Evolution vs. Creation

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008. Full Story

“I Am No One Else”

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Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#73378 Jan 31, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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lol...whatever.
I based all that on the same quality of evidence you have, so it's as true as your assertion.

“All things considered”

Since: Jun 12

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#73379 Jan 31, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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... as opposed to the humility of assuming the **entire universe** was made especially for us.
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Yup. Creationists tend to ignore this advice completely however.
assuming the **entire universe** was made especially for us.

and your the one who claims that without evidence that it's invalid.tsk...tsk

Doing a little flip flopping are we....lol

If you can't show no proof of aliens, then it's true until proven otherwise...(by your standards)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#73380 Jan 31, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
God and the angels and mankind are the advanced intelligence.
Nah. Mankind has creationists. Angels fall. And God made creationists. Along with evil talking lizards to trick them into pishing God off.

Sorry. There is no intelligence there.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#73381 Jan 31, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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assuming the **entire universe** was made especially for us.
and your the one who claims that without evidence that it's invalid.tsk...tsk
Doing a little flip flopping are we....lol
If you can't show no proof of aliens, then it's true until proven otherwise...(by your standards)
Not by my standards at all. If you've ever read my posts on the subject of aliens in the past you would already know that there is currently no evidence of extra-terrestrial life. But then the amount of space we've searched probably isn't even equivalent to that of an ant exploring the entire Earth and only travelled 1mm from its nest.

So what we can say is that it is reasonable, given the size of the universe, that if life is here there's no reason why it cannot exist elsewhere in the universe. And both the facts that the universe being so vast and that we've found that organic compounds can and do occur naturally in space helps bolster that case.

The only problem is that the universe could be teeming with life, even advanced civilizations. But we would never find evidence because of the numerous obstacles caused by vast distances.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

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#73382 Jan 31, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Your first statement is the last straw that the uneducated and naive people hold. It means you're a failure and you know it.
The rest is nothing but conspiracy nonsense.
Ah another computer nerd who fulfills HER fantasies with computer games. When you step out of your fantasy world and face reality, let me know. Otherwise, I am not playing games with you, puss.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Level 9

Since: Jun 11

Atlanta Georgia

#73383 Jan 31, 2013
Tinka wrote:
So what would be worse machine turning into Human or vise versa?
Good afternoon Tinka, I hope you are having a nice day.
Holy Ghost

Kansas City, MO

#73385 Jan 31, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
God and the angels and mankind are the advanced intelligence.
FS, who made God? Religion is a learned human behavior. A story in black and white. Humans are simple minded, easily brainwashed and manipulated. Who made God? The human mind did. Those angels are alien outlaws. "Mankind is the advanced intelligence?" Who made God? Mankind is clueless, they read a story so it must be true. Humans are products of their environments, its that simple. Martyrs believe if they strap a bomb to their chest and kill innocent woman and children that by their teachings(bible study)they will be surrounded by virgins in heaven. Go bow your head and pray....don't look up.....alien outlaws are out there..........

“what we think we become”

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Since: Aug 11

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#73386 Jan 31, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Not by my standards at all. If you've ever read my posts on the subject of aliens in the past you would already know that there is currently no evidence of extra-terrestrial life. But then the amount of space we've searched probably isn't even equivalent to that of an ant exploring the entire Earth and only travelled 1mm from its nest.
So what we can say is that it is reasonable, given the size of the universe, that if life is here there's no reason why it cannot exist elsewhere in the universe. And both the facts that the universe being so vast and that we've found that organic compounds can and do occur naturally in space helps bolster that case.
The only problem is that the universe could be teeming with life, even advanced civilizations. But we would never find evidence because of the numerous obstacles caused by vast distances.
You keep saying that distance between galaxies are so vast it's impossible to travel from one to another. Please expand your horizon because only your mentality is one that cannot reach beyond your personal space.

Einstein already came up with wormholes and time travel. There is already the concept of earth energy grid and portals. Open your mind. You said you're open to possibilities but your skepticism proves otherwise.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#73387 Jan 31, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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assuming the **entire universe** was made especially for us.
and your the one who claims that without evidence that it's invalid.tsk...tsk
Doing a little flip flopping are we....lol
If you can't show no proof of aliens, then it's true until proven otherwise...(by your standards)
That is not how evidence works. If it does, then leprechauns, faeries, Zeus, Ra, werewolves, and wraiths are also all real.

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#73388 Jan 31, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Ah another computer nerd who fulfills HER fantasies with computer games. When you step out of your fantasy world and face reality, let me know. Otherwise, I am not playing games with you, puss.
I don't play video games, I actually don't like them, boring. I write server utilities actually, database interfaces for user-end, but mostly server-client communication utility programs. I have no fantasies either, I prefer reality to imagination, because imagination you just make things up, in reality you have a lot to learn about. You don't like doing the work, so you avoid learning and just make things up, that's the real difference between us.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#73389 Jan 31, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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You keep saying that distance between galaxies are so vast it's impossible to travel from one to another. Please expand your horizon because only your mentality is one that cannot reach beyond your personal space.
Einstein already came up with wormholes and time travel. There is already the concept of earth energy grid and portals. Open your mind. You said you're open to possibilities but your skepticism proves otherwise.
Actually I believe that Einstein implied that a consequence of going faster than the speed of light would result in traveling backwards in time. Of course according to his theory both are not possible.

