
Then why then do some scientist believe in the existence of God and others( atheist) do not, if it is not a form of faith?

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#74906 Feb 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>there are many of them on the interweb...
That's right you got none.

Go ahead and be a skeptic. That doesn't stop the government and scientists from using reverse engineering. It is being done for many decades now. They are the ones who will keep up with alien technology and not you.

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#74907 Feb 9, 2013
A post filled with fallacies that charles applauded.
Poster has not brought one correct point forwards, so therefore the logic in the arguement is lost, and the conclusions is wrong.
Charles:
is was correct implying true because GOD, and inserts various in between.
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>No, no he hasn't. you are delusional.
seriously if you brought these thoughts to any credible psychologist, he would think you are mentally ill.
Charles:
Poor you. And yet there are numerous credible psychologist that are christians. You must really be a sick fellow.
MAAT:
Such judgement.
And such outspoke ideas.
That's a very thin line your threading there.
(Since Charles implies that psychology implies bias, in this case to agreeing with him, if the pshychologist would be a christian, because Woodtick disagrees with his estimation.)
Woodtick57:
yes there are, but if yo tell them you think you are being directly protected by some god, they will diagnose you as mentally ill. you really should seek counseling. you seem mentally unstable.

in between:
woodtick57 wrote (universe form):
<quoted text>i have, many times. no human knows. any that say otherwise is lying.
Charles:
Is this not foolish, and we all know that the universe came into form, this is just ignorance on the part of atheist, because we definitely have scientist that believes in the existence of God.
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Well they would be scientist and distinguish between believe and knowledge, or the science is bad. But again Charles implies bias on their part.
Well and all of this becomes an unholy muddle.
Charles:
Atheist psychologists.....you arre lying nevermind what you say.



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#74908 Feb 9, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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That's right you got none.
Go ahead and be a skeptic. That doesn't stop the government and scientists from using reverse engineering. It is being done for many decades now. They are the ones who will keep up with alien technology and not you.
no, i have seen many. you can find them if you want to.
crops circles are a hoax. htey are not created by ufos.

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#74909 Feb 9, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Then why then do some scientist believe in the existence of God and others( atheist) do not, if it is not a form of faith?
The science isn't.
And bias has no place in science.
So whatever believe is irrelevant for the science.

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#74910 Feb 9, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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That's right you got none.
Go ahead and be a skeptic. That doesn't stop the government and scientists from using reverse engineering. It is being done for many decades now. They are the ones who will keep up with alien technology and not you.
wow! that took 30 seconds...I'm beat!

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel...

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#74911 Feb 9, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Then why then do some scientist believe in the existence of God and others( atheist) do not, if it is not a form of faith?
you just gave why it isn't faith, they do not believe..

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#74912 Feb 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>no, i have seen many. you can find them if you want to.
crops circles are a hoax. htey are not created by ufos.
To be honest, I don't really give. Just because you've seen the hoaxes, doesn't mean all are fake. Alien technology is still real whether you want to admit it or not.

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#74913 Feb 9, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Counter that defence(defense) if you can, Maat.
It's a result of convoluted sloppy thinking, based on introduced bias, and is therefore illogical. Has no logical answer.

done

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#74914 Feb 9, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Challenge that!
I am waiting.
Atheism just another form of faith, trying to use science to disprove God, but can they succeed, never!!!
One cannot prove a negative. it is logically impossible until everything aobut the universe is known.

what you are fogetting is that there is not one shred of evic=dence that any god, gods or goddesses exists. it is not amatter of belief or disbelief, it is that is is not even a question yet.

when you get that first shred of evidence, then it will be open for discussion.

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#74915 Feb 9, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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That's right you got none.
Go ahead and be a skeptic. That doesn't stop the government and scientists from using reverse engineering. It is being done for many decades now. They are the ones who will keep up with alien technology and not you.
Ummmm, there is no alien technology that humans know of...

sorry to destroy your myth.

