Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 209837 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#72356 Jan 26, 2013
I am that I am wrote:
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Don't forget pus, pussywillows and hurricanes! One out of three ain't bad.
You may not understand this. This is due to man's excessive abuse of the natural environment( earth) created by God.
We want to know every thing when in actual sense, we can not.
Stubborness, i may call that.
anonymous

Chagrin Falls, OH

#72357 Jan 26, 2013
bohart wrote:
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Is your conclusion that children would be better off living in a teepee on the plains eating raw buffalo liver until the god of evolution catches them up to todays pace?
What on Earth, kind of bigoted response is THAT?

First, don't get all snooty towards Native Americans. Most of Europe was in no more advanced state as little as 2000 years ago when the Romans took control. Second, using fire and cooking food goes as far back as 300 to 400 thousand years ago, maybe longer. Homo Erectus used fire.
anonymous

Chagrin Falls, OH

#72358 Jan 26, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Atheism is fine, with it's a live and let live attitude...It's actually based on Christian values. But there is a subversive Atheist movement, bend on the destruction of Christianity in particular...these type of people have no respect for others at all...
Some even get payed for attacking Christianity...so don't ever expect respect from such people.
You're linking atheists with militant socialists. Militant socialists are like capitalist Christians. Their ambitions and prosperity are tied to their beliefs. Neither should be taken seriously, but you shouldn't assume that atheists who aren't militant socialists are anything other than people who have been a part of your community and culture for their entire lives. They're just making their own choices which, remarkably enough, can reflect a sense of morality that isn't just a fear of damnation.

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#72359 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You may not understand this. This is due to man's excessive abuse of the natural environment( earth) created by God.
We want to know every thing when in actual sense, we can not.
Stubborness, i may call that.
"We want to know every thing when in actual sense, we can not."

Exactly...

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#72360 Jan 26, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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You're linking atheists with militant socialists. Militant socialists are like capitalist Christians. Their ambitions and prosperity are tied to their beliefs. Neither should be taken seriously, but you shouldn't assume that atheists who aren't militant socialists are anything other than people who have been a part of your community and culture for their entire lives. They're just making their own choices which, remarkably enough, can reflect a sense of morality that isn't just a fear of damnation.
Your right.
That the reason I did not include all atheist in my statement.
The same that all who call themselves Christians are not truly Christians in the sense of the word.

“what we think we become”

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#72361 Jan 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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You mistake me for an atheist making a positive case for atheism. I don't care. Science doesn't care. I'm quite open to the possibility. I just have different ideas about such an entity as you do.
And what are your ideas about such entity?

Why Europeans go to extremes about their ideas? One can't be an atheist if one wants to join a secret order because you know there is one great architect of the universe that is a supreme being. One discovers America in pursuit of the fountain of youth without some alien encounter from the sky. One has to be a skeptic to accept Darwinian naturalism or will be ridiculed and yet they are so proud of their sovereign city-state, the Vatican, where the Popes are protected from getting shot by who, the Nazis or KKK wannabe's? But probably not descendants of Pilgrims who were rebels and killed the Native Indians. You have Kings who are said to come from lineage of the holy grail that the Templars protected and kept hidden for centuries, not to mention the VI-Kings and their mystery. You have the 13 bloodlines who control the entire planet. Now it's all under one union. What's next?

So again, I really want to know what your own ideas about such entity.

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#72362 Jan 26, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
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A skeptical attitude is wrong?
What if I'm approached by both a Republican and a Democrat during election season?
What if I'm approached by a World Book salesman, an Encyclopedia Brittanica salesman, and a Kirby vacuum cleaner salesman?
What if I'm approached by a Moonie, a Jehovah's Witness, and a Hare Krishna?
What if I'm approached by an astrologer, a numerologist, and apalm reader?
"Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing"

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#72363 Jan 26, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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"We want to know every thing when in actual sense, we can not."
Exactly...
Excessive excavations for precious stones and other minerals have turned the earth to another thing, human's activity have adversely depleted the ozone layers, yet we still don't know everything...
May God save us all, amen.

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#72365 Jan 26, 2013
I am etc wrote:
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Interesting. Yet after Franklin we had two world wars, Hitler's ovens, Stalin's gulags, Pol Pots death camps, Japanese murders marches & their rape of Nanking, and just a few years ago a govenment-planned famine in North Korea.
Who was he calling enlightened? Surely not all the world.
Does the Illuminati ring a bell?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72366 Jan 26, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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There's a world of difference between applied science, and theoretical science.
Yes, "theoretical" science refers to hypotheses that cannot currently be tested. Such concepts include the multiverse idea. It may or may not be testable if and when we develop a fully-working theory of quantum gravity.

