Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 168838 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#73463 Feb 1, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>Langoliers

How did life start?
What was there before the Big Bang?
What is dark energy?
How can a singularity expand?

What??? You don’t have answers? Not surprised really

Funny thing is science is working to find answers and has hypotheses for each question you are so flummoxed by.

Whereas godbots are quite happy to rely on bronze age understanding for their knowledge
Yes it is Funny!

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#73464 Feb 1, 2013
MikeF wrote:
there = their. Dang spell check.
Today nobody cares, we have smaller fish to fry...uhm.

The fishlitterally come toa ripe age sooner and stay smaller.
nature is doing a very rapid overhaul right now.
Flies develope 12 proteases in just their sexual organs to store sperm, mate with the out-group. produce smaller eggs.
icebears and brown bearsmateto survive.
Elephants without tusks.
Adaptaton like never seen before.

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#73465 Feb 1, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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I don't think either you or KK are considering the delicate balance of nature, the dependence our culture has on cheap energy or the limited amount of land available for cultivation. There will be a domino effect when demand for food combines with the price to produce food and with the price for shipping food, along with the cost of all of the other niceties of life.
The whole point is that people don't think about how our demands are running up against a brick wall of availability of resources. Personally, I think a massive economic destabilization and subsequent famine will occur within the lifetimes of many people on this forum. There's little population slowdown, and no interest in changing our lifestyles to more efficient ones where we live close to our jobs, produce what we need at home and plan for times of shortfalls.
We're shipping raw materials from all over the world to the places with the cheapest labor and the most careless consumption of fossil fuels, then shipping finished products back to cash rich places like the U.S. for the cheapest prices. We have some of the best energy reserves in the world, but it's dirty bituminous coal that will only accelerate global warming and likely cause a further loss of good farming country.
Meanwhile, our global population is increasing at the rate of a billion or so every decade. Something has to give. It probably won't start in this country, but with likely war and famine, we certainly won't be able to keep it from getting here.
I know. Just more gloom and doom prophecy, but I do understand the survivalists.
I agree, but there is a bias of perception, given everybody moving from rural to the cities, and mainly coasts.
But some countries i traveled have easily 9 million people per town. 21 million one had. It's culture and religion.

Seaweed really ain't all that bad, not as compost and also not to eat. And we have to get used to the taste of insects.

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#73466 Feb 1, 2013
MAAT wrote:
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Wouldn't you get a tennis-armor a wooden shoulder.
I'm sitting here O.O
and frankly no idea. i sea those kind of series now and again where they whoosh, whoosh manipulate stuff.
Well typing i can still handle but florishing a whooshh, would be out of my depht.
And the other idea i got was like those courtdictaphones, tiny block on the table.
Reread, so it is glassfiber and you interrupt the beam, signal sent, barely a touch, right?
And you can keep your hands in the same spot.
I try to get the idea without lookingup an add.
Do you need your nose to handle any button/beam you can not reach?
That's just it, if people used such light touch interfaces instead of these mechanical keyboards more, there'd be fewer ailments resulting from over use. The ailments are caused by repetitive muscle use, and thus the fewer muscles used, the less the ailments will afflict us.

Actually, no, you touch the table where the light projection is, barely tapping it, anything that breaks the reflection will be interpreted as a keypress. It's a small box with laser projectors and light sensors, sort of like the motion systems for video game consoles, only the projection onto the table is also visible to the human eye as well so you see a keyboard .... made of light. It's not 3D, but it's still so cool. Another benefit is that it takes up less space when not in use! Forgot to mention that benefit.

I don't like posting sales sites, as they are spam as well, but I'll make an exception to this.
http://www.hammacher.com/Product/81759...
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#73467 Feb 1, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Do you believe something can be suspended in time like sleep while other things are moving in time?
Of course. That's why we have creationists. One day they'll wake up and realise they're in the 21st century and be like "OMFG!!!"
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#73468 Feb 1, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Of course. That's why we have creationists. One day they'll wake up and realise they're in the 21st century and be like "OMFG!!!"
When the Darwinist capitulate then science may catch up.

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#73469 Feb 1, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>When the Darwinist capitulate then science may catch up.
So in other words, when we deny the facts, you'll accept the science.

