Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.
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<quoted text>None of which are evidence of invisible Jewish wizardry.

Especially the star, since you guys can't even decide on whether it was Jupiter, another star, a star/planet conjunction, Halley's comet, another comet, or whatever. The Raellians claim it was an alien spaceship. Just as valid.
I know what star it was.
You're the lost one.

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<quoted text>We call it a creationist site, not a science site.

You didn't notice?

Seriously?
Science sites are like mother goose sites.

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Science sites are like mother goose sites.
No, true science is repeatable. Cretinist sites, like the ones you quote from, cannot generate repeatable experiments.

If you do not believe the claims of evolutionists you can go to the sites they list and find the fossils for yourself. You can run the DNA tests and get the same results for yourself. All of their experiments are repeatable. If they aren't it tells you something is wrong with their methodology and their conclusions are probably wrong too.

Scientists are very open about their work, once it is published. Other people testing it is the one way to verify their work. They like that. By the way, if you find that they are not right, your results better be repeatable too. The one way to debunk a debunker is to show that his experiment was faulty.

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That's fine. Now all you need do is write a scientific paper on the subject of how Goddidit predicts the position of astronomical phenomena better than dark matter and get it peer reviewed and published. The entire astrophysics community will look forward to your revelation.
Well I've got a revelation for you.

"The impossibility of conceiving that this grand and wondrous universe, with our conscious selves, arose through chance, seems to me the chief argument for &#8232;the existence of God."

- Charles Darwin

Did you Darwinist evolutionists know that he held a degree in Theology?

http://withalliamgod.wordpress.com/2010/11/29...

stop lying

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They haven't discovered supernatural phenomena, period. Nature is natural, hence the word "nature". And it's pretty normal for us to be surrounded by the natural universe. If I wake up tomorrow and find that the universe is not there then I'm gonna start thinking that something pretty abnormal is going on.
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The simple lack of evidence and proposed mechanisms for a God.
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Correct. It's possible that there's a cat out there with the DNA of a cactus.
We haven't found it yet.
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No it isn't. Cat with cat DNA? Goddidit. Cat with Cactus DNA? Goddidit. How? Goddidit. Where? Goddidit. When? Goddidit.
"Science is...a powerful way, indeed - to study the natural world. Science is not particularly effective...in making commentary about the supernatural world. Both worlds, for me, are quite real and quite important. They are investigated in different ways. They coexist. They illuminate each other."

-Francis Collins

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Post just before this.
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Still doesn't change the fact that it's Greek. THE ENGLISH DON'T OWN THE GREEK, CHUCKY! THE GREEKS OWN THE GREEK!! GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!!
Or you just trying to get us English into debt with the Greeks to help 'em out with their current economical troubles?
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That the scientific theory of gravity is lame because scientific theories are lame, just as you said.
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Other organisms becoming human would be a violation of nested hierarchies, and would therefore falsify evolution. Evolution (as far as can be scientifically determined) is not goal directed, so there is no reason to expect other organisms to all evolve into humans. Also none of the species on Earth have stopped evolving. It's just that the changes are generally observed at a genetic level, not a drastic visual one.
Beginning and end is English. Understand that!

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And like I said, astronomers use calculations based on dark matter theory to successfully predict the status of astronimical phenomena. This is called testing a theory. Apparently it works.
I'm not an astrophysicist so if you like you can go ask one to go into more detail into how it works.
"I find it as difficult to understand a scientist who does not acknowledge the presence of a superior rationality behind the existence of the universe as it is to comprehend a theologian who would deny the advances of science."

