Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 221445 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Level 1

Since: Feb 13

Riverside , CA

#74618 Feb 8, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Yes fossil records do support evolution. The fossil record supports the ascent of homo sapiens for about 4 million years in an unbroken chain of transition. The genetic record goes even further.
My hobby is the study of a small section of that 4 million years. Cro-Magnon man, only a few tens of thousand years but there is considerable evolutionary skeletal and cranial difference between those early h. sapiens and modern h. sapiens.
Itís not what someone told me but what I can see with my own eyes, feel with my own hands and measure using my intellect.
In my understanding of those studies I have also looked (with my own eyes) at the fossil and geological evidence that takes me back half a million years.
The record exists, I have seen some of it, it is not that someone told me itís that I HAVE SEEN IT
P.S. the skull you see as my avatar is a transitional artefact. I have held it, I have examined it, I have compared it to a modern skull of the same species and I have compared to fragments of a 38,000 years old skull o the same species. It lies in between, it is transitional between the two. That species is us, homo sapiens, human beings.
Totally Agree !!!

And hey you cant argue with that Yahoo, he thinks he knows it all and only what he know is true despite scientific evidence that says other wise...
Zackly

Gulfport, MS

#74619 Feb 8, 2013
Eloteman wrote:
Theory is just that , not a fact
A theory has full disclosure and reliability and it should gradually become more effective at generating new knowledge. The reasoning of SCP concept has brought about new discoveries that here to fore was thought impossible and US patents have been issued which prove the concept of systems cycling in nature that produce patterned results.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#74620 Feb 8, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> The combinations of two or more numbers, will give us a word or sentences.
I see. You write words and sentences with numbers. Unusual.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#74621 Feb 8, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>halfway tween...yeah we need snow the deeper the better, the colder the better....
Enjoy. I'll be off to cruise the islands this weekend.

:-)
anonymous

Chagrin Falls, OH

#74622 Feb 8, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Nice response!
When God takes away his breathe of life from you, you look like a log of wood.
THINK Charles! When god takes away his log of wood from you, you look like his breath of life! To date!

“When you treat people as they ”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#74623 Feb 8, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>I love that! "sort of half watched..."
that's why I gave up TV so long ago...i used to sort of half watch $60/month of crap....
I donít really watch much TV but kids means itís usually on in the background. Shame I was busy though I like the Horizon programmes.

Donít know much about the commercialism of TV over the pond but here there is the freeview or freesat options which as you can guess from their names are free.
anonymous

Chagrin Falls, OH

#74624 Feb 8, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> No!
I am only telling you will end up with others before you, as manure or nutrients to the soil, while the works of God will continue.
So will manure! Just saying!

“When you treat people as they ”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#74625 Feb 8, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> More and more of rants will ever change who the almighty God is. You are going to end up like others, adding more nutrients to the soil.
Wrong, more and more information will NEVER educate you.

Yup, thatís life, you live then you rot (or burn) and eventually every single atom of your body will go into creating a new star. Great ainít it?

“When you treat people as they ”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#74626 Feb 8, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> God almighty is the first or beginning( creator) and the last or end( judgement) also known as the Alpha and the Omega. Go on with your ignorance.
Nope.

There were several hundred, probably more than a thousand gods before your ďfirstĒ god popped up. Jeessus fooking christ on a crutch, even your babble admits to about 30 odd of them so you appear to be calling your babble lies Ė right?

So tell me who is being ignorant here? Me who can list the gods that show up in mythology BEFORE your god was even thought of or you who makes your statement from the point of incredulity

And as to what you want to adopt the Greek language for is entirely up to you.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#74627 Feb 8, 2013
Zackly wrote:
<quoted text>A theory has full disclosure and reliability and it should gradually become more effective at generating new knowledge. The reasoning of SCP concept has brought about new discoveries that here to fore was thought impossible and US patents have been issued which prove the concept of systems cycling in nature that produce patterned results.
Bull.

Shit.

What "new discoveries that here to fore (sic) was thought impossible and US patents" are attributed to to your private, little philosophy?

“When you treat people as they ”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#74628 Feb 8, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
<quoted text>
No they don't.
It shows that many, many species don't change at all. There is no evidence of transition from one to another whatsoever. That is what the fossil record shows.
The gaps are still great gulfs. How long do we need to fill in the gaps? A 1000 years?
Bollocks Ė You are clueless. You are quoting from what you have been indoctrinated to quote

Although the fossil record shows SOME species that are perfectly adapted for their environment and hence do not change, ot ALSO shows that many species do develop and change. The Langkawi bent-toed gecko (Cyrtodactylus macrotuberculatus) for example that can be seen evolving from generation to generation and the Pygmy three-toed sloth (Bradypus pygmaeus) that has evolved to itís nutrient scarce environment in the 9,000 years ot has been isolated from the mainland.

I have seen and examined and measured, my avatar is a photograph of a transitional artefact deliberately posted on here for the enjoyment of evolution deniers. So donít you call me a liar and expect to get away with it because what I know upsets you fluffy little fantasy. That is not my problem.

