Evolution vs. Creation

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008. Read more

“what we think we become”

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#73642 Feb 3, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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And like I said, astronomers use calculations based on dark matter theory to successfully predict the status of astronimical phenomena. This is called testing a theory. Apparently it works.
I'm not an astrophysicist so if you like you can go ask one to go into more detail into how it works.
"I find it as difficult to understand a scientist who does not acknowledge the presence of a superior rationality behind the existence of the universe as it is to comprehend a theologian who would deny the advances of science."

-Wernher Von Braun

--German-American rocket scientist

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#73643 Feb 3, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Post just before this.
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Still doesn't change the fact that it's Greek. THE ENGLISH DON'T OWN THE GREEK, CHUCKY! THE GREEKS OWN THE GREEK!! GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!!
Or you just trying to get us English into debt with the Greeks to help 'em out with their current economical troubles?
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That the scientific theory of gravity is lame because scientific theories are lame, just as you said.
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Other organisms becoming human would be a violation of nested hierarchies, and would therefore falsify evolution. Evolution (as far as can be scientifically determined) is not goal directed, so there is no reason to expect other organisms to all evolve into humans. Also none of the species on Earth have stopped evolving. It's just that the changes are generally observed at a genetic level, not a drastic visual one.
No valid explanation to date.
When you have one let me know.

“what we think we become”

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#73644 Feb 3, 2013
God Himself wrote:
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Right.
"...certain astronomical bodies are not where they should be...", so darkmatterdidit, right?
In times like these, your resentment of God is an insult to your own intelligence.
I know that God is a Genius, because He's sure causing you to make a fool of yourself.
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Fools seldom differ.*shrug*
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So as absurd as darkmatterdidit might be, you will work with it because you have no better theory?
I will stick with Goddidit, because I see no better theory.
"Atheism is not a philosophy; it is not even a view of the world; it is simply a refusal to deny the obvious."

-Sam Harris

--American Neuroscientist

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#73645 Feb 3, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>Well I've got a revelation for you.

"The impossibility of conceiving that this grand and wondrous universe, with our conscious selves, arose through chance, seems to me the chief argument for &#8232;the existence of God."

- Charles Darwin

Did you Darwinist evolutionists know that he held a degree in Theology?

http://withalliamgod.wordpress.com/2010/11/29...

stop lying
THANK YOU!! Finally, someone who doesn't misrepresent the works of Darwin! Stupid narcissistic atheistic pricks. The lot of em.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

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#73646 Feb 3, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
Ooooo...
What's with the fancy frames and levels?
Cool.
Rack up enough points, you get there.

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#73647 Feb 3, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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I don't lose. I looked at the end of the book and we win.
...but your imaginary Satan is too stupid to have thought of that?

Some Adversary.

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#73648 Feb 3, 2013
Cybele wrote:
`Prophet!' said I,`thing of evil!- prophet still, if bird or devil!
By that Heaven that bends above us - by that God we both adore -
Tell this soul with sorrow laden if, within the distant Aidenn,
It shall clasp a sainted maiden whom the angels named Lenore -
Clasp a rare and radiant maiden, whom the angels named Lenore?'
Quoth the raven,`BALTIMORE'
lol
An odd bit of reverse synchronicity - Edgar Allan Poe died in Baltimore...

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#73649 Feb 3, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Well I've got a revelation for you.
"The impossibility of conceiving that this grand and wondrous universe, with our conscious selves, arose through chance, seems to me the chief argument for &#8232;the existence of God."
- Charles Darwin
Did you Darwinist evolutionists know that he held a degree in Theology?
http://withalliamgod.wordpress.com/2010/11/29...
stop lying
Why don't you stop quote mining? Here is the full text:

"But I may say that the impossibility of conceiving that this grand and wondrous universe, with our conscious selves, arose through chance, seems to me the chief argument for the existence of God; but whether this is an argument of real value, I have never been able to decide. I am aware that if we admit a first cause, the mind still craves to know whence it came and how it arose. Nor can I overlook the difficulty from the immense amount of suffering through the world. I am, also, induced to defer to a certain extent to the judgment of the many able men who have fully believed in God; but here again I see how poor an argument this is. The safest conclusion seems to be that the whole subject is beyond the scope of manís intellect; but man can do his duty."

Darwin also said:

"I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created parasitic wasps with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars."

Draw your own conclusions.

