Evolution vs. Creation

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#74610 Feb 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>how 'bout the Neandertals?
oh that's right hominids on the Earth at the same time as humans, but your god didn't create them...hmmm
Were they created by the other gods that your jealous god mentioned ?
Neanderthals!
Another guess or projections.
Human is human and seen is believing.

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#74611 Feb 7, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Somewhere these boneheads came up with the idea that if you don't believe in their theoretical ideologies of such things as big bangs and evolution, that you denying everyday science such as cars, computers etc.lol
*blink*

What?

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#74612 Feb 7, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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God would be denied even with overwhelming scientific evidence.
(admitted by more than one evolutionist on this forum.)
So the request is a little redundant, don't ya think?
No.

Produce proof of a deity, and I'll change my beliefs. Naturally.
To do otherwise, as you do, would be an insane denial or reality.

Of course, if the deity in question is the Abrahamic one, I'm immediately joining the Resistance.

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#74613 Feb 7, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Do You Capitalize the Word "God"?
One of the most common questions people ask about religious words is whether to capitalize the word “god.”
The name of any specific deity is capitalized just like any other name, so when “God” is used to refer to “the one God,”(in other words, in any monotheistic religion) it is capitalized.
For example, you’d capitalize “God” in this sentence:
Some Christians give thanks to God before every meal.
When referring to gods in general, however, or using the word "god" descriptively, keep it lowercase:
The Romans believed a god named Jupiter ruled the heavens.
The Greek gods were always causing trouble for humans.
The same rule holds true for Yahweh, Allah, Zeus, and the names of gods in other religions. They are capitalized.
Stolen without attribution from, of all things, "Grammar Girl"...

http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/do-you-c...

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The Borderland of Sol

#74614 Feb 7, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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http://atheism.about.com/od/doesgodexist/a/ca...
"Indeed, it would be rather juvenile to misspell God simply in order to insult theists. If such an atheist had so little respect for another person, why even waste the time writing to them in the first place, much less deliberately trying to hurt them at the same time? "
I generally use "deity" - and all gods are the same.

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#74615 Feb 7, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Where in space? Can you point them out?
Of course you do know amino acids are not alive right?
Oh, dear.

From NASA: http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/featur...

"In the study, scientists with the Astrobiology Analytical Laboratory at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., analyzed samples from fourteen carbon-rich meteorites with minerals that indicated they had experienced high temperatures in some cases, over 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. They found amino acids, which are the building blocks of proteins, used by life to speed up chemical reactions and build structures like hair, skin, and nails."

From the IOP: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2003...

"...the discovery of glycine is the first step in establishing the crucial link between amino acids in space and the emergence of life in the solar system or, indeed, elsewhere in the galaxy. The molecular spectra seen in interstellar gas clouds closely matches those found in comets and meteorites, and comparing them could in principle allow astronomers - or exobiologists - to trace the origin of the Earth's early chemistry to its parent gas cloud."

From almost 10 million results in less than a quarter of a second.

And of course amino acids aren't alive - they're just essential to life as we know it.

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#74616 Feb 7, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
"there would have been organic molecules"
There is no proof of that.
A mere guess of what might have been 4 billions years ago.
Rain and rocks that's all there was.
No atmosphere, no air, no oxygen.
Just rain and rocks.
You really don't get it, do you?

Life is chemistry, child.

Level 1

Since: Feb 13

Riverside , CA

#74617 Feb 8, 2013
Unlike what some crazy clueless yahoos might say. Evolution is fact and has been proven over and over again. And if anyone thinks they can disprove it, wright it down, get it peer reviewed, and collect your nobel prize and the millions of dollars being offered by several organizations to dis prove it...

End of story ...

Level 1

Since: Feb 13

Riverside , CA

#74618 Feb 8, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Yes fossil records do support evolution. The fossil record supports the ascent of homo sapiens for about 4 million years in an unbroken chain of transition. The genetic record goes even further.
My hobby is the study of a small section of that 4 million years. Cro-Magnon man, only a few tens of thousand years but there is considerable evolutionary skeletal and cranial difference between those early h. sapiens and modern h. sapiens.
Its not what someone told me but what I can see with my own eyes, feel with my own hands and measure using my intellect.
In my understanding of those studies I have also looked (with my own eyes) at the fossil and geological evidence that takes me back half a million years.
The record exists, I have seen some of it, it is not that someone told me its that I HAVE SEEN IT
P.S. the skull you see as my avatar is a transitional artefact. I have held it, I have examined it, I have compared it to a modern skull of the same species and I have compared to fragments of a 38,000 years old skull o the same species. It lies in between, it is transitional between the two. That species is us, homo sapiens, human beings.
Totally Agree !!!

