Evolution vs. Creation

Evolution vs. Creation

There are 216634 comments on the Best of New Orleans story from Jan 6, 2011, titled Evolution vs. Creation. In it, Best of New Orleans reports that:

High school senior Zack Kopplin is leading the fight to repeal the Louisiana Science Education Act of 2008.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Best of New Orleans.

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#71774 Jan 23, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>The drugs were found to have South American origins as well. DId you know that the pyramids were alters?
So the pharoahs were searching for altered states?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#71775 Jan 23, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>The drugs were found to have South American origins as well. DId you know that the pyramids were alters?
Tombs.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#71776 Jan 23, 2013
xxxooxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
All things are evident unto themselves...only man requires evidence.
Yup. And since we ARE human...(shrug)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#71777 Jan 23, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
So no game? Yet you list here your belief of what man is made from.
So why ask? You're just a typical lying atheist. I see through you like a a plate glass window. You atheist sure like your little games.
Bub, you couldn't see an elephant if you were stuck in the middle of a herd.(shrug)
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#71778 Jan 23, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
What makes you think I'm an atheist?
Why, you simply disagreed with him of course!

:-p
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#71779 Jan 23, 2013
Langoliers wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't need to provide that. You can look that up very easy.
What's to look up? MAGIC POOF! GODDIDIT! That pretty much covers it.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#71780 Jan 23, 2013
RappinRollerCoaster wrote:
Creation all the way, and hip hop.
Hip hop? Just when ya thought creationism couldn't get any worse!

Thought it was bad enough when they started doing Christian rock.
FREE SERVANT
#71781 Jan 23, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Tombs.
For the priest of the alters......

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#71782 Jan 23, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
No, we are talking about Evolution vs. Creation.
In case you haven't noticed, I'm the only person who has had the sense to challenge the liberal advocates who suggest that "homosexuality" is the product of evolution by the virtue of its presumed "positive" impact on a culture. Only I do it with logic, not bible thumping so stay out of my debates.
Natural selection is based on sexual reproduction. If there is no passing of the genes from one to the next generation, there will not be an inherited trait. Even if the detrimental effect of homosexual failure to procreate were not enough to prove the concept false, the plain-as-day fact that such a trait is inherently racist by its nature proves the false logic of the claim.
Genes are selfish, period! Groups overcome selfish instincts by experience, but trust is vulnerability sooner or later if the group behavior is not constantly relearned from generation to generation, and it must be learned far faster than evolution could ever adjust for. Trust is also a negative attribute if it is simply a behavior learned by misdirected sexual gratification, and has no ability to discern a valuable group member from a parasite.
There! You have a logical argument. Not that you'll ever be able to use to do anything other than bludgeon yourself under the table!
Homosexuality has no positive impact on any culture.
anonymous

Chagrin Falls, OH

#71783 Jan 23, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>
At first sight it does appear that a "gay gene" would be a contradiction in evolutionary terms. However, there are other examples of genes (really alleles) that are advantageous when one of the pair inherited from the parents has it, but deleterious when both do.
The gene conferring malarial resistance causes sickle cell anemia when inherited from both sides. This means it reaches an equilibrium in the population, conferring a net benefit so long as its not too prevalent. So it will never dominate, but never disappear either (unless a better solution evolves). There are other examples.
What if an allele that conferred some creative or other advantage in a single copy, causes homosexuality when inherited from both sides? This IS pure speculation, but its logically within the bounds of possibility.
On a completely different note. There is homosexuality. Those who are homosexual do not seem to have much choice in the matter. So WTF business is it to do with anyone else if they decide to do what they do? Its a victimless activity. Even gay marriage has NO impact on straight marriage. So who cares? Only those who fear its somehow contagious. Let it go.
The explanation is right before you. If a good quality becomes bad when combined with much the same, than it would be of limited value to the genome.

Also, there has been no genetic definition on the condition. As I've already stated, it's more of a symptom than a specific illness, or if there is an overwhelming statistical observation to be made, it's not genetic, nor is it even demonstrated to be advantageous to the community.

So really, there are two points. First, a medical condition is not something that I'd subvert science and the community over. Second, the issue of marriage is not victimless. It places a higher tax burden on those in the minority who do not receive tax breaks. This is really the typical liberal perspective where the budget is based on an always growing tax base, which is an illusion.

I think everyone who is going to accept evolution on this thread has long since done so. The rest have made their choices for other reasons. Virtually everyone has made a political choice. That is why I'm fine with adding the necessary imbalance in politics required to put science in proper perspective. Not too much of an obsession, but nobody seems willing to let it go, are they?

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#71784 Jan 23, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>The drugs were found to have South American origins as well. DId you know that the pyramids were alters?
I read that ancient Egyptian mommies put fly feces in their babies' milk to sedate them and keep them from crying.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#71785 Jan 23, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>For the priest of the alters......
For the Pharaohs.

