Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Jan 6, 2011, Best of New Orleans story titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#74767 Feb 9, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>Heavens !
There is a big dichotomy between heaven and the earth.
Well someone with good eyesight and on a perfect night can see about 1020 or some small number.
From some verse we learn that heaven is just behind the stars. Christian thinking and i think it was in christian revelation.

Well what dichotomy would their be between heaven and earth in your (christian) definition of the two.
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In Judaism it's just a plain with a garden in proper translation near or along a river on the plain=eden. From the Akkadian.
So you would never look up specifically for g-d, there would be no point.
Earth-fertile soil
In judaism the allusion to heaven can mean:
-Redemption, being set free.
-the actual heavens to know what day it is
-A spiritual life.
-the temple and all this represents
and some more.
Earth :
-Bound, formed live.
-fertile soil
-material concerns that take one away from the inner reflection
-Government
and some more.

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#74768 Feb 9, 2013
Allah is one.
Is the most stressed tenet.

You have a trinity, and no matter how you expkain, since jesus was a man, it will never be one with god.

You have to think in terms of responsibility, not superior or inferior.

What israel made unique was their personal relation with their god. And the promise that they wold get a hous if they gave their god a house, land ditto, people ditto. That's the pledge and thus again about responsibility.

Other believes and gods(esses) nature-spirits are mentioned allover the book and often united under the old monarchy.
Under duress, we get this extreme demand to be free from other influences and we get the literature that stresses this. So a reflection of the occupation and/or foreign rule people endured.
This is what judaism is often equated with. Wrongly since taken out of the context.

Elaha or eloha is a feminin noun. Elohim the plural gets a male ending. We find this reversal also going the other way in other nouns.
It's also a lawbook and elohim is used as judges or all the gods(esses and NSp)united or even more general also including women. The court, the peoples-court.
So you might get Mary, the spirit, and jesus in a concept of Eohim but never in a ONEGOD.

Judaism also holds that yo can only say what god is not.
What if you pinned G-d down to a definition and then something bad happens to it...you've killed god!

Next time be a bit more precise as to what you do not get. Saves time. HAHAHA.... who am i kidding.

MAAT wrote:
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Interesting, that's f.i. the islamic definition.
So you never really understood: hold none above me.
Nor of the mutual deal with the people of Israel, provide home and a safe house and be all as one i.e. bonded, pledged.
That it especially does not imply inferiority of other believes in devinity or power.
If Jesus and the spirit also have to find a place and since eloha is female, and purely because of grammar elohim becomes plural with a male ending.

CD wrote:Please be plain in your explanation. I am not getting you.

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#74769 Feb 9, 2013
Anyone reading it has to admit that i included a lot of plain. i hope it was plain enough. ;P

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#74770 Feb 9, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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It's futile to argue about the existence of God with fun-dies. He exists in everything! Even in a jelly fish with no brains.
imo.It's rather about the strange definition fundies of all faiths can have. And how fundies at the same time are not capable of thinking in terms of responsibility and consequences.

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#74771 Feb 9, 2013
http://www.angmalta.net/clients/alan/existenc ...
A SCIENTIFIC APPROACH TO THE PROBLEM OF CONTINUED EXISTENCE AFTER PHYSICAL DEATH
Three consecutive papers.
Alan Baldwin

http://universe-review.ca/F05-galaxy.htm
Summary of the latest studies.
(QMG is out note to self)

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christ ...
The Catholic Church's Respons to Our Critique of Christian Credibility.
Lawrence Kelemen
About the main difference between judaism and christianity. And the Vatican's point of view.
Entertaining!

http://www.theology.edu/journal/volume3/messa ...
The Message Of The Hebrew Wisdom Literature.

On John and pslam 82
https://www.3.nd.edu/~jneyrey1/Gods.html
The first christians calling themselves gods.
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Aramaic peshitta's original did not have 'son of god' but 'sons of the governor'.
The term got wrongly interpreted and than this stuck.

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#74772 Feb 9, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>
Well someone with good eyesight and on a perfect night can see about 1020 or some small number.
From some verse we learn that heaven is just behind the stars. Christian thinking and i think it was in christian revelation.
Well what dichotomy would their be between heaven and earth in your (christian) definition of the two.
---
In Judaism it's just a plain with a garden in proper translation near or along a river on the plain=eden. From the Akkadian.
So you would never look up specifically for g-d, there would be no point.
Earth-fertile soil
In judaism the allusion to heaven can mean:
-Redemption, being set free.
-the actual heavens to know what day it is
-A spiritual life.
-the temple and all this represents
and some more.
Earth :
-Bound, formed live.
-fertile soil
-material concerns that take one away from the inner reflection
-Government
and some more.
Babel fish!
Only dead fish go with the flow!

