Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Jan 26, 2013
 
Thomas Robertson wrote:
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A skeptical attitude is wrong?
What if I'm approached by both a Republican and a Democrat during election season?
What if I'm approached by a World Book salesman, an Encyclopedia Brittanica salesman, and a Kirby vacuum cleaner salesman?
What if I'm approached by a Moonie, a Jehovah's Witness, and a Hare Krishna?
What if I'm approached by an astrologer, a numerologist, and apalm reader?
So many questions. In summary, lets learn to respect every ones beliefs( faiths) and traditions.
What brought me to topix, was the way atheist were/ are speaking against God, Jesus and the Christians.
That actually is a sceptical attitude.

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"God" is irrelevant to science, period. Unless you have scientific evidence.
LOL. Is that a joke? What were scientists thinking about quoting a bible verse in natural history museums? I just went to visit a local one recently near a prestigious university.

Here's another:

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/archive/Cre...

see it for yourself, dude.

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Without the complex nature of human brain, which is an handiwork of God the creator, there would have been no inventions like computer, the internet, world wide web, Email, etc.

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Jan 26, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>So many questions. In summary, lets learn to respect every ones beliefs( faiths) and traditions.
What brought me to topix, was the way atheist were/ are speaking against God, Jesus and the Christians.
That actually is a sceptical attitude.
Atheism is fine, with it's a live and let live attitude...It's actually based on Christian values. But there is a subversive Atheist movement, bend on the destruction of Christianity in particular...these type of people have no respect for others at all...

Some even get payed for attacking Christianity...so don't ever expect respect from such people.

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Atheism is fine, with it's a live and let live attitude...It's actually based on Christian values. But there is a subversive Atheist movement, bend on the destruction of Christianity in particular...these type of people have no respect for others at all...
Some even get payed for attacking Christianity...so don't ever expect respect from such people.
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Jan 26, 2013
 
We are more thoroughly an enlightened people, with respect to our political interests, than perhaps any other under heaven. Every man among us reads, and is so easy in his circumstances as to have leisure for conversations of improvement and for acquiring information.- Benjamin Franklin

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Don't forget pus, pussywillows and hurricanes! One out of three ain't bad.
You may not understand this. This is due to man's excessive abuse of the natural environment( earth) created by God.
We want to know every thing when in actual sense, we can not.
Stubborness, i may call that.
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Is your conclusion that children would be better off living in a teepee on the plains eating raw buffalo liver until the god of evolution catches them up to todays pace?
What on Earth, kind of bigoted response is THAT?

First, don't get all snooty towards Native Americans. Most of Europe was in no more advanced state as little as 2000 years ago when the Romans took control. Second, using fire and cooking food goes as far back as 300 to 400 thousand years ago, maybe longer. Homo Erectus used fire.
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xxxooxxx wrote:
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Atheism is fine, with it's a live and let live attitude...It's actually based on Christian values. But there is a subversive Atheist movement, bend on the destruction of Christianity in particular...these type of people have no respect for others at all...
Some even get payed for attacking Christianity...so don't ever expect respect from such people.
You're linking atheists with militant socialists. Militant socialists are like capitalist Christians. Their ambitions and prosperity are tied to their beliefs. Neither should be taken seriously, but you shouldn't assume that atheists who aren't militant socialists are anything other than people who have been a part of your community and culture for their entire lives. They're just making their own choices which, remarkably enough, can reflect a sense of morality that isn't just a fear of damnation.

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<quoted text> You may not understand this. This is due to man's excessive abuse of the natural environment( earth) created by God.
We want to know every thing when in actual sense, we can not.
Stubborness, i may call that.
"We want to know every thing when in actual sense, we can not."

Exactly...

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You're linking atheists with militant socialists. Militant socialists are like capitalist Christians. Their ambitions and prosperity are tied to their beliefs. Neither should be taken seriously, but you shouldn't assume that atheists who aren't militant socialists are anything other than people who have been a part of your community and culture for their entire lives. They're just making their own choices which, remarkably enough, can reflect a sense of morality that isn't just a fear of damnation.
Your right.
That the reason I did not include all atheist in my statement.
The same that all who call themselves Christians are not truly Christians in the sense of the word.

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You mistake me for an atheist making a positive case for atheism. I don't care. Science doesn't care. I'm quite open to the possibility. I just have different ideas about such an entity as you do.
And what are your ideas about such entity?

Why Europeans go to extremes about their ideas? One can't be an atheist if one wants to join a secret order because you know there is one great architect of the universe that is a supreme being. One discovers America in pursuit of the fountain of youth without some alien encounter from the sky. One has to be a skeptic to accept Darwinian naturalism or will be ridiculed and yet they are so proud of their sovereign city-state, the Vatican, where the Popes are protected from getting shot by who, the Nazis or KKK wannabe's? But probably not descendants of Pilgrims who were rebels and killed the Native Indians. You have Kings who are said to come from lineage of the holy grail that the Templars protected and kept hidden for centuries, not to mention the VI-Kings and their mystery. You have the 13 bloodlines who control the entire planet. Now it's all under one union. What's next?

So again, I really want to know what your own ideas about such entity.

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A skeptical attitude is wrong?
What if I'm approached by both a Republican and a Democrat during election season?
What if I'm approached by a World Book salesman, an Encyclopedia Brittanica salesman, and a Kirby vacuum cleaner salesman?
What if I'm approached by a Moonie, a Jehovah's Witness, and a Hare Krishna?
What if I'm approached by an astrologer, a numerologist, and apalm reader?
"Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing"

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"We want to know every thing when in actual sense, we can not."
Exactly...
Excessive excavations for precious stones and other minerals have turned the earth to another thing, human's activity have adversely depleted the ozone layers, yet we still don't know everything...
May God save us all, amen.

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Interesting. Yet after Franklin we had two world wars, Hitler's ovens, Stalin's gulags, Pol Pots death camps, Japanese murders marches & their rape of Nanking, and just a few years ago a govenment-planned famine in North Korea.
Who was he calling enlightened? Surely not all the world.
Does the Illuminati ring a bell?
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There's a world of difference between applied science, and theoretical science.
Yes, "theoretical" science refers to hypotheses that cannot currently be tested. Such concepts include the multiverse idea. It may or may not be testable if and when we develop a fully-working theory of quantum gravity.

Applied science is using practical scientific tests to achieve successful results. Such theories include the theory of evolution.
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Jan 26, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
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Buddy, there is a limitation for humans, " death ".
So, if there is, science or scientific method do have limitations.
Faith carries the day.
This is irrelevant to the validity of science and your opinions re: faith are nothing but that.
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Jan 26, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Dreaming again!
How can some body ate his own kind, kill his or her own child, and many more?
Think!
I can't think based on your stilted English. This doesn't make sense.
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Evolutionist on this thread, seem to be infatuated with killing...that seems to be the only bible verses that they are willing to reference.
Only when fundies make daft arguments about "holy" morality.

Of course this tangent still has no bearing on the validity of science.

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Excessive excavations for precious stones and other minerals have turned the earth to another thing, human's activity have adversely depleted the ozone layers, yet we still don't know everything...
May God save us all, amen.
Amen.
It'll all works out in the end. I'm sure.

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