Evolution vs. Creation

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#72431 Jan 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Not all, just a vast majority.
Well of course. Every ideology thinks that their view is the only view.

Have you taken that into consideration about views of Science?

This must be acknowledged, if you want unbias truth.

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#72432 Jan 27, 2013
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I only argue that there an observable intelligent self evident process behind existence.
By stating it's "self evident" you destroy your entire case instantly.

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#72433 Jan 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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If so, then your creator must need a creator. Then that creator needs a creator. Then that one ... and so on. Infinite regression, and thus proving your creator is impossible.
This was covered before...the concept is that God created time and space...therefore he is not subject to the limitation of time and space.

God would be of an infinite nature...or immortal.

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#72434 Jan 27, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> If you don't know, that is the truth.
Other gods, goddesses or deities are sub gods, the people uses to communicate to the supreme God.
God is one.
Still holding to your lame attempt to belittle all other religions. The ancient Egyptians had more evidence of their gods than you do, so their description of the pantheon is more solidly supported than your "one true god." By your own standards, you should be following their gods.

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#72435 Jan 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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There are more bytes of data online regarding the FSM than any other god. So by your standards, it's more true than your god.
Bits, bytes, kilobytes, megabytes, gigabytes and terabytes can not come up without our complex brains. This is God's handiwork.

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#72436 Jan 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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By stating it's "self evident" you destroy your entire case instantly.
how so?

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#72437 Jan 27, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Well of course. Every ideology thinks that their view is the only view.
Have you taken that into consideration about views of Science?
This must be acknowledged, if you want unbias truth.
Yes, and since science has no ideology I have reason to utilize it as a method for discovering reality. I lack any ideology, I simply go with the evidence, if there is no evidence to study then the assertion can be dismissed as nothing more than wishful thinking or mythology. Your notions of a "creator" are either wishful thinking or mythology, unless you have any actual evidence instead of more assertions?

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#72438 Jan 27, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Bits, bytes, kilobytes, megabytes, gigabytes and terabytes can not come up without our complex brains. This is God's handiwork.
Where is the evidence of your assertion here? I keep asking for evidence but none of you have supplied any. No evidence of your god, until you provide evidence of your god then it is nothing more than mythology.

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#72439 Jan 27, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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how so?
Because nothing is self evident.

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#72440 Jan 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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If so, then your creator must need a creator. Then that creator needs a creator. Then that one ... and so on. Infinite regression, and thus proving your creator is impossible.
No!
Unless you don't understand or know the meaning of God( YAWEH).
Any one that bears that title can never be created. Only YAHWEH has that title.

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#72441 Jan 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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By stating it's "self evident" you destroy your entire case instantly.
Do you consider yourself an intelligent process of the Universe, or a non-intelligent one?

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#72442 Jan 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Because nothing is self evident.
Your own existence is not self evident?

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#72443 Jan 27, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
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So you're asking for a holy book that talks extensively about the Flying Spaghetti Monster, right?
You're not familiar with the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? It was written by Bobby Henderson and published by Villiard Press in 2006.
The central belief is that an invisible and undetectable Flying Spaghetti Monster created the universe. Pirates are revered as the original Pastafarians (a portmanteau of pasta and Rastafarian),[9] and Henderson asserts that the steady decline in the number of pirates over the years has resulted in global warming.
So that's what you asked for.
Are you satisfied, or are you going to move the goalpost?
From your post, the said liar was never a christian. Christians always follow the tenets and precepts of the bible.

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#72444 Jan 27, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Your own existence is not self evident?
No, my existence is not self evident. Evidence of my existence includes, but is not limited to:

1. I can be touched.
2. I can be seen.
3. I can be tasted.
4. I can be smelled.
5. I can post responses to people.
6. I can be heard.

You need to learn what evidence is.

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#72445 Jan 27, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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We don't know. Until we get there we won't know. Now enough of this red herring.
FOUL!!!

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#72446 Jan 27, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Do you consider yourself an intelligent process of the Universe, or a non-intelligent one?
I am the result of chemical reactions, just like you.

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#72447 Jan 27, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> No!
Unless you don't understand or know the meaning of God( YAWEH).
Any one that bears that title can never be created. Only YAHWEH has that title.
So if you have one exception to your "rule," then why is it there can be no other exceptions? Demonstrate the boundary, the mechanism that prevents anything else from coming into existence through natural processes.

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#72448 Jan 27, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
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And that explains how humans ended up with a triune brain?
I've seen red herrings before, but this beats everything!
Digression.

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#72449 Jan 27, 2013
Flying Spaghetti Monster?

Just another Science cult.

Actually, I think it was back in the 1800, there was a atheist's cult that worshiped Satan mock Christianity.

Nothing new under the sun.

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#72450 Jan 27, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
Flying Spaghetti Monster?
Just another Science cult.
Actually, I think it was back in the 1800, there was a atheist's cult that worshiped Satan mock Christianity.
Nothing new under the sun.
Wow, you are really naive. It's actually not even a belief, it's an analogy that demonstrates the folly of your religious nonsense. Just wow, I never thought anyone could be as ignorant as you, no one actually believes there is a FSM.

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