You have no idea how to use science.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#73470 Feb 1, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So in other words, when we deny the facts, you'll accept the science.
You have no idea how to use science.
Not trying to do anything but speak the truth. Science should always reveal truth.
FREE SERVANT

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#73471 Feb 1, 2013
The structure of nature does not work the way Darwin thought. A systematic study of systems in nature will give us the facts of how they are patterned and systematically arranged to cycle and reproduce following given pathways that are not linear as Darwin was misunderstanding and ignorant about.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#73472 Feb 1, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Not trying to do anything but speak the truth. Science should always reveal truth.
Then you WILL find truth unfortunate.

God didn't do it the way you think it did.

Or it's a liar.

There are no other options.

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#73473 Feb 1, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Not trying to do anything but speak the truth. Science should always reveal truth.
No, science is a tool for figuring out how reality works. You would know that if you were educated, or paid any attention to what the more intelligent and learned people have said on here.

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#73474 Feb 1, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
The structure of nature does not work the way Darwin thought. A systematic study of systems in nature will give us the facts of how they are patterned and systematically arranged to cycle and reproduce following given pathways that are not linear as Darwin was misunderstanding and ignorant about.
Thank you for providing evidence that you know nothing about evolution, nothing at all.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#73475 Feb 1, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
The structure of nature does not work the way Darwin thought. A systematic study of systems in nature will give us the facts of how they are patterned and systematically arranged to cycle and reproduce following given pathways that are not linear as Darwin was misunderstanding and ignorant about.
Sorry, but your claim was falsified years ago. And that's just this thread.
FREE SERVANT

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#73476 Feb 1, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Then you WILL find truth unfortunate.
God didn't do it the way you think it did.
Or it's a liar.
There are no other options.
NO, the Creator can not lie or we would not be here and miracles are beyond your understanding!
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#73477 Feb 1, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>NO, the Creator can not lie
Stop telling God what to do. It is not limited by your petty limited imagination.
FREE SERVANT wrote:
or we would not be here and miracles are beyond your understanding!
And yours too. Therefore rather than appealing to evidence we do not have, I simply refer to the evidence provided by God itself. Assuming it even exists.

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#73478 Feb 1, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Then you WILL find truth unfortunate.
God didn't do it the way you think it did.
Or it's a liar.
There are no other options.
No it created itself... is your claim. Breaking one of the most fundamental laws of science... you imply An effect without a cause.

But the concept of God creating the Universe does not break the law of cause and effect.

In fact, if you claim that a cause does not need an effect(as you do) then "God dunit with magic" readily applies.

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#73479 Feb 1, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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No it created itself... is your claim. Breaking one of the most fundamental laws of science... you imply An effect without a cause.
But the concept of God creating the Universe does not break the law of cause and effect.
In fact, if you claim that a cause does not need an effect(as you do) then "God dunit with magic" readily applies.
No one says any life was created. The simplest method to explain why there is life is that it's the result of chemical processes, since life is chemical processes.

You're the only ones suggesting everything was "created" and thus adding extra steps and complicating the process even more.

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#73480 Feb 1, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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No one says any life was created. The simplest method to explain why there is life is that it's the result of chemical processes, since life is chemical processes.
You're the only ones suggesting everything was "created" and thus adding extra steps and complicating the process even more.
So if nothing was created as you claim, you imply that it(Universe) has always been here...is that your claim?

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#73481 Feb 1, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>No one says any life was created. The simplest method to explain why there is life is that it's the result of chemical processes, since life is chemical processes.

You're the only ones suggesting everything was "created" and thus adding extra steps and complicating the process even more.
"No one says any life was created"

I do! I claim God created all life.

"The simplest method to explain why there is life is that it's the result of chemical processes"

This is a lie. You expect spontaneous life coming from rain falling on rocks creating a speck of life and that very first self creating speck of life mutated (against all we know about mutations) for the better billions of times (not once but billions of times) to be the mother of all life on the planet. And then put of the other side of your face you claim bottle neck with Adam and Eve.

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#73482 Feb 1, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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No one says any life was created. The simplest method to explain why there is life is that it's the result of chemical processes, since life is chemical processes.
You're the only ones suggesting everything was "created" and thus adding extra steps and complicating the process even more.
and again...if life is just the result of chemical processes, why can you not show proof, by making the very simplest of simple life forms...such as a single cell organism? It would be apparent that the chemicals are readily available...but yet you can't why not?

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