Why are pyramids all over the world the same shape?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Level 7

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#71786 Jan 23, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>I read that ancient Egyptian mommies put fly feces in their babies' milk to sedate them and keep them from crying.
Where did you read that?

And did it work?
anonymous

Chagrin Falls, OH

#71787 Jan 23, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Since this thread is full of fundies thoughtful comments can be rare. However skewering trolls is not done merely for skewing trolls, it is also to counter the misinformation they spread. Which can at the very least provide potential lurkers to evaluate positions for themselves and hint at further lines of investigation.
That's an honest response. You're presenting a political position as well as a logical argument, looking out for the outsider. I'm sure you wouldn't like someone cutting up your arguments and pasting them together again like a crazy ransom note!

With that in mind, that's why I find it easier to keep the wording as close to impartiality as possible, but then post a conclusion at the end of the observation. Don't make assumptions that aren't essential to your point when the point is scientific. You can play whatever games you want with the politics, but the science should come first. Sound bites make bad science.

Just my humble observation! ;)
anonymous

Chagrin Falls, OH

#71788 Jan 23, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Shit!
This is a forum for all. What you have said had been said before.
Charles, scatological comments don't enhance the forum.

“When you treat people as they ”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#71789 Jan 23, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> Think straight!
What is the essence of women and men, if men are only interested in their sexes, instead of their sexes?
Don't turn your brain upside down.
I do think straight and in straight thinking it is easy to see that you have deliberately tried to screw the questions round a corner so you can ignore them.

You have not answered ANY of the questions, but instead offered a limited scope cop out that ignores human instincts and the desire for pleasure in any way that the CONSENTING humans personally choose. Why was that?

Was it because you don’t have answers? So all you can to is try (and fail) to discredit the questioner with foam and irrelevancies?

Or was it because you feel it your god given right to stick you nose into the life of everyone you don’t agree with?

I will ask again

There is no justification for religion either except for personal choice but that never stopped you – right?
(You never answered that but you proved it to be correct by your actions, it did not stop you)

Does homosexuality effect you in any way?

Do you see homosexuals telling the world that you are wrong?

Now can you say the same for godbots like you?

Waiting

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#71790 Jan 23, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Homosexuality has no positive impact on any culture.
Nor do people who are left-handed.
Or Blonde.

Etc.

Except when the OTHER qualities these individuls possess other than their dexterity, hair color, or sexual identity are not considered.
FREE SERVANT
#71791 Jan 23, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quotedr text>For the Pharaohs.
Why are pyramids all over the world the same shape?
They are alters to the heavens and the priest began to worship the creation rather than the Creator and God confounded them to stop them from learning any more about the universe.

“When you treat people as they ”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#71792 Jan 23, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text>Irony.
You are only saying that based on your frustrations. Try another road, loser.
Sorry, my irony meter went boom listening to you christards

Nope I am only saying that because it’s FACT

Religion is indoctrinated (usually but not always) from birth

Ok honey, what makes you think I am frustrated? Just because I don’t get myself of dreaming of a god does not mean I am frustrated, it means that you life view is severely limited

You cannot deny that a new born does not worship any god and that as the child grows its parents belief (and later other relatives and peers) helps mould that child’s belief system.

You cannot deny that christians worship the first recorded mass murderer and child killer who condoned rape.

Or can you…?

Honey, I am not the one worshipping a genocidal child killer, that would be you… loser

Level 6

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#71793 Jan 23, 2013
anonymous wrote:
Second, the issue of marriage is not victimless. It places a higher tax burden on those in the minority who do not receive tax breaks.
OK, so lets say the tax treatment for married couples is fixed so that its perfectly fair for married and single people.

What difference does it make if some of the married ones are knob/slot, slot/slot, or knob/knob? How does it affect marriage in general?

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Weird Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Two words only please! (Aug '08) 8 min Mr_FX 40,838
Start a sentence in alphabetical order.. 11 min Mr_FX 1,574
El's Kitchen (Feb '09) 21 min Sam 67,105
*add A word / drop a word* (Nov '12) 31 min SweLL GirL 15,210
5 Letter Word, Change 1 Letter (Oct '15) 33 min SweLL GirL 5,317
Tell me a TRUTH (Dec '12) 35 min liam cul8r 1,187
GMGMike's Bar And Grill (Jan '10) 41 min liam cul8r 20,473
What Turns You Off (Jun '11) 1 hr Lucy the First 10,569
All Christmas Carols/Songs and Quotes.. 1 hr Emerald 49
What song are you listening to right now? (Apr '08) 1 hr Lucy the First 206,934
News Trump's bizarre claim that the Clinton email co... 3 hr freedom2016 984
More from around the web