Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Jan 6, 2011, Best of New Orleans story titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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““You must not lose faith ”

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#73561 Feb 2, 2013
Ah Langoliers those extinctions again.
It's rare to find fossils.
Ever rarer to find imprints of the softer parts.
The oldest vertebrate imprint is found (best google for it, 540 millon years as i recal.
But it would allways take some time before mayor changes would become apparent.
Darwin tested everything, but was reallyworried about f.i. viruses and their very fast evolving and mutating.

Apropos fish and genomic proof, a new tool so to say.
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/23/11/2...

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#73562 Feb 2, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
Langoliers, why don't you ever quote proper sources? If you are going to quote Darwin, provide a link to the source. If it is a creationist site you lose. We know that they are liars.

Going to a creationist site for information about evolution is the same as going to a Nazi site for information about the holocaust. Both will be just about as reliable.
What do you call this?
Just forgot to read the link?

http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html

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Everett, WA

#73563 Feb 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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What do you call this?
Just forgot to read the link?
http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html
I call it garbage.

Once again, you would not go to a member of the Nazi party for information on the holocaust.

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#73564 Feb 2, 2013
Langoliers, creatinonist sites not only have been shown to be wrong countless times, they have been shown to be liars almost all of those times.

Therefore ANYTHING from a creationist site is automatically assumed to be wrong until proven otherwise. You have as much as admitted that you are wrong by going to such a site.

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#73565 Feb 2, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
Langoliers, creatinonist sites not only have been shown to be wrong countless times, they have been shown to be liars almost all of those times.

Therefore ANYTHING from a creationist site is automatically assumed to be wrong until proven otherwise. You have as much as admitted that you are wrong by going to such a site.
You play by your rules I'll play by my rules.
Tammy

Australia

#73566 Feb 2, 2013
Creation for sure
John three sixteen

Indian Trail, NC

#73567 Feb 2, 2013
Attention Creationists!
Please go over to the SDA forum Topix.. on the thread entitled "ATHEIST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS" the atheists are very annoying..they(the atheists)have invaded the SDA Christian forum..Come Help with the Debate please! Thanks a million dear Christians!!!!!! God Bless!

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#73568 Feb 2, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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You play by your rules I'll play by my rules.
All it takes for you to lose is to point out that you play by your rules.

Trust me, your rules are the wrong rules. Look up the rules of debate.

““You must not lose faith ”

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#73569 Feb 2, 2013
A Genomic Fossil Reveals Key Steps in Hemoglobin Loss by the Antarctic Icefishes
Thomas J. Near*, Sandra K. Parker and H. William Detrich III
*Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, Yale University
Department of Biology, Northeastern University
E-mail: iceman@neu.edu.
Accepted July 24, 2006.
Abstract
Antarctic icefishes are the only vertebrates that do not have hemoglobin and erythrocytes in their blood. These startling phenotypes are associated in several icefish species with deletions of juvenile and adult globin loci, which in red-blooded teleosts are typically composed of tightly linked pairs of &#945;- and &#946;-globin genes. It is unknown if the loss of hemoglobin expression in icefishes was the direct result of such deletions or if other mutational events compromised globin chain synthesis prior to globin gene loss. In this study, we show that 15 of the 16 icefish species have lost the adult &#946;-globin gene but retain a truncated &#945;-globin pseudogene. Surprisingly, a phylogenetically derived icefish species, >>>Neopagetopsis ionah, possesses a complete, but nonfunctional, adult &#945;&#946;-globin complex. This cluster contains 2 distinct &#946;-globin pseudogenes whose phylogenetic origins span the entire Antarctic notothenioid radiation, consistent with an origin via introgression.
>>>> Maximum likelihood ancestral state reconstruction supports a scenario of icefish globin gene evolution that involves a single loss of the transcriptionally active adult &#945;&#946;-globin cluster prior to the diversification of the extant species in the clade.
>>>>Through lineage sorting of ancestral polymorphism, 2 types of alleles became fixed in the clade: 1) the &#945;-globin pseudogene of the majority of species and 2) the inactive &#945;&#946;-globin complex of N. ionah. We conclude that the globin pseudogene complex of N. ionah is a genomic fossil that reveals key intermediate steps on the pathway to loss of hemoglobin expression by all icefish species.
Key words
hemoglobin loss by icefishes genomic instability genetic introgression interspecific hybridization Channichthyidae Notothenioidei

““You must not lose faith ”

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#73570 Feb 2, 2013
945 alpha
946 beta

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

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#73571 Feb 3, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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You play by your rules I'll play by my rules.
Hey, they're your lies.

Tell 'em how you like.
Clone

Kansas City, MO

#73572 Feb 3, 2013
Tammy wrote:
Creation for sure
Brainwashed for sure.Its bad enought the primitive human animal believes such nonsense. Who made God?

“I Am No One Else”

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#73573 Feb 3, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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What is wrong with you?
I can go through these threads and see many people post evidence.
Point two you should tattoo to your arm because maybe then you'll remember it.
There is no proof only evidence.
Can you understand this?
No I guess you can't I've already told you this dozens of times.
Your bible is not evidence, that is your assertion. Where is the actual evidence?

“I be me, and you are...”

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in a city...

#73574 Feb 3, 2013
Zackly wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever heard the song "I GO WALKING IN MY SLEEP" by Billy Joell I think his name is?
Nope Ironically how ever I was at a club last night dancing the night away for this Morning I feel like I had a time of LIFE...

Don't ask how I got there,

www.youtube.com/watch...

“I be me, and you are...”

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in a city...

#73575 Feb 3, 2013
Benches were created to sit on...

Banks we could piss on them and put everyone out of Bus. tellers machines too to keep track of

When's the smart phone going to beam up their owners is what I wonder about...

LOL

Sorry today your journey your trip is trapped on a computer screen for the rest of your Eternity, the show must go on and linger in your word

The days of Slim pickings they were long gone Today is the day to Remember

Neighbor and how we treat em' that would be a spoken from Script

Pleasem Heathem...

“I see quantum effects”

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In the macro world.

#73576 Feb 3, 2013
Here's an excellent debate on the BBC between various faiths, denominations and scientists.

The question is: Is it time for all religions to accept evolution. There are a couple of young earth creationinsts, too.

It's long, so save it for when you have some time.

Like a lazy Sunday before the superbowl.

http://youtu.be/tOPJXCDsMLI

“I see quantum effects”

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In the macro world.

#73577 Feb 3, 2013
Ooooo...

What's with the fancy frames and levels?

Cool.

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#73578 Feb 3, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Hey, they're your lies.

Tell 'em how you like.
Why thank you for your permission.

NOT.

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#73579 Feb 3, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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You play by your rules I'll play by my rules.
Exactly Lan, keep up the good works and may the almighty God be with you, amen.

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#73580 Feb 3, 2013
Tammy wrote:
Creation for sure
Sure!!!

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