Evolution vs. Creation

[anonymous]

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text> Pierre, that is also your name...

Got something against the French?

[anonymous]

bohart wrote:

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Well I really could care less what you think about what I was raised to believe. Do you believe human beings are instinctively good or evil? The thin veneer of civilization holds most human evils in check, if the sun emitted a giant solar flare and put the United states back into the 1800's do you believe people would work together to help their fellow man get through it? or be eating each other in a matter of weeks.

I think that some people have different psychological algorithms than others. Some are modern urban types who harden their discipline under the pressures of urban life, while others turn to mob hysteria. The same urban types aren't too motivated to keep moving when placed in a wilderness environment and may tend to become a liability to others.

Tragically, there's no real perfect ideal for all environments, but by observing the culture of Empire nations, one does get a good understanding of the ebb and flow of the times they lived in. Empires aren't about conquerors or kings. They are about the will of a culture to exceed the status-quo of the world around them.

The Dark Ages were a bad time to live. You had the little Ice Age, the collapse of Roman authority, and a few nasty plagues trashing the landscape for centuries. What came out of them was the Holy Roman Empire and finally the Renaissance. The Holy Roman Empire seems to have been a period of redefinition of leadership, while the Renaissance was more of a redefinition of Economics.

The problem nowadays is that we have cycles of instability, with industry and population exceeding the conventions of government every 20 to 80 years or so. Personally, I don't think the Church, with their old school moral dogma is on top of what is going on, and they are indignant about what they call "moral relativism". But that moral relativism is our culture working out solutions to the problems we face. What else can you call it but genuine morality?

What the Church should have to offer is about remembering the lessons learned during the days of the Holy Roman Empire. I don't think they are content with that limited a role. That kind of ambition is generally what I'd call autocratic and immoral. Feel free to explain why you might disagree.

Fossil fuels might run out, making our current philosophies obsolete? Globalization makes the conventions of nations obsolete? There's plenty to discuss. Just don't hit people over the head with your presumed authority.

[MADRONE]

bohart wrote:

Blessed be the goo! the giver of life to you.

You seem to have a preoccupation with "goo". Do you masturbate a lot?

[The Dude]

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text> You have not address the point. Evolution from non- human to human, are un-acceptable...

Uh, you got that the wrong way round bub. It's YOU who has not addressed the point. Any of them in fact. And they are:

1 - Evolution has been scientifically demonstrated.

2 - That includes these threads since none of you fundies are capable of addressing the evidence, only ignoring it.

3 - Most the UK, who may be considered predominantly Christian, accept evolution in exactly the way you don't like.

4 - What is unacceptable to YOU is irrelevant as your baseless religious opinions are irrelevant. You don't know any more about theology than anyone else does, period.

[The Dude]

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text> You and every macro Evolutionist are all liars.
Go on spreading your fallacies you call, theory. Shit!

Your accusation is baseless. You're welcome to your opinion but we both know you're utterly ignorant of the subject. Which actually makes you the dishonest one, making baseless proclamations on a subject you know nothing about.

Nice try at projection though.

[The Dude]

bohart wrote:

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Blessed be the goo! the giver of life to you.

Still trotting out that same old lame joke eh Bo? Well whatever keeps you entertained. Just let us know when you're about to say something smart, we'll call Guinness.(shrug)

[Hidingfromyou]

Kong_ wrote:

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Actually, Chuckles was referencing a 2001 movie that Martin Lawrence starred in.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0265087/

Ah...oops! Bad me.

[Hidingfromyou]

Langoliers wrote:

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Good! Go ahead.
I'll wait.

Wow, you are a hateful person. Did your religion teach you that?

[Hidingfromyou]

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text> An imbecile is an imbecile. Idiomatic expression or not. Look it up.

At least you know who you are.

:)

[Hidingfromyou]

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text> Between Christianity, Islam, Bahai, Budhism, Taoism, Hinduism, Shintoism and others, Christianity is the largest, a fact you can not deny.