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#73650 Feb 3, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Science sites are like mother goose sites.
Science lays the golden eggs.

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#73651 Feb 3, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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THANK YOU!! Finally, someone who doesn't misrepresent the works of Darwin! Stupid narcissistic atheistic pricks. The lot of em.
But unfortunately, she does. See above.

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#73652 Feb 4, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>But unfortunately, she does. See above.
? But she's so pretty and blue and Avatarish. Too impatient. Just tell me.

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#73653 Feb 4, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>But unfortunately, she does. See above.
Are you referring to the complete quote you posted? Darwin obviously wrestled with his faith. It happens. I find it hard for any intellectual person not to wrestle at some point. No point to be made there. Merely an observation. Still. I love how his writing style tends to border on the poetic.

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#73654 Feb 4, 2013
Evolution is a proven fact the burden of proof lies on Creationist to disprove it. And BTW there are several groups that are offering a cash reward to disprove Evolution i believe one is offering a million $ not to mention the Nobel prize you would get for disproving it. but yet with all this incentive NO ONE can disprove Evolution. its logical its fact ....

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#73655 Feb 4, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Post just before this.
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Still doesn't change the fact that it's Greek. THE ENGLISH DON'T OWN THE GREEK, CHUCKY! THE GREEKS OWN THE GREEK!! GET WITH THE PROGRAM!!!
Or you just trying to get us English into debt with the Greeks to help 'em out with their current economical troubles?
<quoted text>
That the scientific theory of gravity is lame because scientific theories are lame, just as you said.
<quoted text>
Other organisms becoming human would be a violation of nested hierarchies, and would therefore falsify evolution. Evolution (as far as can be scientifically determined) is not goal directed, so there is no reason to expect other organisms to all evolve into humans. Also none of the species on Earth have stopped evolving. It's just that the changes are generally observed at a genetic level, not a drastic visual one.
So, which one is evolving into humans?
Alpha and Omega stands for the beginning and the end, it is English!
Next?

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#73656 Feb 4, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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Science sites are like mother goose sites.
Lol

They only subscribe to sites that favours their so called ideas of science.

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#73657 Feb 4, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>So, which one is evolving into humans?
Alpha and Omega stands for the beginning and the end, it is English!
Next?
His answer was clear. We would not expect another animal to evolve into humans all over again. The particulars of environment and the mutations that happened to occur at the times they did will not be precisely replicated again. All creatures evolve, but there is no goal directed at producing us. Even if advanced intelligent life on earth evolves again, it would almost certainly be some different sort of intelligent creature.

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#73658 Feb 4, 2013
01Justsayin wrote:
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Are you referring to the complete quote you posted? Darwin obviously wrestled with his faith. It happens. I find it hard for any intellectual person not to wrestle at some point. No point to be made there. Merely an observation. Still. I love how his writing style tends to border on the poetic.
"Though reticent about his religious views, in 1879 he responded that he had never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a god, and that generally "an Agnostic would be the more correct description of my state of mind."[7] He went as far as saying that "Science has nothing to do with Christ, except insofar as the habit of scientific research makes a man cautious in admitting evidence. For myself, I do not believe that there ever has been any revelation."

-wiki

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#73659 Feb 4, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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"Science is...a powerful way, indeed - to study the natural world. Science is not particularly effective...in making commentary about the supernatural world. Both worlds, for me, are quite real and quite important. They are investigated in different ways. They coexist. They illuminate each other."
-Francis Collins
--American physician-geneticist and director of the National Human Genome Research Institute
"In his 2006 book The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief, Collins considers scientific discoveries an "opportunity to worship". In his book Collins rejects Young Earth creationism and intelligent design. His own belief is theistic evolution or evolutionary creation which he prefers to term BioLogos."

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#73660 Feb 4, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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"Atheism is not a philosophy; it is not even a view of the world; it is simply a refusal to deny the obvious."
-Sam Harris
--American Neuroscientist
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.

Lucius Annaeus Seneca

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#73661 Feb 4, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>"Though reticent about his religious views, in 1879 he responded that he had never been an atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a god, and that generally "an Agnostic would be the more correct description of my state of mind."[7] He went as far as saying that "Science has nothing to do with Christ, except insofar as the habit of scientific research makes a man cautious in admitting evidence. For myself, I do not believe that there ever has been any revelation."

-wiki
Well there ya have it. At least he understood himself. Still a brilliantly passionate man. I have nothing but the utmost respect for his work.

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