Evolution vs. Creation

There are 20 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#72321 Jan 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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You're lying (again). You've respected no-one. As you are constantly dishonest and are incapable of addressing scientific evidence in a scientific manner. Denial is all you have.
Again, is scientific method man made, yes or no?
If yes, it is not all that reliable.
Denial is all you have.(Shrug).

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#72322 Jan 26, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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But of course, they were unbelievers like you.They cared more about killing, and pleasures of the flesh than spiritual matters.
In fact what does this thread always deteriorate to, time and time again...

the subject of killing and homosexuality.

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#72323 Jan 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Yeah, don't be a skeptic! Just accept any old BS that Chuck comes up with!
What ever!
You have no idea of reality, you " evotards"( retarded evos)...

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#72324 Jan 26, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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You sound a lot like Adolf Hitler did. We should be watching your kind more closely.
Likewise.
The Dude

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#72325 Jan 26, 2013
God Himself wrote:
All you have done is redefined aspects of reproduction to suit evolution theory.
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See what I'm saying.
It is an undeniable fact that "reproduction provides variation, differential reproduction, and heredity"
But that those elements contribute to a general "evolution", is your contribution to the observations of aspects of reproduction.
Its as if you see two motor tires lying on the ground and conclude that they are put there by the same person.
Now, while such a conclusion is plausible, events could have transpired differently than the way you concluded that they did.
You bear a burden of proof somewhat, because YOU CANNOT SAY THAT EVOLUTION OCCURRED UNTIL YOU CAN SAY THAT IT WAS NOT ANYTHING ELSE THAT OCCURRED.
We don't have to falsify other possibilities that have either not been proposed or have no evidence.

So what's your alternative explanation for orthologous ERV's in great apes?
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Your head must have been spinning when you wrote that because it is nothing more than circular reasoning.
Change is the resulting of something different over time; so how is it that you start out with "change" and arrive at the definition of change as the change?
It is as if you said "change is changing".
Change means something becomes something slightly different. You really need a definition of such a simple word as "change"?
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There is never any need to dispute anything.
We hold that God is Omnipotent, having all potentials; so we can fit whatever you say into the set of things done by God.
Bingo. Meaning evidence is irrelevant. Evolution happened? Goddidit. Didn't happen? Goddidit. Evidence of God? Zip.

Your baseless religious opinions are irrelevant.
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There is no need for us religitards to dispute evidence either.
However, there is always a need to question the TREATMENT OF EVIDENCE.
The observer always contributes to what is observed; or didnt you hear?
Yet we can test it. For example we can all pretty much agree on the colour "red", unless one happens to be colour-blind (also testable).
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All thats happening here is that you are asking how it occurred SPONTANEOUSLY while I am asking how GOD-DID-IT.
But interestingly, the involvement of an agent is superfluous to the study of a thing created by that agent.
No, I am explaining how it occurred. "God" is irrelevant to science, period. Unless you have scientific evidence.
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So I can accept scientific fact without ceasing to believe in God.
If that were the case you'd be a theistic evolutionist.
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However, your whole world falls apart even if you as much as think for a second that God may be real and existent.
I find that interesting.
You mistake me for an atheist making a positive case for atheism. I don't care. Science doesn't care. I'm quite open to the possibility. I just have different ideas about such an entity as you do.
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Fools seldom differ in opinions.*shrug*
I agree you have no coherent argument so instead have to rely on ad-hom.
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But its more disturbing that people with science education can be so stupid.
Indeed. Even some YEC's are scientists. Not that they can scientifically support their religious beliefs.
The Dude

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#72326 Jan 26, 2013
I also note your use of "religitard", as if that's my opinion of theists. It never has been.

Don't mistake criticism of fundies for criticism of theists. Fundies do that because they enjoy playing the martyr complex (just ask Chuck).
The Dude

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#72327 Jan 26, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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But of course, they were unbelievers like you.They cared more about killing, and pleasures of the flesh than spiritual matters.
No, they were believers. And they still enjoyed those things even AFTER Rome became Christian.

