Evolution vs. Creation

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#74259 Feb 6, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
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I view atheism as a religious belief. The very idea that they know the absolute truth about what set off the big bang and...
Athrism is no belief in gods. Period. How do you work the big bang into the definition of atheism??

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#74260 Feb 6, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Only the real God is the real Scientist.
A rabbi stated paraphrased: "Showing us a different way that took billions of years of evolution is just G-ds way to show a truth when we can comprehend it."

Nothing in the hebrew book says evolution could not have happened.
The rest is christian devil-tranlations and details.

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#74261 Feb 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>No, not prooof in any way, shape or form or in any definition of the word proof. other than that...
nailed it!
No!
Nailed your self.

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#74262 Feb 6, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> To your last statement, i will say faith can be applied in that capacity. We Christians believed that God almighty exist, because the evidence are all around us.
What evidence? You all keep saying there's evidence yet none has been presented. Until you do, claiming there's evidence is a lie.

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#74263 Feb 6, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>How hard do you have to work to maintain that level of ignorace? Consantly shutting out reality must take a lot of effort
Curious. Usually to get that 100% is hard realtime work.

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#74264 Feb 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Because it is against the laws of our universe. you can sell the idea to the ignorant masses and garner great wealth and power by doing so. and yeah to you cult leader that does so...capitalism at it's best. just don't peddle that shit here in the world of brain cells...
And yet you will die or end up like every one but God's existence will never end . Huh!

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#74265 Feb 6, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>That actually may be true, although not as you might have meant.
"Alpha" and "omega" are still Greek, you halfwit.
What are you implying, you bone head!
Are you trying to say, the Greeks don't believe in God?
God is the beginning( alpha) and the end( omega). Period.

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#74266 Feb 6, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Sure he can. humans have created literally thousands of them just look at your calendar for a short list....
are you a blasphemer for using the gregorian calendar?
Are you kidding?
I can create an image and call it god.
I can call any visible objects or things god, but that does not change who the almighty or the living God is.

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#74267 Feb 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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What evidence? You all keep saying there's evidence yet none has been presented. Until you do, claiming there's evidence is a lie.
Example: kittenkoder is the kind of atheist that obviously sees no god, so since one cannot proof a negative, it must be up to theists to proof the existence.
But for some reason they do not get that. Not when it is pointed out, nor when asked.
And worse, it continues in ever other avenue of discourse.

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#74268 Feb 6, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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Curious. Usually to get that 100% is hard realtime work.
No one is refuting real science here.

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#74269 Feb 6, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
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Because everything has a beginning and an end. The very idea of an eternal being is silly.
And what brought about that beginning and end?

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#74270 Feb 6, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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Example: kittenkoder is the kind of atheist that obviously sees no god, so since one cannot proof a negative, it must be up to theists to proof the existence.
But for some reason they do not get that. Not when it is pointed out, nor when asked.
And worse, it continues in ever other avenue of discourse.
kittenkoder is in denial for the longest time now.

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#74272 Feb 6, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
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Gods are created all the time. The idea of an eternal being however is just plain silly. Nothing is forever.
You mean mortal gods!
Mortal, image or simply man made gods can be created, but the living can never be creator, he created all existence instead.

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#74273 Feb 6, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> To your last statement, i will say faith can be applied in that capacity. We Christians believed that God almighty exist, because the evidence are all around us.
And when we ask how so, you state: look out of the window.
Mayhap there is a wall.
What they seem to mean is far reaching vistas of nature and culture: god.
That is not proof. But an opinion/definition.
And a conscious decision to make this particular choice.

The greatest philosopher of the church the Scot Scotus
(simple logic, like alpha and omega)
formulated the trinity as follows:" The esse of the esse is the esse for it is the essence!
(Who says church-history and theology can't be fun.)
Everbody was highly impressed.
You can look him up on wiki. And he wrote in latin so you can also read to check what i said.(or do presume too much. Christians aren't what they used to be)

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#74274 Feb 6, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
Viruses do not evolve.
So what are you trying to prove?
That all species are not constantly evolving?
I agree.
But I never heard anyone say that.
I have only heard people say that a population evolves when a stress compels that population to either evolve or go extinct.

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#74275 Feb 6, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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kittenkoder is in denial for the longest time now.
She is in a way, but you are twisting the example here.
We all the time want answers. Supposing intellectual honesty.
It's not there, in non of the fundies. Argumentation by sheer pigheadedness...it does not even involve an idea, brain or rationale.
With you (or xxxooxxx) i thought i had come upon the atheism that defined theism as a cloud of probabilities.
Be it in joking fashion.
But that's where you would get atheism and the big bang i suppose.

So what would KittenKoder be denying? She's around, so let's have it...;P

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#74276 Feb 6, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
if truly the bible and Christianity is false, both would have died out of existence, but the reverse were/ are the case. Instead both of them have passed many criticisms to date.
According to your syllogism, the other major religions of the world must be true too, then.
Are they?

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#74277 Feb 6, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
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So what are you trying to prove?
That all species are not constantly evolving?
I agree.
But I never heard anyone say that.
I have only heard people say that a population evolves when a stress compels that population to either evolve or go extinct.
Please explain Markov's matrix for DNA evolution then. lol

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#74278 Feb 6, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Not with my faith there is just God.
God bless!

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Evolution is true.....

#74279 Feb 6, 2013
Yankee Yahoo wrote:
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Eventually it will fall into the trash heap along with Eugenics and other defunct theories.
Creationists and fundamentalists have been trying to bury and have been telling us that evolution will go down for over 150 years now.

Last time I looked every scientific organization on EARTH still supports it, and it is ONLY religionists who don't.

I wonder why that is??

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