Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Ignorance, if i may add.
You are ignorant and clueless.
Charles! THINK!!!! WITCH!!!!! To date!

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The official response is that homosexuality is unnatural and disordered, and the resurrected body would suffer no such imperfections or disorders. But then again, the official response is that making no attempt to restrain homosexual desire means you won't get to heaven in the first place.
As for sex in heaven, it should be possible since we will have bodies, and stil retain our sexual nature as man and woman. But being there would be of much less importance, as the pleasure of it would be incomparable to God's presence.
Think of candy. It's sweet, and good, and brings on a moment of bliss. But compared to sex, candy is put out of mind. Well, sex would become like candy, and also put out of mind compared to something much greater.
Does that help?
I take it you've been there in order to know all this.

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The mistakes yours, not mine...pay attention.
No problem. You are more than welcome to continue being wrong.

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Not at all.
I speak on a purely scientific level in regards to the model of evolution. After many decades of being put to the test, it has failed time and time again.
I could explain further, it's rather simple actually. But most often, some people are so entrenched in their world view that any threat to it is met with deep hostility.
But biology and physics proves it beyond the shadow of any doubt. Evolution is simply not possible as the current model stands.
That is not to say it is not true. I never stated that. I still cling to it myself. It makes for good science fiction, after all. But once you get down to the simple basics of the model, it becomes impossible.
Either we are missing something profound that would better explain the possibility of evolution, or it simply never happened.
Every single bit of evidence supports evolution. Every single bit.

There has not been even one piece of evidence refuting evolution. NOT ONE.

You are blinded by your fear of death. Without your belief in god, your life has no meaning, so you lie to yourself even in the face of overwhelming evidence.

Someday you may grow up and realize that evolution says absolutely nothing about the existence or nonexistence of any god. It is your juvenile and literal interpretation of the bible, an ancient text written by ignorant men, that forces you to reject established fact lest your whole belief system crumbles into dust.

The vast majority of christians have finally come out of their bible induced fog and accepted that evolution is fact. You are in an ever shrinking minority of willfully ignorant believers who cannot adapt to modern knowledge and you will be-you ARE being-pushed further and further to the outermost fringes of civilization.

It's the 21st century, for god's sake. Get with the program or get left out.

It's really up to you. You are clinging to a rapidly sinking ship with lifeboats all around you.

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Do spend much time in excrement?
Just asking you seem to be an expert in pure bullshit.
By now, after listing to you guys for the last several years, I have become an expert in bullshit.

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You just described yet another reason why evolution fails the scientific method.
No predictions can be made.
And yet even Darwin said that his ideas must be thrown out if more evidence is not found.
Still waiting on the evidence.
And here's a prime example of the bullshit. If you want to dispute the evidence, take your best shot. But to say there is none *IS* bullshit.

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Bovine defection rules

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Yankee, your language demonstrates that you know very little of science and are in no position to judge evolution.
Let me help you. "Proof" is a mathematical term. You do not prove things in science. Hypotheses are developed into theories by testing, if theories fail the tests they are no longer theories. Evolution has been continually tested for over 150 years and it has passed every test. It is a well accepted scientific theory and a well accepted scientific theory is higher than a law in scientific hierarchy. That is because a law is just an observation of an event that always happens where a theory is the observation with an explanation. An observation that life evolves without an explanation would be a Law of Evolution. The Theory of Evolution tops that.
Next you are flat out wrong about viruses not evolving. Just because they are not the same sort of life as cellular life does not mean they cannot evolve. In fact by the most strict definition of evolution they do evolve.
Don't get your facts from lying creationist sites. It only makes you look like a fool.
But he's a scientist, SZ!!!

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<quoted text> Clown, you do not understand spiritual matters. God is the source of life( alpha stands for that) and the end of life( omega stands for that).
Creation( beginning) and judgement( end).
I *know* what it symbolizes, jackass. It's still not a translation.

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LOL!!
But I don't support Creationism, and make no arguments or assertions.
I am merely tired of so much time being wasted on flat-earth theories like evolution.
Get over it, and move on.
Yet here you are not getting over it and not moving on.

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Charles! THINK!!!! WITCH!!!!! To date!
Charles dating a mirror?

A succubus...anomymous has selective escatological theology on his mind!

tsszzzizzling

nah, just that after heavy dining, as the clergy did, feeling of compressed long-space, when lying down.
But they nowadays still do exorcisms, and explain the physiological phenomena still in that way...if you are a man.

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sorry 'eschatology'

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But he's a scientist, SZ!!!
{snicker}
Ye.

I was impressed with the depth of his knowledge. I never considered ancient aliens.

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Bovine defection rules
That's cows running away from their duty in the field...

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"archaeologists claim that the Exodus never happened"
I have 4 archaeologists in my family and none of them make that claim?
Lack of proof is no proof. You should know this.
Lack of evidence is a logical and valid reason to dismiss the claim. The Exodus myth has no evidence, therefore it is dismissed as myth, otherwise leprechauns are also real, there is no evidence that they are not real.

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LOL!!
But I don't support Creationism, and make no arguments or assertions.
I am merely tired of so much time being wasted on flat-earth theories like evolution.
Get over it, and move on.
Move on to what? You're rejecting creationism. You're rejecting evolution. So what comes next?

Or are you here merely to criticize and offer nothing?

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I thought i read them all, but it continues:
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The official response is that homosexuality is unnatural and disordered, and the resurrected body would suffer no such imperfections or disorders. But then again, the official response is that making no attempt to restrain homosexual desire means you won't get to heaven in the first place.
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Where do you get that indeed. The same place where they dish out the prejudice. Are all homosexuals temple-protitutes? No, well than the BS is all yours.

So if they straighten their act a bit to order, officials would have less trouble with it.
The resurrected body can't suffer the touch of the now ordered cloths by the imperfect women.
(The bible says so)
So to test the vigor of his resurrected state against male avances he went to see his mates, and opening his ordered raincoat stated: "guy's it is me, my body in resurrected state."
(The bible does not say so)
Then he ate some fish and walked away. Quite pleased with himself.

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Move on to what? You're rejecting creationism. You're rejecting evolution. So what comes next?
Or are you here merely to criticize and offer nothing?
He read half then concluded the math was wrong.
Everything else must be catatonic religion.

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...and a rare few that desperately write scientific journals to keep the charade going lest they lose their careers.
I love this argument. As if no scientists would want to overturn evolution, become world famous and claim his or her $1,000,000+ Nobel Award.

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Lack of evidence is a logical and valid reason to dismiss the claim. The Exodus myth has no evidence, therefore it is dismissed as myth, otherwise leprechauns are also real, there is no evidence that they are not real.
Langoliers wrote: I have 4 archeologists in my family and none claimed that? <- questionmark. Well and what are we to do with the pesky thing?
Conclude that they are in entirely different fields of archeology?
That he never asked? Nor that they offered?
That 4 is not exactly representative nor peer-reviewed...
Though they can always check each other.

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