I suggest you actually try some LEARNING on actual academic material rather than creation.com BS and educate yourself on the subject before arguing over what you are clueless about

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#74629 Feb 8, 2013
superwilly wrote:
<quoted text> Rehash? Jesus lived and said the things he did, but the crucial and significant difference lies in his death and resurrection, power over death, power to live. Choose to believe or not, Doesn't matter to me. Besides, if it is "just a rehash", why not live by those solid principles and teachings.
If people knew he was a god like they said he did, they would have wriitten down everone of those things you said he said the moment he said them. you know htey would have. they sould have soaved his old clothes and napkins, they would have sold t-whirts with his face on them.

why didn't ANYONE that lived with Jesus do that?

And no, no-one has ever risen from the dead. Jesus died just like every other human. there is no proof of the resurection, just another myth.

No one ever said you shouldn't live by solid principles or teachings, did they?

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#74630 Feb 8, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>Neanderthals!
Another guess or projections.
Human is human and seen is believing.
Ummmm...we actually have the body of a neandertal to study. they were definitely another species of hominids, even using our current, messed up definition of speciation.

WE also have neandertal DNA in us as humans interbred with them.

how fun is that!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#74631 Feb 8, 2013
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>
Enjoy. I'll be off to cruise the islands this weekend.
:-)
Tough to snowshoe there, huh?
sickofit

Hayfield, MN

#74632 Feb 8, 2013
Ok creationist says evolution cant be because man and bugs and plants could not have poofed into being because to complex. YET THEY SAY THERE GOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE ..........

So a very very very complex all knowing god could just poof into being but not simple ole man........

“When you treat people as they ”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#74633 Feb 8, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Retaliating? Lol
you have no clue, go on with your ranting and frustrations. Like i said, no one can disprove the existence of God, they can only assert(s).
More of your shit, more?
If thatís what it takes you puss infected piece of syphilitic crap then retaliation is what you got.

No ranting or frustration here but you are welcome to as many delusions as you feel best suites you goddidt ideas, because delusion are the only way they make any sense, certainly NOT reality.

E=MC^2 proves that no entity as described in kjv 19:6 can exist in this universe. It really does not matter how hard you stamp you feet, you are NEVER going to change that fact

Now you little puss infected piece of syphilitic garbage, had you said something along the lines of -,no one can disprove Ďyour beliefí in the existence of God Ė that is another matter entirely

You are entitled to think exactly what you want to think, by the same token I think you are a little puss infected piece of syphilitic garbage

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#74634 Feb 8, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Tough to snowshoe there, huh?
It is. I'll just have to make do.

And drink.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#74635 Feb 8, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
If thatís what it takes you puss infected piece of syphilitic crap then retaliation is what you got.
No ranting or frustration here but you are welcome to as many delusions as you feel best suites you goddidt ideas, because delusion are the only way they make any sense, certainly NOT reality.
E=MC^2 proves that no entity as described in kjv 19:6 can exist in this universe. It really does not matter how hard you stamp you feet, you are NEVER going to change that fact
Now you little puss infected piece of syphilitic garbage, had you said something along the lines of -,no one can disprove Ďyour beliefí in the existence of God Ė that is another matter entirely
You are entitled to think exactly what you want to think, by the same token I think you are a little puss infected piece of syphilitic garbage
the King James Version?!?

the bible that was translated for a totally homosexual king that ruled by divine right...but...his god was against homosexuality...but.. ruled by divine right..but...

yikes! the theological conundrums that logic brings to religions...

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#74636 Feb 8, 2013
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>
It is. I'll just have to make do.
And drink.
i too shall be in a vessel upon the water...an F-350. I shall drill an extra icehole in your honor...well, wait that could have sounded bad...

“When you treat people as they ”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#74637 Feb 8, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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And neither support the evolutionary model.
One, by designing life, you show that life may have been designed to begin with, and denounce evolution. The designing of new life by artificial means can NEVER been used to support evolution, by simple logical deduction.
And in the second case, you are using evolution in place of natural changes, or breeding. CHANGE is the word, not evolution. By this misuse of the word, you can claim ANYTHING is evolving, as indeed it is as STRICTLY defined. Society evolves, people evolves, the president's position on gay marriages evolves, etc, etc, etc.
So, which is it? Do you not see you own error?(And if so, will you admit it here?) Or are you deliberately lying to maintain your world view?
Actually the second one does to the extent that it evolved and is evolving however that was not the point. The point was that artificial life HAS been created and artificial life is shown to evolve.

By creating life under laboratory conditions it shows how easy life can be created and how easily life can evolve.

Aww, no fair! Excluding a possibility from ignorance or incredulity is a pathetic copout and typical of the creationist who does not like the conclusion of FACT. Natural changes are 10 a penny.

Sorry letís get this straight genetic change over a period is not evolution but genetic change over a period? I am not sure I follow your logic (lol) here.

No error, no contradiction no matter how much who twist and turn. Laboratory experiments show possibilities. Evolution happens, it is documented, the theory explains the fact

You ignoramus, FYI, I have no god to lie for so there is no need for me to lie and making untrue claims simply discredits your own credibility (assuming you had any to start with)

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