Evolution vs. Creation

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High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

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Jan 24, 2013
 
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Well I really could care less what you think about what I was raised to believe. Do you believe human beings are instinctively good or evil? The thin veneer of civilization holds most human evils in check, if the sun emitted a giant solar flare and put the United states back into the 1800's do you believe people would work together to help their fellow man get through it? or be eating each other in a matter of weeks.
It is nice to see that you care about how others think you were raised to believe. Perhaps you think they will pity you since you grew up in a house of bad standards.

As to the second part of your post, the government might fail, but groups of people would still work together. It would soon be obvious that a group working together could protect their own property from lone marauders. These communities would grow as they realized that bigger groups could withstand groups of marauders and soon we would have a civilization again. Maybe not as well developed as today's, but it would be a series of civilized groups and not Rambos the would rule the new U.S..

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Jan 25, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Just shut up and learn, you blind brat.
The bible's mention of deities include Dagon, Asherah poles, and others.
The living God, has many titles or accolades which include Jehovah Shalom, Nissi, Shammah, Tsedkenu, Rapha, Elshaddai, etc.
Find out and learn about this supreme God.
Oh, I am petrified, see me shaking in my boots at the wrath of your words you deliberately ignorant prat. Honey christians have tried to kill me and tried to kill my children, do you really think your stupid verbal threats mean anything? Looks like the babble has taught you intolerance and aggression well - right? And people like you hold your hands up in incredulity when the people you abuse respond in kind. You really are a true and moronic godbot.

Yes the babble mentions several gods and the majority of them are NOT the god you worship. In your gods own claimed words he acknowledges at least 37 other gods and often refers to “Us” as in gods. It is true that he often shows contempt and offers threats to these other gods, rather like you – yes? You have learned the babble well despite having sub consciously filtered out the reason for the intolerance, hatred and violence your god book teaches.

Exodus 12:12(esv) For I will pass through the land of Egypt that night, and I will strike all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and on all the ***GODS*** of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am the LORD

What about Psalm 82:1-2(esv) God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the GODS he holds judgment: "How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked?

And Psalm 82:6-7: I said, "You are GODS, sons of the Most High, all of you; nevertheless, like men you shall die, and fall like any prince."

This just shows your ignorance of the book you learn your spite and hatred from, those are not “many titles” those are ***OTHER GODS*** that your own egotistical, selfish and violent god acknowledges while being a genocidal, child murdering apologist for rape

Genesis 6:11-17 and 7:11-24
Exodus 12:29
Deuteronomy 21:10-13

Why, in your deliberate ignorance, do you think you know more about the babble than the babble?

Why, in your deliberate ignorance, do you feel you are ABOVE the god you worship?

Why, in your deliberate ignorance, do you feel that selectively IGNOREING whole rafts of the babble justifies your belief?

Honey, I learned about your god before your mother threw the wrong bit away after you were born, I learned how the babble teaches violence, aggression, hatred, spite, intolerance, ignorance. In 5 out of 6 of these points you show you have learned well and I am pretty sure the violence is not far behind.

P.S. you forgot the FIRST name of god in your list and I really would have thought the first name used in the book from which your babble OT was (selectively) copied would be quite important to a christard. Perhaps I am wrong, perhaps you don’t really care where the stories came from.

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Jan 25, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Open your closed eyes, christianity among other religion is always at the top of the chart.
Eyes and mind open, christianity is in decline, it is, I believe, the only faith that is in decline.

Was NOT on top in the past, so “always” is just another christian lie, right? Or is it just your own delusion?

Here is a quick history lesson, much of the meat is omitted because I don’t have time to sit here for three years trying to educate you.

Christianity (Roman Catholicism) was a local European religion, the remnants of the Western Roman Empire. It was started, as are so many such faiths by anarchy, terrorism and wholesale loss of life.

It could not get a decent foothold in the Eastern Roman Empire, the land in which it originated, which incidentally was the cause of considerable loss of life during the Crusades. It eventually collapsed when the Ottoman empire crushed the remains of the Eastern Roman Empire in 1453.

It was schismed by Henry VIII which was of course responsible for considerable loss of life that resulted from the several religious wars that followed.

Up until the expansion of the British Empire it remained predominantly a local European religion, that expansion slightly helped the numbers and was of course responsible for considerable loss of life in the process.

The Opening up of the Americas , both north and south by conquest, and considerable loss of life is the only christianity is so popular.

Do you see a pattern here?

Although christianity is rising inline with the population increase in the Americas in Europe and the rest of the world it is in decline. Unless the christian attitude of hatred and spite is dropped and a more open understanding taken then in most of Europe, including the currently christian strongholds of Italy and Spain christianity will be a minority faith by next century.

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#72093
Jan 25, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Just grow up and stop being naive.
You don't understand the bible...
Say what? Your ignorance knows no bounds…

I posted 3 (THREE) T- H – R – E – E verse numbers that VERIFY my three claims of your god being a genocidal child murdering apologist got rape and it is me who does not understand the babble.

In another post I noted several biblical references to there being multiple gods mentioned and acknowledged in the babble.

