Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Wouldn't really be heaven without good sex, would it?
that brings up my next question. what about the gay people in heaven? how does that work?
The official response is that homosexuality is unnatural and disordered, and the resurrected body would suffer no such imperfections or disorders. But then again, the official response is that making no attempt to restrain homosexual desire means you won't get to heaven in the first place.

As for sex in heaven, it should be possible since we will have bodies, and stil retain our sexual nature as man and woman. But being there would be of much less importance, as the pleasure of it would be incomparable to God's presence.

Think of candy. It's sweet, and good, and brings on a moment of bliss. But compared to sex, candy is put out of mind. Well, sex would become like candy, and also put out of mind compared to something much greater.

Does that help?

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Kind of pointless to repost as your basic premise that evolution has no substantial evidence is incorrect.
Not at all.

I speak on a purely scientific level in regards to the model of evolution. After many decades of being put to the test, it has failed time and time again.

I could explain further, it's rather simple actually. But most often, some people are so entrenched in their world view that any threat to it is met with deep hostility.

But biology and physics proves it beyond the shadow of any doubt. Evolution is simply not possible as the current model stands.

That is not to say it is not true. I never stated that. I still cling to it myself. It makes for good science fiction, after all. But once you get down to the simple basics of the model, it becomes impossible.

Either we are missing something profound that would better explain the possibility of evolution, or it simply never happened.

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The official response is that homosexuality is unnatural and disordered, and the resurrected body would suffer no such imperfections or disorders. But then again, the official response is that making no attempt to restrain homosexual desire means you won't get to heaven in the first place.
As for sex in heaven, it should be possible since we will have bodies, and stil retain our sexual nature as man and woman. But being there would be of much less importance, as the pleasure of it would be incomparable to God's presence.
Think of candy. It's sweet, and good, and brings on a moment of bliss. But compared to sex, candy is put out of mind. Well, sex would become like candy, and also put out of mind compared to something much greater.
Does that help?
the official response is there are no souls so heaven is just abunch of hokum.

how could having pretty much the same percentage of humans being homosexual since recorded history be unnatural. all evidence would clearly suggest that homosexuality is , in fact, a very natural part of our species.

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Actually, there is no way to know that, if humans are 200,000 years old (or is it 400,000, it keeps changing.)
Ever see any of the World Without Us shows? We now know that almost no evidence of any advanced civilization would endure past a few thousands years. And things like the pyramids are only a tiny fraction of the total sum of structures built.
Skyscrapers would not last past a 1000 years, cars and their engines no more than 50 to a 100 years, etc, etc. All traces would be gone, period.
Nature is a very harsh recycler.
Then you don't know much about archeology then. How did they find fossils from millions of years ago if there is no way to trace when the earliest civilizations came to existence? It doesn't make sense.

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Not at all.
I speak on a purely scientific level in regards to the model of evolution. After many decades of being put to the test, it has failed time and time again.
I could explain further, it's rather simple actually. But most often, some people are so entrenched in their world view that any threat to it is met with deep hostility.
But biology and physics proves it beyond the shadow of any doubt. Evolution is simply not possible as the current model stands.
That is not to say it is not true. I never stated that. I still cling to it myself. It makes for good science fiction, after all. But once you get down to the simple basics of the model, it becomes impossible.
Either we are missing something profound that would better explain the possibility of evolution, or it simply never happened.
What parts of it are impossible?

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Kong_ wrote:
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I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body.
lol. now we're talking!

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>there would be gender in heaven?
Most likely no gender, however the more you do for Jesus the more you get rewarded in heaven. Women do usually suffer more on earth so they most likely will have more rewards in heaven. I understand the point made, too bad this stuff befuddles you so much.

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Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>lol. I thought we are all created equal in the eyes of God?
Yup, we all start the race together.
We do not all finish the race together
If you can grasp my meaning.

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Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>why wouldn't there be when God invented sex. HAHAHA!
One if his better inventions I would say.

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woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Heavenly sex? Where are the erogenous zones on the wings?
You don't need to know. It's not something you'll be experiencing.

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Actually, there is no way to know that, if humans are 200,000 years old (or is it 400,000, it keeps changing.)
Ever see any of the World Without Us shows? We now know that almost no evidence of any advanced civilization would endure past a few thousands years. And things like the pyramids are only a tiny fraction of the total sum of structures built.
Skyscrapers would not last past a 1000 years, cars and their engines no more than 50 to a 100 years, etc, etc. All traces would be gone, period.
Nature is a very harsh recycler.
OMG, that is the most pure, unmitigated bullshit I have read in a long time!

in fact, we have very direct evidence of civilizations that old. verifiable evidence.

the ;lastics and metal components of our modern civilization will be around for far, far longer than a few thousand years.

you are full of shit, dude.

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Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>LOL! Oh please I am happy to be a woman. If I were a man I would be gay. OMG.
What is your "G" in OMG?

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Langoliers wrote:
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Most likely no gender, however the more you do for Jesus the more you get rewarded in heaven. Women do usually suffer more on earth so they most likely will have more rewards in heaven. I understand the point made, too bad this stuff befuddles you so much.
Why are there male and female beings, deities, Gods and Goddesses?

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Then you don't know much about archeology then. How did they find fossils from millions of years ago if there is no way to trace when the earliest civilizations came to existence? It doesn't make sense.
he;s talking out of his ass, none of the crap he posts is even remotely close to factual information...

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MikeF wrote:
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That might give new meaning to the expression "winging it".
that pretty much describes my entire life's sexual experience...

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Langoliers wrote:
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One if his better inventions I would say.
Yes because men are tools ;-)

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Langoliers wrote:
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What is your "G" in OMG?
G spot

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Cybele wrote:
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a complex society with a culture and government. Why did early civilizations have similarities but existed in different parts of the world? Did God decide to show up at about 10,000 BC in different cultures?
perhaps it took that long for groups of people to organize their efforts.

Read the book "guns germs, and steel." it is very edifying.

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Cybele wrote:
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G spot
i usually go with 'Gasm...

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Cybele wrote:
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Yes because men are tools ;-)
very useful tools. with very useful tools.

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