Applied science is using practical scientific tests to achieve successful results. Such theories include the theory of evolution.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72367 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Lol
Buddy, there is a limitation for humans, " death ".
So, if there is, science or scientific method do have limitations.
Faith carries the day.
This is irrelevant to the validity of science and your opinions re: faith are nothing but that.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72368 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Dreaming again!
How can some body ate his own kind, kill his or her own child, and many more?
Think!
I can't think based on your stilted English. This doesn't make sense.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72369 Jan 26, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Evolutionist on this thread, seem to be infatuated with killing...that seems to be the only bible verses that they are willing to reference.
Only when fundies make daft arguments about "holy" morality.

Of course this tangent still has no bearing on the validity of science.

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#72370 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Excessive excavations for precious stones and other minerals have turned the earth to another thing, human's activity have adversely depleted the ozone layers, yet we still don't know everything...
May God save us all, amen.
Amen.
It'll all works out in the end. I'm sure.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72371 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Lol
I like that. If God does not gave humans their complex, can they create or invent things?
Think Buddy!
As long as humans are around, yes, they can invent things. It matters little whether there is a god that made them or not, just as long as there are humans. There are humans. God? Maybe. Maybe not. There's simply no way to tell.
Charles Idemi wrote:
Islam is just an offshoot of Judaism and Christianity blended with Islamic culture.
Wow!

Really?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72372 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>I am telling it/ that to your face that, humans are imperfect except God.
Go on spreading your garbage( hubris).
You're telling it, but it's no different to a Hindu telling me Vishnu is perfect.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72373 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> God, Jesus are real. No one can deny. Why? Because of my personal encounter of them, thanks to the bible and other religious books for more edifications of my faith.
Despite that, i do have respect for Bill( Thewordofme).
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is real. No-one can deny. Why? Because of my personal encounter of them. And I don't mean just a bunch of old books like the Bible is true cuz the Bible sez so, I mean I have been Touched by His Noodly Appendage.

RAMEN!
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72374 Jan 26, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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LOL. Is that a joke? What were scientists thinking about quoting a bible verse in natural history museums? I just went to visit a local one recently near a prestigious university.
Here's another:
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/archive/Cre...
see it for yourself, dude.
Hmm, they didn't seem to give creationists much credence. But I wouldn't expect them to. That's why creo's have made their own creationist "museums" instead, such as the recent one made by Ken Ham. Kids can go there and ride on the back of a dinosaur complete with saddle!

But scientifically, a god is not relevant to science because we can't perform any scientific tests on it.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72375 Jan 26, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is fine, with it's a live and let live attitude...It's actually based on Christian values. But there is a subversive Atheist movement, bend on the destruction of Christianity in particular...these type of people have no respect for others at all...
Some even get payed for attacking Christianity...so don't ever expect respect from such people.
If you find out who those groups are there's a poster who calls himself "Skeptic". I call him Skippy the fundie atheist. Anyway, I think he'd like to join 'em.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72376 Jan 26, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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And what are your ideas about such entity?
All human concepts of "god" are invented. Any intelligent entity capable of creating entire universes in its spare time not only exists beyond the boundaries of our universe and hence undetectable to us, but also beyond the boundaries of human comprehension.

So while it is possible that such a thing exists, it's quite pointless making any proclamations about it that attempt to go beyond mere philosophical speculation.

Of course that's just my personal opinion.
Cybele wrote:
Why Europeans go to extremes about their ideas?
Do they? 50% of Americans go to extremes such as Biblical (semi) literalism, whereby there really where talking lizards and donkeys, and man and dinos really did walk together just like in the Flinstones.
Cybele wrote:
One can't be an atheist if one wants to join a secret order because you know there is one great architect of the universe that is a supreme being.
Suppose it depends on the secret order. Raellians are atheists, and they think the supreme beings are aliens.
Cybele wrote:
One discovers America in pursuit of the fountain of youth without some alien encounter from the sky. One has to be a skeptic to accept Darwinian naturalism or will be ridiculed and yet they are so proud of their sovereign city-state, the Vatican, where the Popes are protected from getting shot by who, the Nazis or KKK wannabe's? But probably not descendants of Pilgrims who were rebels and killed the Native Indians. You have Kings who are said to come from lineage of the holy grail that the Templars protected and kept hidden for centuries, not to mention the VI-Kings and their mystery. You have the 13 bloodlines who control the entire planet. Now it's all under one union. What's next?
Dunno. I leave that to the conspiracy theorists and Hollywood.
Cybele wrote:
So again, I really want to know what your own ideas about such entity.
Just done it above.

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