Are you really that crazy? Or is it that you have been beaten around the head so often with your parents babble that you are now brain damaged and know no better?
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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Pierre, that is also your name...
Got something against the French?
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bohart wrote:
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Well I really could care less what you think about what I was raised to believe. Do you believe human beings are instinctively good or evil? The thin veneer of civilization holds most human evils in check, if the sun emitted a giant solar flare and put the United states back into the 1800's do you believe people would work together to help their fellow man get through it? or be eating each other in a matter of weeks.
I think that some people have different psychological algorithms than others. Some are modern urban types who harden their discipline under the pressures of urban life, while others turn to mob hysteria. The same urban types aren't too motivated to keep moving when placed in a wilderness environment and may tend to become a liability to others.

Tragically, there's no real perfect ideal for all environments, but by observing the culture of Empire nations, one does get a good understanding of the ebb and flow of the times they lived in. Empires aren't about conquerors or kings. They are about the will of a culture to exceed the status-quo of the world around them.

The Dark Ages were a bad time to live. You had the little Ice Age, the collapse of Roman authority, and a few nasty plagues trashing the landscape for centuries. What came out of them was the Holy Roman Empire and finally the Renaissance. The Holy Roman Empire seems to have been a period of redefinition of leadership, while the Renaissance was more of a redefinition of Economics.

The problem nowadays is that we have cycles of instability, with industry and population exceeding the conventions of government every 20 to 80 years or so. Personally, I don't think the Church, with their old school moral dogma is on top of what is going on, and they are indignant about what they call "moral relativism". But that moral relativism is our culture working out solutions to the problems we face. What else can you call it but genuine morality?

What the Church should have to offer is about remembering the lessons learned during the days of the Holy Roman Empire. I don't think they are content with that limited a role. That kind of ambition is generally what I'd call autocratic and immoral. Feel free to explain why you might disagree.

Fossil fuels might run out, making our current philosophies obsolete? Globalization makes the conventions of nations obsolete? There's plenty to discuss. Just don't hit people over the head with your presumed authority.

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Blessed be the goo! the giver of life to you.
You seem to have a preoccupation with "goo". Do you masturbate a lot?
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Jan 25, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You have not address the point. Evolution from non- human to human, are un-acceptable...
Uh, you got that the wrong way round bub. It's YOU who has not addressed the point. Any of them in fact. And they are:

1 - Evolution has been scientifically demonstrated.

2 - That includes these threads since none of you fundies are capable of addressing the evidence, only ignoring it.

3 - Most the UK, who may be considered predominantly Christian, accept evolution in exactly the way you don't like.

4 - What is unacceptable to YOU is irrelevant as your baseless religious opinions are irrelevant. You don't know any more about theology than anyone else does, period.
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Jan 25, 2013
 
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> You and every macro Evolutionist are all liars.
Go on spreading your fallacies you call, theory. Shit!
Your accusation is baseless. You're welcome to your opinion but we both know you're utterly ignorant of the subject. Which actually makes you the dishonest one, making baseless proclamations on a subject you know nothing about.

Nice try at projection though.
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bohart wrote:
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Blessed be the goo! the giver of life to you.
Still trotting out that same old lame joke eh Bo? Well whatever keeps you entertained. Just let us know when you're about to say something smart, we'll call Guinness.(shrug)

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Kong_ wrote:
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Actually, Chuckles was referencing a 2001 movie that Martin Lawrence starred in.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0265087/
Ah...oops! Bad me.

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Langoliers wrote:
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Good! Go ahead.
I'll wait.
Wow, you are a hateful person. Did your religion teach you that?

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<quoted text> An imbecile is an imbecile. Idiomatic expression or not. Look it up.
At least you know who you are.

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Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Between Christianity, Islam, Bahai, Budhism, Taoism, Hinduism, Shintoism and others, Christianity is the largest, a fact you can not deny.
True. And "No religion" is the third largest in the world, right after Islam! Woohooo! We're like Snapple :)

So...are Catholics Christian for you? What about Jehovah's Witnesses? And Mormons?

They call count toward Christian in the polls.

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I don't believe people want to be evil,its just that humans are primarily evil in their nature, its what we are.
We do not have to be evil, sir.
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I believe the Lord is longsuffering and he will allow vengeance if in self defence Matthew 21: 40 & 41 and the judgement of the world will be a terrible event Luke 12:49 and 13:3, this has not been kept secret, Mark 4:22 he is putting out a call because we only have a short space and time to accept his offer of salvation.
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Jesus became angry at religious leaders who made his place a den of thieves. I am as well as all Christians are expected to tell the truth and not sugar coat the Bible to try and make money off of people.
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Hidingfromyou wrote:
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We do not have to be evil, sir.
Since he's indoctrinated that way he may not have much choice.
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We still don't care, Mikey.

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FREE SERVANT wrote:
Jesus became angry at religious leaders who made his place a den of thieves. I am as well as all Christians are expected to tell the truth and not sugar coat the Bible to try and make money off of people.
it's the 'sugar-coating' that makes it easy for the sheep to swallow

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