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Post just before this.
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Still doesn't change the fact that it's Greek. THE ENGLISH DON'T OWN THE GREEK, CHUCKY! THE GREEKS OWN THE GREEK!! GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!!
Or you just trying to get us English into debt with the Greeks to help 'em out with their current economical troubles?
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That the scientific theory of gravity is lame because scientific theories are lame, just as you said.
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Other organisms becoming human would be a violation of nested hierarchies, and would therefore falsify evolution. Evolution (as far as can be scientifically determined) is not goal directed, so there is no reason to expect other organisms to all evolve into humans. Also none of the species on Earth have stopped evolving. It's just that the changes are generally observed at a genetic level, not a drastic visual one.
No valid explanation to date.
When you have one let me know.

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Right.
"...certain astronomical bodies are not where they should be...", so darkmatterdidit, right?
In times like these, your resentment of God is an insult to your own intelligence.
I know that God is a Genius, because He's sure causing you to make a fool of yourself.
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Fools seldom differ.*shrug*
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So as absurd as darkmatterdidit might be, you will work with it because you have no better theory?
I will stick with Goddidit, because I see no better theory.
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<quoted text>Well I've got a revelation for you.

"The impossibility of conceiving that this grand and wondrous universe, with our conscious selves, arose through chance, seems to me the chief argument for &#8232;the existence of God."

- Charles Darwin

Did you Darwinist evolutionists know that he held a degree in Theology?

http://withalliamgod.wordpress.com/2010/11/29...

stop lying
THANK YOU!! Finally, someone who doesn't misrepresent the works of Darwin! Stupid narcissistic atheistic pricks. The lot of em.

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Cool.
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I don't lose. I looked at the end of the book and we win.
...but your imaginary Satan is too stupid to have thought of that?

Some Adversary.

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`Prophet!' said I,`thing of evil!- prophet still, if bird or devil!
By that Heaven that bends above us - by that God we both adore -
Tell this soul with sorrow laden if, within the distant Aidenn,
It shall clasp a sainted maiden whom the angels named Lenore -
Clasp a rare and radiant maiden, whom the angels named Lenore?'
Quoth the raven,`BALTIMORE'
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An odd bit of reverse synchronicity - Edgar Allan Poe died in Baltimore...

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Well I've got a revelation for you.
"The impossibility of conceiving that this grand and wondrous universe, with our conscious selves, arose through chance, seems to me the chief argument for &#8232;the existence of God."
- Charles Darwin
Did you Darwinist evolutionists know that he held a degree in Theology?
http://withalliamgod.wordpress.com/2010/11/29...
stop lying
Why don't you stop quote mining? Here is the full text:

"But I may say that the impossibility of conceiving that this grand and wondrous universe, with our conscious selves, arose through chance, seems to me the chief argument for the existence of God; but whether this is an argument of real value, I have never been able to decide. I am aware that if we admit a first cause, the mind still craves to know whence it came and how it arose. Nor can I overlook the difficulty from the immense amount of suffering through the world. I am, also, induced to defer to a certain extent to the judgment of the many able men who have fully believed in God; but here again I see how poor an argument this is. The safest conclusion seems to be that the whole subject is beyond the scope of manís intellect; but man can do his duty."

Darwin also said:

"I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created parasitic wasps with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars."

Draw your own conclusions.

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Science sites are like mother goose sites.
Science lays the golden eggs.

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THANK YOU!! Finally, someone who doesn't misrepresent the works of Darwin! Stupid narcissistic atheistic pricks. The lot of em.
But unfortunately, she does. See above.

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<quoted text>But unfortunately, she does. See above.
? But she's so pretty and blue and Avatarish. Too impatient. Just tell me.

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<quoted text>But unfortunately, she does. See above.
Are you referring to the complete quote you posted? Darwin obviously wrestled with his faith. It happens. I find it hard for any intellectual person not to wrestle at some point. No point to be made there. Merely an observation. Still. I love how his writing style tends to border on the poetic.

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Evolution is a proven fact the burden of proof lies on Creationist to disprove it. And BTW there are several groups that are offering a cash reward to disprove Evolution i believe one is offering a million $ not to mention the Nobel prize you would get for disproving it. but yet with all this incentive NO ONE can disprove Evolution. its logical its fact ....

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