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#74916 Feb 9, 2013
This is the entire point Charles:
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>if htey think some god is directly protecting them form harm, yes.
this is not a healthy mind.
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That would be the other thin line between reading too much in symbols or events happening to you.
To such an extent that it interferes with your capacity to judge facts and real life occurences.
That means also scientific statements that have no religion, faith, believe or whatsoever included.
They get inappropriate emotional reactions or are seen in the light of the persons believe and consistently labeled in that way.
And the person is not capable of changing this behaviour. Can't be flexible, it is stronger than the person.

A phychologist should not be biassed.
Find another one, in that case.

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#74917 Feb 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Ummmm, there is no alien technology that humans know of...
sorry to destroy your myth.
Yes because it's top secret. And I'm not sharing anymore too even if this progresses to something since nobody wants evidence anyway. I gotta go

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#74918 Feb 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>One cannot prove a negative. it is logically impossible until everything aobut the universe is known.
what you are fogetting is that there is not one shred of evic=dence that any god, gods or goddesses exists. it is not amatter of belief or disbelief, it is that is is not even a question yet.
when you get that first shred of evidence, then it will be open for discussion.
Add to that that you can also not proof or disproof an abstraction.
Especially not when the definition can include N to the neverending claims. That might also be contradictory.

So that's not what we do.

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#74919 Feb 9, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Yes because it's top secret. And I'm not sharing anymore too even if this progresses to something since nobody wants evidence anyway. I gotta go
if it's top secret how do you know about it? logic fail....

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#74920 Feb 9, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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To be honest, I don't really give. Just because you've seen the hoaxes, doesn't mean all are fake. Alien technology is still real whether you want to admit it or not.
No. no proof of any alien technology has ever been provided. no proof of aliens ever visiting our puddly little planet has ever been given.

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#74922 Feb 9, 2013
KandaDogon wrote:
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1-Not all prophets are discovered after their death: prophet Moses were recognised by the israelis as messenger of God and a prophet,Prophet Muhamad after 50 years of fight against him,have been recognised by the all the arabs as a messenger of Gof and a prophet...another reason is that prophets are always belied by mankind when they bring a message that are against their lusts and desires, thats why somany prophets like John,Zacharia... were killed by jews;and they have tied to kill prophet Jeremiah,Jesus...thats why some prophets are famous and others not famous.
2-What you forget is that religions(Islam,Christianity,j udaism) are divine laws,revelations to mankind that are to be applied societies for equality,justice,morality,hapi ness...between humans then a systeme of governance where its the creator the leader not human being using and exploiting another human being; But the Christians and jews separated religion from the governance thats why our societies are like that, one group of person oppress,exploit,enslave,impose their ideals to another group of people,the world to the most rich,most stronger...revelations are divine instruction books that are given to creatures in order to understant the reason of their existance as the instruction note of a new device,but if you refuse to apply the instruction,how will work the device.
3-If a freethinker has knowledge about a religion than people who claim to be followers, then acknowledge that not all the followers of a religions have knowledge,and that its not a reason to deny the authencity of this religion.religion is not something to follow blindly you have make researsh on his authencity.
3-Islam is not like christianity,the christians have killed many scientists when they admit their discories,Gallilea acused of blasphemy killed because he admited that the earth is spiral,in Spain,a woman have been treated as witch and burn alive when she resolved difficult mathematical calculation....But look at what prophet muhamad said to his companion:
"The seeking of knowledge is obligatory for every Muslim."
One who treads a path in search of knowledge has his path to Paradise made easy by God
"Acquire knowledge and impart it to the people."
"Go back to your people and teach them."
"The word of wisdom is the lost property of the believer, so wherever he finds it he has a better right to it."
'Seek knowledge even as far as China' there are tooo much i cant tell you all, its to tell you that islam is a religion of knowledge,havent you year about the boom of islamic sciences,wisdom during medieval times?all these terrorist,murderer are not te representatives of islam, dont dont jugde a religion by the actions of his followers but searsh about the message of this religion(Holy book).
You all worship the same god myth ( the abrahamic god)
yes, the koran may talk about being open to science but in practice, just like the other religions they are not, as knowledge is a death knell for regligious cults like yours.

remember that persia, used to be the pinnacle of scientific thought until islam took over...same thing as europe and their religious experience..the dark ages.

aint your cults grand!

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