True. And "No religion" is the third largest in the world, right after Islam! Woohooo! We're like Snapple :)

So...are Catholics Christian for you? What about Jehovah's Witnesses? And Mormons?

They call count toward Christian in the polls.

[Hidingfromyou]

bohart wrote:

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I don't believe people want to be evil,its just that humans are primarily evil in their nature, its what we are.

We do not have to be evil, sir.

[FREE SERVANT]

I believe the Lord is longsuffering and he will allow vengeance if in self defence Matthew 21: 40 & 41 and the judgement of the world will be a terrible event Luke 12:49 and 13:3, this has not been kept secret, Mark 4:22 he is putting out a call because we only have a short space and time to accept his offer of salvation.

[FREE SERVANT]

Jesus became angry at religious leaders who made his place a den of thieves. I am as well as all Christians are expected to tell the truth and not sugar coat the Bible to try and make money off of people.

[The Dude]

Hidingfromyou wrote:

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We do not have to be evil, sir.

Since he's indoctrinated that way he may not have much choice.

[The Dude]

FREE SERVANT wrote:

I believe the

We still don't care, Mikey.

[TerryL]

FREE SERVANT wrote:

Jesus became angry at religious leaders who made his place a den of thieves. I am as well as all Christians are expected to tell the truth and not sugar coat the Bible to try and make money off of people.

it's the 'sugar-coating' that makes it easy for the sheep to swallow

[FREE SERVANT]

The Dude wrote:

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We still don't care, Mikey.

Funny, I just realized I spelled some words wrong with my last post. I don't have spell check on this phone.

[Kong_]

FREE SERVANT wrote:

<quoted text>Funny, I just realized I spelled some words wrong with my last post. I don't have spell check on this phone.

Right.

See if they have a "Logic Check" available to download as well.

[GatorBUILT]

Charles Idemi wrote:

<quoted text> From your comments you are gay. God is God whether in Christianity, Islam or any religion. The only difference is worship. Islam believes in warfare unlike Christianity, this could be better explained in the respective founders, Jesus and Muhammad.

Yah...Jesus as JEW...Peter and or Paul(saul the Jew from Tarsus) are the founders of Xianity dumbass...Yeshua bin Miriam ibn Yussef was Jew, lived as a Jew, had a bar Mitzvah, etc, etc...WROOOOONG...and Abraham id =s the FOUNDER of ALL Abrhamic religions, hence the moniker for Judaism, Xianity and Islam...thanks for playing...and of course Jesus did have a dinner party with his tweleve boyfriends and wear a dress...not that I give a flip, as I states...me gay?!?! No...but, who cares...only YOU, there closeted, dogamtic, latent homosexual...and it CRUSHES your tiny little mind because you can't reconcile your REAL sexual orienbtation with your dogmatic, guiilt-riddden self...hilarious...no,sorry, that's actually sad...and Xians nver enbgaged in warfare?!?!? HAHAHA! I guess those Romans, Greeks, Medieval Crusaders, And Geoerge W. Bush didn't get the message...hilarious what lengths of denial a dogmatic fool will stoop...LYING FOR JESUIS is BERING FALS WITNESS...SEE YOU IN HELL...do keep the sanctimony to a minimum...at least let us believe that you realize your horsesh!t bothjers none of us non-beleicvers...and of course Yahweh concurs, or I'd be dead, eh?!?ROFLMAO

[GatorBUILT]

The Dude wrote:

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And probably 99% BS. After all the same schpiel he copy-pasted can be found on any one of a number of fundie websites, but looking up Hume for example, can't actually find a genuine source.
But that's fundies for ya.(shrug)

They stopped using the "Darwin admitted..." LAdy Whoever story after they finally got the messager that Darwin's daughter denied her story...of 100 years ago...that's a FUNDIOT For ya...hohumLOLOLO