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#74773 Feb 9, 2013
Alien Outlaw wrote:
<quoted text>500 years ago if woodtick would have stood up and said, "One day we shalt fly to the moon". Woodtick would have been stoned. Today if the word alien is mentioned its the same old story, grab some tinfoil, swamp gas, light refraction, crazy people, lights in the sky.....on and on. We are not the ones talking to a ghost(GOD) and having the ghost talk back. If someone says they saw God, everybody on earth would believe them. Its ok, we don't live in the past, we are looking light years ahead....the future looks bright. Deep space is the code we live by!
hardly, outlaw. its just that one needs some teeny shred of proof if you want to be taken seriously...

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#74774 Feb 9, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Wrong.
Many humans know.
Not one has been able to show it yet. not one.

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#74775 Feb 9, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Lying?
How can some one lie in the name of death?
I am telling you some thing that happened to me, yet you refused to believe. God is real. Period.
i'm glad you think something happened to you, but if you think you talked to some god, you should seek counseling...

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#74776 Feb 9, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Babel fish!
Only dead fish go with the flow!
You've obviously never been steelhead fishing, or really river trout fishing at all. a hooked fish always goes with the flow.

See how real world observations help make our woprld more clear, while old myths and sayings just muddle the waters?

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#74777 Feb 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>i'm glad you think something happened to you, but if you think you talked to some god, you should seek counseling...
Another Babel fish!
God delivered me at the point of death, when i managed to call on him, this is a proof of his existence.

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#74778 Feb 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>You've obviously never been steelhead fishing, or really river trout fishing at all. a hooked fish always goes with the flow.
See how real world observations help make our woprld more clear, while old myths and sayings just muddle the waters?
The point was that Maat, what ever his name is, is speaking gibberish just like you.

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#74779 Feb 9, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The point was that Maat, what ever his name is, is speaking gibberish just like you.
the point is you do not know about the real world around you. you rely on wrong myths and stories...

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#74780 Feb 9, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Another Babel fish!
God delivered me at the point of death, when i managed to call on him, this is a proof of his existence.
yeah, i was almost dead for a few minutes also.

you did not die. you were not called back. you just didn't die. the brain does funny things when it is running out of oxygen and nerve impulses.

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#74781 Feb 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yeah, i was almost dead for a few minutes also.
you did not die. you were not called back. you just didn't die. the brain does funny things when it is running out of oxygen and nerve impulses.
Reporting personal encounters with god or angels is together with 'alien' u.f.o.'s the most favourite attribution.

And on this site it's hearing unintelligible voices, or speaking in tongues when meeting with the indigenous population of evo's.

You make it nice and short. They do not get it.
You explain, since they can never explain what they do not understand.
And then you provide links to sites, that should make some firm DING DONGS in their resounding skulls, but a dull thud would be it!

You can't fix stupid. You can't think for it. You can't read for it. And i think they haven't invented the learning method yet.
On a par with proving god, because he is in your head or face taking the meds.

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#74782 Feb 9, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The point was that Maat, what ever his name is, is speaking gibberish just like you.
Therefore i provide links. Click...read...scroll..read, repeat till done.

You claim GOD to actually exist, so we ask proof.
You ignore the questions we ask and so can't understand us.
Your attributions are not proof to us, especially not in a moment when the brain start failing.

Why can't you like Dogen state that you have had mystical experiences and more of these phenomena.
Because you did not.

BUT NO...YOU CLAIM GOD!
Who else should we ask.
We've read the books.

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#74783 Feb 9, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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Reporting personal encounters with god or angels is together with 'alien' u.f.o.'s the most favourite attribution.
And on this site it's hearing unintelligible voices, or speaking in tongues when meeting with the indigenous population of evo's.
You make it nice and short. They do not get it.
You explain, since they can never explain what they do not understand.
And then you provide links to sites, that should make some firm DING DONGS in their resounding skulls, but a dull thud would be it!
You can't fix stupid. You can't think for it. You can't read for it. And i think they haven't invented the learning method yet.
On a par with proving god, because he is in your head or face taking the meds.
the alien abduction thing, being a cultural phenomenon, not a world-wide one is one of my favorites...

i gues the aliens are only interested in probing people from certain cultures...

sure...

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#74786 Feb 9, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>the alien abduction thing, being a cultural phenomenon, not a world-wide one is one of my favorites...
i gues the aliens are only interested in probing people from certain cultures...
sure...
yup...
They did notice that Americans are on to them, so they relocated to England.
Overthere they force people to walk in circles over grainfields.

Less invasive, though most farmers would disagree.
go rilla

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#74787 Feb 9, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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Your lack of education on the subject does not invalidate the presence of the evidence for evolution.
Get used to disappointment.
just like your parents when you were born

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#74790 Feb 9, 2013
MAAT wrote:
<quoted text>yup...
They did notice that Americans are on to them, so they relocated to England.
Overthere they force people to walk in circles over grainfields.
Less invasive, though most farmers would disagree.
and even after the people who made the crop circles came out and admitted they did it, and showed how they did it, people still claimed it was from UFOs...

religious cultism runs deep...

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