Twice.

Me on the other hand, I find killing distasteful. Nice try at ad-hom though.
The Dude

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#72328 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You have no evidence either.
Who are the reviewers? are they not humans?
Damn!
Humans are all we have to review. Your god is undemonstrated.

Besides, to err is to human. You could be wrong about God. You will never accept that because of your own hubris.
The Dude

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#72329 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You are not Bill( Thewordofme) are you?
We respect each others views and integrity, despite our differences.
You are wrong again.
If you respected them you wouldn't be so dishonest. I'll be honest and come right out and say that I don't respect fundies, for that very reason.

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#72330 Jan 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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And killing it.
"God giveth and taketh away"

The Dude

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#72331 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Again, is scientific method man made, yes or no?
If yes, it is not all that reliable.
Denial is all you have.(Shrug).
Your computer seems quite reliable so far.(shrug)

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#72332 Jan 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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So the fundies claim. Of course there's no historical basis for that. Funny how Jesus was running around performing all manner of impressive magic and not one single Roman bothered to even take notice until a minimum of 100 years after his alleged death. Hence why there's not a single contemporary account of Jesus.
Not that this matters in the slightest to you, since you outright blatantly LIED the last time you brought up the idea of Roman historians supporting Jesus.(shrug)
Liar!
This was a Jewish conspiracy, but nothing can ever be hidden under the sun.
Pliny the younger, Tacitus, etc, talked about Christ and Christians. They let the cats out of the bags.
The Dude

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#72333 Jan 26, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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In fact what does this thread always deteriorate to, time and time again...
the subject of killing and homosexuality.
Well the fundies keep bringing it up.(shrug)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#72334 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> What ever!
You have no idea of reality, you " evotards"( retarded evos)...
LIKEWISE!!!

:-p

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#72335 Jan 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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I did. Your god's an ahole.(shrug)
Dreaming again!
How can some body ate his own kind, kill his or her own child, and many more?
Think!

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#72336 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
Don't be a sceptic( skeptic)...
A skeptical attitude is wrong?
What if I'm approached by both a Republican and a Democrat during election season?
What if I'm approached by a World Book salesman, an Encyclopedia Brittanica salesman, and a Kirby vacuum cleaner salesman?
What if I'm approached by a Moonie, a Jehovah's Witness, and a Hare Krishna?
What if I'm approached by an astrologer, a numerologist, and apalm reader?

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#72337 Jan 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Your computer seems quite reliable so far.(shrug)
There's a world of difference between applied science, and theoretical science.

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#72338 Jan 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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No wild guesses. Hence they pass scientific testing.
Hence why you are incapable of going through it piece by piece and objectively showing to everyone here why it's wrong in a scientific manner.
Poor boy.
Lol
Buddy, there is a limitation for humans, " death ".
So, if there is, science or scientific method do have limitations.
Faith carries the day.

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#72339 Jan 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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No, they were believers. And they still enjoyed those things even AFTER Rome became Christian.
Twice.
Me on the other hand, I find killing distasteful. Nice try at ad-hom though.
Evolutionist on this thread, seem to be infatuated with killing...that seems to be the only bible verses that they are willing to reference.

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#72340 Jan 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Faith isn't an answer. It may be fine on a personal philosophical level, but beyond that can be considered BS. Muslims have faith yet you would dispute their answers DESPITE the fact you just said that they have the best approach.
Of course if scientists really COULDN'T find that evidence and were working as fruitlessly as you claim, you wouldn't even be able to type on that computer you're on right now.
Never let it be said that fundies aren't monumentally massive hypocrites.
Lol
I like that. If God does not gave humans their complex, can they create or invent things?
Think Buddy!
Islam is just an offshoot of Judaism and Christianity blended with Islamic culture.

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