“what we think we become”

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#73390 Jan 31, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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I don't play video games, I actually don't like them, boring. I write server utilities actually, database interfaces for user-end, but mostly server-client communication utility programs. I have no fantasies either, I prefer reality to imagination, because imagination you just make things up, in reality you have a lot to learn about. You don't like doing the work, so you avoid learning and just make things up, that's the real difference between us.
Now you are just lying to your teeth. Didn't you mention all those role-playing video games that you play? I don't remember the games but you mentioned quite a lot. What makes you think I avoid learning? I'm enrolled in an online undergraduate program. But you're right, I don't like boring jobs but I will always find time to learn something new. I don't make things up, I simply am a thinking machine. I'm becoming less human now. lol

“what we think we become”

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#73391 Jan 31, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Actually I believe that Einstein implied that a consequence of going faster than the speed of light would result in traveling backwards in time. Of course according to his theory both are not possible.
Maybe mentally it's possible.

“All things considered”

Since: Jun 12

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#73392 Jan 31, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Simple. Just provide objectively verifiable scientific evidence. This should be the easiest thing in the world if the evidence is so "obvious".
Every time I've asked though you always tell me about what humans are building instead.(shrug)
You can deny the obvious all you want...but when you copy processes that are more advanced than your own, you are acknowledging in action, what you deny in words.
Science in their actions, proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the processes taking place in the Universe are more intelligent processes than their own, by incorporating the very same processes to advance technology.

"the proof is in the puddin'"

End of story.


“what we think we become”

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#73393 Jan 31, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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You can deny the obvious all you want...but when you copy processes that are more advanced than your own, you are acknowledging in action, what you deny in words.
Science in their actions, proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the processes taking place in the Universe are more intelligent processes than their own, by incorporating the very same processes to advance technology.
"the proof is in the puddin'"
End of story.
talk about reverse engineering

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#73394 Jan 31, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Now you are just lying to your teeth. Didn't you mention all those role-playing video games that you play? I don't remember the games but you mentioned quite a lot. What makes you think I avoid learning? I'm enrolled in an online undergraduate program. But you're right, I don't like boring jobs but I will always find time to learn something new. I don't make things up, I simply am a thinking machine. I'm becoming less human now. lol
You didn't tense your words correctly, "playED" ... as in I use to play. You don't think, you make things up, and then run with those. Like your conspiracy nuttery, your existential delusions, and your "god."

“I Am No One Else”

Level 7

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#73395 Jan 31, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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You can deny the obvious all you want...but when you copy processes that are more advanced than your own, you are acknowledging in action, what you deny in words.
Science in their actions, proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the processes taking place in the Universe are more intelligent processes than their own, by incorporating the very same processes to advance technology.
"the proof is in the puddin'"
End of story.
If it's so obvious, why can't you produce any actual evidence?

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#73396 Jan 31, 2013
Holy Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>FS, who made God? Religion is a learned human behavior. A story in black and white. Humans are simple minded, easily brainwashed and manipulated. Who made God? The human mind did. Those angels are alien outlaws. "Mankind is the advanced intelligence?" Who made God? Mankind is clueless, they read a story so it must be true. Humans are products of their environments, its that simple. Martyrs believe if they strap a bomb to their chest and kill innocent woman and children that by their teachings(bible study)they will be surrounded by virgins in heaven. Go bow your head and pray....don't look up.....alien outlaws are out there..........
HG how did life start?
HG What was there before the Big Bang?
HG What is dark energy?
HG How can a singularity expand?

““You must not lose faith ”

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Since: Jun 11

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#73397 Jan 31, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Actually I believe that Einstein implied that a consequence of going faster than the speed of light would result in traveling backwards in time. Of course according to his theory both are not possible.
We have again since 2010 more shrinkage of the proton that might imply revision of the electromagnetic formulas. I think we allready reached that conclusion pondering the physics surrounding the Higgs.

I don't do wormholes nor travel backwards in time either.(By mistake i sneaked in the viral infested humbug line...still on the M and m! Though i did intend to read up i quickly left.)

But according to a French scientist, in order to reach even the closest galaxy we would have to 'burn up' earth and the moon too, if we intend to travel a bit comfortably. And yll can't come along for the ride...or yes you do...you'll be energy too.

“what we think we become”

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Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#73398 Jan 31, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You didn't tense your words correctly, "playED" ... as in I use to play. You don't think, you make things up, and then run with those. Like your conspiracy nuttery, your existential delusions, and your "god."
Unless you know exactly what I'm dealing with, you have no place to judge me and accuse of such. You are wrong on so many levels. But maybe I'm crazy because I'm really a psychological and biological experiment of some sort that I didn't know about until few years ago when I developed some abilities and figured things out on my own. It could not have come from a higher source because I was under certain conditioning of the environment. Maybe it's evolution and I have a mutant gene. Do you think that makes more sense? hmm?

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