Evolution vs. Creation

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#74403 Feb 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Yes, Woody, the Mind is all we need to find the truth. Mind power!
is that why Aristotle stated that women have a different number of teeth than men? see how well that works!

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Minnesota's North Coast

#74404 Feb 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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I say this because God encoded DNA for all intelligent life in his lab, the planets in the universe, where elements were also created. He's not only a Scientist but also a Mathematician, Artist, Architect, and all that.
You are right, atheistic evolution hinders the progress of real science because life could not have started by natural processes on its own. They believe in MUTATION. I believe in PERMUTATION.
I also think there is intelligent life in other planets or galaxies.
yet there is not one teensy bit of evidnece of ANY supernatural processes...ever. not one. not even Bullwinkle pulling a rabbit out of his hat...

so with the lack of any supernatural events, that pretty much only leaves natural events doesn't it?

when you exclude the impossible, the remaining options, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

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#74405 Feb 7, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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I sort of half watched a horizon program about 6 months ago and it was suggested that true life from non living chemical ingredients is predicted within 10 to 12 years. Unfortunately I canít remember the name of the program so I need to wait for the repeat.
Artificial, self replicating life has been created in the laboratory
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/7745868/Sc...
I also heard similar artificial molecules have been seen to evolve
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16382-a...
Great links! Thanks for posting them.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#74406 Feb 7, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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I sort of half watched a horizon program about 6 months ago and it was suggested that true life from non living chemical ingredients is predicted within 10 to 12 years. Unfortunately I canít remember the name of the program so I need to wait for the repeat.
Artificial, self replicating life has been created in the laboratory
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/7745868/Sc...
I also heard similar artificial molecules have been seen to evolve
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16382-a...
I love that! "sort of half watched..."

that's why I gave up TV so long ago...i used to sort of half watch $60/month of crap....

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#74407 Feb 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>is that why Aristotle stated that women have a different number of teeth than men? see how well that works!
that's not mental, that's dental. lol

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#74408 Feb 7, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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LOL!
It is entirely correct. You are welcome to prove otherwise. No one has yet, and they've been working very hard to find a better model than currently exists.
Genetic engineering does not make new species, it changes current ones for some specific purpose, like seedless grapes.
But seedless grapes is not a positive change for evolution, as obviously, such grapes would go extinct the moment humans stopped growing them.
That is not evolution. Nor does it force evolution.
Now, if you have actual evidence of enough positive mutations occurring in any species that it created a new species, let's see the data. I assure you, you'd be a hero of the scientific community of you could pull that off.
:)
No need the hero has been already here just are just 3 examples
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphanobrassica
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v403/n67...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_maggot
Please research before you assert! If you wonít be this go away.

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#74409 Feb 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yet there is not one teensy bit of evidnece of ANY supernatural processes...ever. not one. not even Bullwinkle pulling a rabbit out of his hat...
so with the lack of any supernatural events, that pretty much only leaves natural events doesn't it?
when you exclude the impossible, the remaining options, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.
So you want something the defies the laws of physics?

Let's see. UK seems to know stuff like Science.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/pla...

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#74410 Feb 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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that's not mental, that's dental. lol
and yet his 'mind power' told him this was so...

too bad he didn't use his 'eye power'

( in Aristotle's defense, he was a HUGE Blackhawks fan....)

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#74411 Feb 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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So you want something the defies the laws of physics?
Let's see. UK seems to know stuff like Science.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/pla...
yes, I remember that. not really against the laws of physics, just something we don't understand.

the way Galaxies hold together is against the laws of physics we know, but since the laws of physics are the same in all points of observation (as far as we know) then the only logical conclusion is there is data we are not seeing or understanding.

still no supernatural event ever proved. ever. not one.

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#74412 Feb 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yet there is not one teensy bit of evidnece of ANY supernatural processes...ever. not one. not even Bullwinkle pulling a rabbit out of his hat...
so with the lack of any supernatural events, that pretty much only leaves natural events doesn't it?
when you exclude the impossible, the remaining options, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.
Holmes was probably responsible for my interest in science. I read just about everything written by Doyle when I was a kid.

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#74413 Feb 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>and yet his 'mind power' told him this was so...
too bad he didn't use his 'eye power'
( in Aristotle's defense, he was a HUGE Blackhawks fan....)
Now you're just amusing me.

How do you know he's not a Devils fan?

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Minnesota's North Coast

#74414 Feb 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Now you're just amusing me.
How do you know he's not a Devils fan?
they don't play hard enough to lose teeth...

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Minnesota's North Coast

#74415 Feb 7, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Holmes was probably responsible for my interest in science. I read just about everything written by Doyle when I was a kid.
Sadly, I have read none. i shall endeaver to rectify this lapse in my bibliography...

i DID hang out at the first brew pub in MN called Sherlock's Home/Watson's Pub for many years...(classic old style English pub. Even the bar back was hand carved and brought over from an old English pub. award winning stouts and ales and a great selection of single malts...)

those were the days...

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#74416 Feb 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>yes, I remember that. not really against the laws of physics, just something we don't understand.
the way Galaxies hold together is against the laws of physics we know, but since the laws of physics are the same in all points of observation (as far as we know) then the only logical conclusion is there is data we are not seeing or understanding.
still no supernatural event ever proved. ever. not one.
So you want evidence for something like vampires and Dracula.
Eye C.

Have you seen the Twilight Saga? That explains why wolves can turn into humans. lol

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Minnesota's North Coast

#74417 Feb 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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So you want evidence for something like vampires and Dracula.
Eye C.
Have you seen the Twilight Saga? That explains why wolves can turn into humans. lol
Evidence of anything supernatural would be something? i mean how cool would that be!

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#74418 Feb 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Evidence of anything supernatural would be something? i mean how cool would that be!
Even if there was evidence, it wouldn't want to be in a stupid circus show with other freaks.

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#74419 Feb 7, 2013
MikeF wrote:
<quoted text>By now, after listing to you guys for the last several years, I have become an expert in bullshit.
LOL

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#74420 Feb 7, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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why wouldn't there be when God invented sex. HAHAHA!
why are you a man pretending to be a womann....the question is not answered????

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#74421 Feb 7, 2013
lisawow wrote:
<quoted text>why are you a man pretending to be a womann....the question is not answered????
WTF are you talking about?

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#74422 Feb 7, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Lack of evidence is a logical and valid reason to dismiss the claim. The Exodus myth has no evidence, therefore it is dismissed as myth, otherwise leprechauns are also real, there is no evidence that they are not real.
Good move, now you think that lack of proof is proof. You can justify any way if think you think is right.

Just one thing. Prove that no proof is proof. You do that and I'll agree with you.( on the leprechauns )

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