Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 221490 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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#72292 Jan 26, 2013
God Himself wrote:
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The 72 virgins is actually more of an esoteric principle that a number of literal virgins. Many Muslims dont know that and they never will.
The number 72 is of great significance when dealing with Semitic philosophies of religion and spirituality.
72 represents the number of specific influences through which God's action/influence over all creation.
Islam came out of Judaism (Muhammed was a Hebrew/Jew at one time, but got fed up and decided to find God for himself).
So if you want to understand the significance of the number 72, you may have to search about:
"The 72 Names/Attributes of God".
But essentially, to see the 72 attributes as virgins which one will receive, represents the idea that one will "become one" with the powers of God.
Don't get me started with math.

They should've stopped at 42!
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72294 Jan 26, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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It was on the HISTORY CHANNEL for God's sake...it's a science show!LMAO
( or maybe it was the Discovery Channel or Nova, I can't remember...but the point is it was on one of the major science channels)
History Channel can do some good stuff. But sometimes they also do "documentaries" on UFO's and "ancient aliens".

They are after all about making money, just like any other TV channel.

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#72295 Jan 26, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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It was on the HISTORY CHANNEL for God's sake...it's a science show!LMAO
( or maybe it was the Discovery Channel or Nova, I can't remember...but the point is it was on one of the major science channels)
A science show is not a lecture, it's aim is to entertain like all shows.

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#72297 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You are wrong. This is just a Jewish conspiracy. Jesus existed.
Find out the work of Pliny the younger and others.
Pliny the younger was from the blood line of Pliny the elder, who witnessed Jesus.
You sound a lot like Adolf Hitler did. We should be watching your kind more closely.

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#72298 Jan 26, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Just because there's a television show saying that this myth is real, doesn't make it true, your Jesus is still a myth.
Actually the denial of the existence of the Christ, was preceded by the "Jesus is gay" campaign...(along with others)well that one didn't work out so well, so the tactics where changed.

It's an ideological propaganda war to attack Christianity.

In other words it a religious war plain and simple.

The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72299 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You are wrong. This is just a Jewish conspiracy. Jesus existed.
Find out the work of Pliny the younger and others.
Pliny the younger was from the blood line of Pliny the elder, who witnessed Jesus.
So the fundies claim. Of course there's no historical basis for that. Funny how Jesus was running around performing all manner of impressive magic and not one single Roman bothered to even take notice until a minimum of 100 years after his alleged death. Hence why there's not a single contemporary account of Jesus.

Not that this matters in the slightest to you, since you outright blatantly LIED the last time you brought up the idea of Roman historians supporting Jesus.(shrug)
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72300 Jan 26, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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For someone who cannot even see a simple pun as soul/sole...lol...no wonder you can't see an inch past your own dogma.lol
I admit, I spotted it after I posted it. Never mind.

:-/
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72301 Jan 26, 2013
God Himself wrote:
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Do you now see the implications of your idea that "ALL concepts are the result of brain chemistry" (or something to that effect)?
Yes.

Always have.

Gravity is a real phenomena. Our THEORIES about gravity exist ONLY as brain-states. They MAY or MAY NOT be correct. What science TRIES to achieve is to come up with the most accurate theory (also called scientific models) that fits with observed phenomena. And those theories are kept or disregarded based upon testing.

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#72302 Jan 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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History Channel can do some good stuff. But sometimes they also do "documentaries" on UFO's and "ancient aliens".
They are after all about making money, just like any other TV channel.
So you think we're alone in the universe? That life only exists on this planet?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72303 Jan 26, 2013
Fpro wrote:
If this leads into proposition that the universe is too orderly/perfect/beautiful/etc. that there had to be a greater intelligence at work in it's creation, the I have to ask this in return. If God was behind the creation of the universe and that explains everything.....who then created God. If you reply he always was, He wasn't created, then why is it not possible following the same logic that the universe was always, and didn't require a creator.
By claiming God created everything, you just push the question up a notch.Who created God?
Bingo. The universe could have had eternal antecedents which have nothing to do with (a) God. Or, if God requires no cause like the theists claim, then the universe doesn't have to either.

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#72304 Jan 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Therefore he killed them on purpose. Meaning your claim "He didn't mean to kill anybody!" was complete bullshite.(shrug)
You are indeed a sceptic. Go through the bible and find out why God took the life of those abominable people and nations.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72305 Jan 26, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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Actually the denial of the existence of the Christ, was preceded by the "Jesus is gay" campaign...(along with others)well that one didn't work out so well, so the tactics where changed.
It's an ideological propaganda war to attack Christianity.
In other words it a religious war plain and simple.
Or it could simply be an objective examination of the evidence.(shrug)

There MAY have been a priest or preacher whom the stories of Jesus were based on. But that doesn't necessarily mean he was the magical offspring of an invisible Jewish wizard. But it's ALSO possible that Jesus was simply just another theistic invention, just as in the same way you consider the Mighty Thor to be a made up story by the Vikings.

Funny how when critical thinking is applied to your *baseless* religious opinions you see it as an "attack", but your anti-reality criticism of science you see as mere "scientific skepticism".

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#72306 Jan 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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I HAVE addressed it. You've never addressed mine.
Don't worry, neither has any other fundie.(shrug)
Likewise.
You have addressed none. It was just only an assertion that is subject to wild guessing.
Guessing, projections, exaggerations and manipulations, etc, can never be facts.

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#72307 Jan 26, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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A science show is not a lecture, it's aim is to entertain like all shows.
wow... so any show I see on tv about evolution, is for entertainment purposes only. Will keep that in mind.TY

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#72308 Jan 26, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Which is why they invented the scientific method and peer-review. By no means perfect, but so far no-one else has come up with a better method.
Oh, and God is undemonstrated. Therefore you can preach and proclaim as much as you like, and all we need do is say "Show us the evidence!"
You haven't once in all the time you've been here.
Scientist are humans, and the saying goes, to err is human.
The best answer is faith. No one can really find that evidence except God.
Go on with your fruitless quest.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72309 Jan 26, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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So you think we're alone in the universe? That life only exists on this planet?
Way too early to tell yet. But if life exists here, there's no reason why it can't anywhere else. God or no.

I mean, what - God made this entire universe just for us even though we can barely get past our own solar system? Surely the guy must have played around making other lifeforms on other planets elsewhere too, right? Otherwise He could have stopped once he made the Milky Way.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72310 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You are indeed a sceptic. Go through the bible and find out why God took the life of those abominable people and nations.
I did. Your god's an ahole.(shrug)
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72311 Jan 26, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Likewise.
You have addressed none. It was just only an assertion that is subject to wild guessing.
Guessing, projections, exaggerations and manipulations, etc, can never be facts.
No wild guesses. Hence they pass scientific testing.

Hence why you are incapable of going through it piece by piece and objectively showing to everyone here why it's wrong in a scientific manner.

Poor boy.

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#72313 Jan 26, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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So you think we're alone in the universe? That life only exists on this planet?
Apparently God loves creating life..
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#72314 Jan 26, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
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wow... so any show I see on tv about evolution, is for entertainment purposes only. Will keep that in mind.TY
Since it's for the common laypeople, yeah. That's why they can sometimes make mistakes (the Walking With Dinosaurs one being an example where they portray an ancient crab as a land-dwelling animal rather than aquatic - later evidence showed otherwise). In the end, what really matters in science is scientific research. Not TV shows.

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