And hey you cant argue with that Yahoo, he thinks he knows it all and only what he know is true despite scientific evidence that says other wise...
Zackly

Pass Christian, MS

#74619 Feb 8, 2013
Eloteman wrote:
Theory is just that , not a fact
A theory has full disclosure and reliability and it should gradually become more effective at generating new knowledge. The reasoning of SCP concept has brought about new discoveries that here to fore was thought impossible and US patents have been issued which prove the concept of systems cycling in nature that produce patterned results.

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Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#74620 Feb 8, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The combinations of two or more numbers, will give us a word or sentences.
I see. You write words and sentences with numbers. Unusual.

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Seffner, FL

#74621 Feb 8, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>halfway tween...yeah we need snow the deeper the better, the colder the better....
Enjoy. I'll be off to cruise the islands this weekend.

:-)
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#74622 Feb 8, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Nice response!
When God takes away his breathe of life from you, you look like a log of wood.
THINK Charles! When god takes away his log of wood from you, you look like his breath of life! To date!

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Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#74623 Feb 8, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>I love that! "sort of half watched..."
that's why I gave up TV so long ago...i used to sort of half watch $60/month of crap....
I dont really watch much TV but kids means its usually on in the background. Shame I was busy though I like the Horizon programmes.

Dont know much about the commercialism of TV over the pond but here there is the freeview or freesat options which as you can guess from their names are free.
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#74624 Feb 8, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> No!
I am only telling you will end up with others before you, as manure or nutrients to the soil, while the works of God will continue.
So will manure! Just saying!

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#74625 Feb 8, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> More and more of rants will ever change who the almighty God is. You are going to end up like others, adding more nutrients to the soil.
Wrong, more and more information will NEVER educate you.

Yup, thats life, you live then you rot (or burn) and eventually every single atom of your body will go into creating a new star. Great aint it?

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#74626 Feb 8, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> God almighty is the first or beginning( creator) and the last or end( judgement) also known as the Alpha and the Omega. Go on with your ignorance.
Nope.

There were several hundred, probably more than a thousand gods before your first god popped up. Jeessus fooking christ on a crutch, even your babble admits to about 30 odd of them so you appear to be calling your babble lies right?

So tell me who is being ignorant here? Me who can list the gods that show up in mythology BEFORE your god was even thought of or you who makes your statement from the point of incredulity

And as to what you want to adopt the Greek language for is entirely up to you.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#74627 Feb 8, 2013
Zackly wrote:
<quoted text>A theory has full disclosure and reliability and it should gradually become more effective at generating new knowledge. The reasoning of SCP concept has brought about new discoveries that here to fore was thought impossible and US patents have been issued which prove the concept of systems cycling in nature that produce patterned results.
Bull.

Shit.

What "new discoveries that here to fore (sic) was thought impossible and US patents" are attributed to to your private, little philosophy?

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Since: Nov 10

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#74628 Feb 8, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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No they don't.
It shows that many, many species don't change at all. There is no evidence of transition from one to another whatsoever. That is what the fossil record shows.
The gaps are still great gulfs. How long do we need to fill in the gaps? A 1000 years?
Bollocks You are clueless. You are quoting from what you have been indoctrinated to quote

Although the fossil record shows SOME species that are perfectly adapted for their environment and hence do not change, ot ALSO shows that many species do develop and change. The Langkawi bent-toed gecko (Cyrtodactylus macrotuberculatus) for example that can be seen evolving from generation to generation and the Pygmy three-toed sloth (Bradypus pygmaeus) that has evolved to its nutrient scarce environment in the 9,000 years ot has been isolated from the mainland.

I have seen and examined and measured, my avatar is a photograph of a transitional artefact deliberately posted on here for the enjoyment of evolution deniers. So dont you call me a liar and expect to get away with it because what I know upsets you fluffy little fantasy. That is not my problem.

I suggest you actually try some LEARNING on actual academic material rather than creation.com BS and educate yourself on the subject before arguing over what you are clueless about

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#74629 Feb 8, 2013
superwilly wrote:
<quoted text> Rehash? Jesus lived and said the things he did, but the crucial and significant difference lies in his death and resurrection, power over death, power to live. Choose to believe or not, Doesn't matter to me. Besides, if it is "just a rehash", why not live by those solid principles and teachings.
If people knew he was a god like they said he did, they would have wriitten down everone of those things you said he said the moment he said them. you know htey would have. they sould have soaved his old clothes and napkins, they would have sold t-whirts with his face on them.

why didn't ANYONE that lived with Jesus do that?

And no, no-one has ever risen from the dead. Jesus died just like every other human. there is no proof of the resurection, just another myth.

No one ever said you shouldn't live by solid principles or teachings, did they?

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