Evolution vs. Creation

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The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70831 Jan 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
what makes no sense is how we existed without an external agent.
To YOU. Your personal incredulity is irrelevant.
Cybele wrote:
Just because you have no proof of God, doesn't mean there is none.
Correct. But your incredulity does not mean there must be one either.
Cybele wrote:
Which is why that makes him more of a God because your little brain can't comprehend it.
Can yours? Well um, actually no. Unless you happen to be the first person on the planet who is able to present a "scientific theory" of creationism.

But since we're talking about an allegedly intelligent entity who creates universes in its spare time, my guess is it would be incomprehensible to any in-universe organism.(shrug)
Cybele wrote:
You don't make a good detective. lol
And you're proposing a culprit before there's even evidence of a crime.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70832 Jan 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
Energy has always existed.
Not necessarily.
Cybele wrote:
It just takes another form - from non-living to living and from living to non-living.
Careful, that may gain you the ire of many a creationist!

:-p
Cybele wrote:
There is no such thing as NOTHING.
Elephants have trunks.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70833 Jan 13, 2013
Thomas Robertson wrote:
Charles Idemi wrote:
What has gay rights got to do with the rights of human beings?
is it because they were negroes?
Who is "they"?
I thought some gays were Black and some were White.
And all are human.

Well, except for these for example:

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/unca...

Which just goes to demonstrate that such behaviour is observed in nature, making it a natural occurrence. Despite the protests of bigoted fundies.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70834 Jan 13, 2013
Charles Idemi wrote:
<quoted text> But the Negroes are not whites either.
Gay rights or perversions?
What then, is the essence of procreation or reproduction?
The KAMA SUTRA!

Okay, well not really, that's just fun.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70835 Jan 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
that's not an answer. You have to describe what constitute God first and foremost.
Actually I always thought that was the job of those who propose that it's scientifically relevant.

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70836 Jan 13, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Why should that concern them? Since there is no more evidence for a "God" than there is of the Cosmic Sheep of dimension Zog. Since the hurdles for scientifically demonstrating both are EXACTLY the same, shouldn't science merely be concerned with how it all came about?
Best only to deal with more specifics only when evidence of those specifics come to light. Hypothesizing is good, but only if it be potentially scientific.
I choose to kind of call it God because the oneness of everything is something that I experience all the time. I experience the parts of a whole and take its entirety as one embodiment. And because this experience is in human form, it's just appropriate to relate to it like any other human would relate to another human. lol.

Why do I even try to explain the unexplicable?

Just like the Grinch who stole christmas "oh the Who-manity!"
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70837 Jan 13, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
You understand that homosexuality is simply one sexual identity from Western culture, right?
You lost him when your words reached double digits.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70838 Jan 13, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
Systems
We still don't care Mikey.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70839 Jan 13, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>Yes brother, and we Christians know that our Creator will never put such a union together and give his blessings. it is a delusion of the flesh and a perversion in the sight of God. God bless you.
Love thy fellow man, Mikey. God commands it!

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70840 Jan 13, 2013
Drew Smith wrote:
How do you *reliably* distinguish between what's "right before you" and a vivid imagination?
<quoted text>
And you know this how?
Try meditation you might experience a heightened awareness and attain higher consciousness. Ya baby! Now pass me the joint!
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70841 Jan 13, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not?
Do you think that procreation only happens within the boundaries of marriage?]
May I ask you a side question?
Do you know what a gene is?


You can thank me later.

:-p
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70842 Jan 13, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
There is only one way to have sex and not sin. The marriage bed is the only place that is not unclean or dirty and defiled in the sight of God.
Which position?

Whoa, wait! Marriage? Screw that!
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70843 Jan 13, 2013
ROCK wrote:
<quoted text>The red object behind the bearded man must be a Roman flag.
Still not caring Mikey.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70844 Jan 13, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
...and you stay out of my discussions! I won't have you co-opting my logic or distracting weasels from putting their image where their mouth is.
Hey, be nice! Chuck's with you on the whole gay thang.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70845 Jan 13, 2013
Drew Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
So you're saying that it's wrong for a married couple to have sex in the back seat of a car? Or in their living room?
Depends on how big they are.(shrug)
anonymous

Franklin, PA

#70846 Jan 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you mention social predators who hold power in this society. Let's see how they are using their tools for their own benefit instead of mankind. Does that empower you? Are you demonizing them because their motives didn't serve your best interest? Perhaps that is your excuse for you to express your own prejudices. You ostracize people that you don't see fit in your imagined utopia. Who is dreaming now? I am not dreaming all the time, mind you. Most of the time I am just AWARE.
That's a bit vague. Of course, I don't endorse predatory behavior. Am I engaging in it, or is my sense of morality misdirected? You can question all you want, but if you don't got anything in the game, does it matter?

I don't think I ostracize but I am willing to point out obviously complicated situations and rudeness masked as "belief" that all gets painted over with sound bites. Would you rather polite platitudes that just bore everyone to death?

This is an anonymous forum. Anyone can choose to advertize their identity or pick something a bit deceptive, or none at all. It doesn't matter to me. As our FBI friends might say; "Just the facts, ma'am." In this environment, opinions can matter too, but it's important to separate the two.

Science and opinion are just not going to get along. Science and belief are far worse together. If you don't like getting caught in the middle, it's important to acknowledge those boundaries or you'll end up speaking in tongues and hoping that others can decode it all. Don't we have enough of THAT around here?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70847 Jan 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
How about if I say God is in all shape, size, and form.
Well I guess that narrows it down!
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70848 Jan 13, 2013
Drew Smith wrote:
I'm not the one claiming that one exists. The person making the claim needs to describe it.
<quoted text>
If I said that blizzblats come in all shapes, sizes, and forms, would you know any more about what a blizzblat *is* than you did before?
How DARE you question the All-Powerful Blizzblat!!!

>:-(
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#70849 Jan 13, 2013
Cybele wrote:
<quoted text>
I choose to kind of call it God because the oneness of everything is something that I experience all the time. I experience the parts of a whole and take its entirety as one embodiment. And because this experience is in human form, it's just appropriate to relate to it like any other human would relate to another human. lol.
Why do I even try to explain the unexplicable?
Beats me.(shrug)

“what we think we become”

Level 5

Since: Aug 11

above and beyond

#70850 Jan 13, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Which position?
Whoa, wait! Marriage? Screw that!
It's more like "Screw who?"

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