Evolution vs. Creation

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“Darwin was right..of course.”

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#71894 Jan 23, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
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You would be conscious.
Good thing there is no such thing as Hell. Iron age Bullsh!t

“what we think we become”

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above and beyond

#71895 Jan 23, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
I find a good representation of faith in William Blake - Auguries of Innocence...
If the sun and moon should doubt,
They'd immediately go out.
To be in a passion you good may do,
But no good if a passion is in you.
here's what I wrote a few years ago...

Paradox

Life is a paradox.
Was it creation
Was it evolution
that started all there is?

Knowledge is death of faith
to soul-less disparate minds
meandering through lifes journey
without much certainty.

When all is faced
with the last breath,
God aint dead
to put them
out of fire and brimstone.

Life is a paradox...
and I have to deal
with the unknown.

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Taizhou, China

#71896 Jan 23, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
It would seem that if we were so closely related as implied by the evolution theory, then religiosity would be readily apparent in the animal kingdom. I cannot even think of one example...can you?

There is some question about whether or not other animals have religion.
Some monogamous species hold something like wedding ceremonies.
I forgot where I read this, but elephants hold burial ceremonies for the dead.
(I don't see how anyone could bury an elephant, but apparently it's possible.)
We don't know how much of it is a ritual and how much of it is a sanitary precaution, but it looks like at least some of it is a ritual.
What's more, they hold these sessions in the evening, with all the participants facing toward the setting sun.

So it seems that symbolism is not an exclusive property of humans, either.

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#71897 Jan 23, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Research, numbnuts:
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/715...
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BFD
Do your research, Numbnut!
Gideons international and other christian charitable organisations, do give free bibles globally.

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Everett, WA

#71898 Jan 23, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Do your research, Numbnut!
Gideons international and other christian charitable organisations, do give free bibles globally.
He was not disagreeing with you fool. If you understood basic English you would have seen that.

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#71899 Jan 23, 2013
neutral observer wrote:
According to the Bible everyone gets eternal life.
I'm not sure.
Do sinful Evolutionists like me burn forever in Hell?
Or do we get liquidated in Hell?
In Revelation 20:14, an angel casts Satan and all his cronies into a lake of fire.
But Matthew 10:28 says, "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell."

Or does the Bible merely contradict itself?

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#71900 Jan 23, 2013
Cybele wrote:
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Just admit it. You simply lack human sex-attractant pheromones. lol
You must be a ghost or spirit for saying that. Irony!!!
Why are you un-attractive?

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#71901 Jan 23, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
God is not willing that anyone should perish and go to that place prepared for the devil and his angels.
Then who's forcing him?
Isn't he all-powerful?

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#71902 Jan 23, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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Genocide is wrong no matter how you paint it. But you call it things like "God's love" and "justice".
That's because fundies like yourself are incapable of genuine morality.
Don't limit that to Christians alone, every faiths and unbelievers are guilty of that.

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#71903 Jan 23, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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And your basis for that is...?
You want me to read between the lines? Ok...on an evolution versus creation forum, you constantly talk about homosexuality. I'm guessing your obsessed. Not sure why...let's read between the lines on this one and guess that homosexuality touches you deeply in some manner.
I can see that you always shut your brain when thinking or posting.
Am i the only one talking about Homosexuality?

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#71904 Jan 23, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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He was not disagreeing with you fool. If you understood basic English you would have seen that.
Then you must be a big fool for understanding and replying some one that you claimed, that don't understand basic English.

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#71905 Jan 23, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>here's what I wrote a few years ago...

Paradox

Life is a paradox.
Was it creation
Was it evolution
that started all there is?

Knowledge is death of faith
to soul-less disparate minds
meandering through life’s journey
without much certainty.

When all is faced
with the last breath,
God ain’t dead
to put them
out of fire and brimstone.

Life is a paradox...
and I have to deal
with the unknown.
Posted earlier by derek4

Last words of famous atheists:

Caesar Borgia: "While I lived, I provided for everything but death; now I must die, and am unprepared to die."

Thomas Hobbs political philosopher "I say again, if I had the whole world at my disposal, I would give it to live one day. I am about to take a leap into the dark."

Thomas Payne the leading atheistic writer in American colonies: "Stay with me, for God's sake; I cannot bear to be left alone , O Lord, help me! O God, what have I done to suffer so much? What will become of me hereafter? "I would give worlds if I had them, that The Age of Reason had never been published. 0 Lord, help me! Christ, help me!…No, don't leave; stay with me! Send even a child to stay with me; for I am on the edge of Hell here alone. If ever the Devil had an agent, I have been that one."

Sir Thomas Scott, Chancellor of England "Until this moment I thought there was neither a God nor a hell. Now I know and feel that there are both, and I am doomed to perdition by the just judgment of the Almighty."

David Hume, atheist philosopher famous for his philosophy of empiricism and skepticism of religion, he cried loud on his death bed "I am in flames!" It is said his "desperation was a horrible scene".

Napoleon Bonaparte, the French emperor, and who, like Adolf Hitler, brought death to millions to satisfy his greedy, power-mad, selfish ambitions for world conquest: "I die before my time, and my body will be given back to the earth. Such is the fate of him who has been called the great Napoleon. What an abyss between my deep misery and the eternal kingdom of Christ!”

Sir Francis Newport, the head of an English Atheist club to those gathered around his deathbed: "You need not tell me there is no God for I know there is one, and that I am in His presence! You need not tell me there is no hell. I feel myself already slipping. Wretches, cease your idle talk about there being hope for me! I know I am lost forever! Oh, that fire! Oh, the insufferable pangs of hell!…Oh, that I could lie for a thousand years upon the fire that is never quenched, to purchase the favor of God and be united to Him again. But it is a fruitless wish. Millions and millions of years will bring me no nearer the end of my torments than one poor hour. Oh, eternity, eternity forever and forever!, Oh, the insufferable pangs of Hell!”

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#71906 Jan 23, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>Then you must be a big fool for understanding and replying some one that you claimed, that don't understand basic English.
I am ever the optimist. I believe that even the biggest idiot can learn if he really puts his mind to it.

“I Am No One Else”

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#71907 Jan 23, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Don't hate the word, " truth " .
A child will always follow the right morals if he or she is given the right training or upbringing.
To you the "right training," you like treating humans like dogs huh, is only what you say it is. That's why you're inherently wrong.

“I Am No One Else”

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#71908 Jan 23, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Homosexuality has no positive impact on any culture.
Oh look, another assertion lacking any supporting evidence. How redundant.

Now you are a proven liar twice.

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#71910 Jan 23, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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I am ever the optimist. I believe that even the biggest idiot can learn if he really puts his mind to it.
No problem about that.
Learn to admit when you are wrong, Mr. Pessimist.

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#71911 Jan 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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To you the "right training," you like treating humans like dogs huh, is only what you say it is. That's why you're inherently wrong.
Irony!
Homosexuality is wrong. Period!

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#71912 Jan 23, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Oh look, another assertion lacking any supporting evidence. How redundant.
Now you are a proven liar twice.
You are indeed blind.

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#71913 Jan 24, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Irony!
Homosexuality is wrong. Period!
Where is your evidence of this assertion?

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#71914 Jan 24, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Where is your evidence of this assertion?
Interesting!
You are really blind. What is Homosexuality?
Is it ideal for a man/woman and another man/woman of the same sex to be lovers?
Think!

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